I'd keep Kanta and BK. Kanta's versitility has been really handy this season, and at least he puts in. He has been better this year than he has for some time.
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I'd keep Kanta and BK. Kanta's versitility has been really handy this season, and at least he puts in. He has been better this year than he has for some time.
This point doesn't matter at the moment as the FFA won't spend outside the cap, if this changes then my view would change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Premy
At this stage though his wages don't match his contribution, both on the field and being a local lad. Sorry, i just don't rate him at all, i think he is as good as Watson. Plus he gets carded every single game and causes us problems defensively as soon as he goes in the book.
I'm sure he is a top bloke and works his ass off but he is only good enough to be a back-up, and he earns way too much coin to be a backup in our squad.
Closer to once every 4 games though this season he is above 1 in 2. Not quite every game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
No don't let the truth get in the way of a good rant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
What games have you been watching? As stated earlier in the fist half of the season he was all but our best on ground most games, comparing him to Watson is unjust and unfair. How many games has Watson played out of position this season?Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
His still got his best Football ahead of him and if we let him go he'll pick up a contract elsewhere and do a Goodwin, Elrich, Bridge, Brockie, NTS, Abbas, North, Durante, should I keep going?
Personally, I'd say all of them whenever he's not on the bench or omitted from the squadQuote:
Originally Posted by Premy
Oh man.Quote:
Originally Posted by WolfMan
I knew someone would go here with that question but dear lord you phrased it well.
:lulzturtle:Quote:
Originally Posted by WolfMan
My bad, not every game. That said he has accrued the most yellows per minute played than anyone in our squad, so he is does get too many yellow cards. He and Hoffman both need to learn how to defend without constantly fouling players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
I don't rate him as a footballer and i honestly think he brings as much to the team as Watson. He never looked comfortable at centre back and he is nowhere near Leo or Morty as a 10 so he is basically fighting against Poljak and Urga and he is isn't as good as either. Where does everyone think he is going to play every week other than the bench?
So my comment still stands. He earns too much to warm the bench. #SorryNotSorry.
Tend to agree. He is not to the standard of other quality mids in the league. Good bench/squady but for the money needs to be better. Id rather use his money + a bit more get a higher quality mid (prob import).Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
How about this?
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/artic...k-start-career
I'd offload Boogs or Mullen for him, Mullen especially considering he is well over the price we should be paying for himQuote:
Originally Posted by Hunter403
Or play him at DM alongside Ugar and let Poljak go and free up another Foreign spot (or not resign Kanta)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark325
Where does the info on Kantas salary come from? Can't say I have ever seen it in the press. Everyone has a price and if he is overpaid then I agree, but Kanta seems to be picked in the 15 every week so can't see why we wouldn't want to sign him. At worst he is a great option of the bench covering multiple defensive positions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
Borat beat me to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
Where are you getting his Salary figures from? I can't recall it ever being published how much he earns, so with that how do you know his overpaid? Also what do you think he is worth and how much would you offer him?
I vaguely remember that there was a thing up a while ago explaining how much everyone's like for like contracts were at the start of the season, and it came out that Kanta was on 180,000 but I could be wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by Premy
Cahill contract terminated. Don't care how old he is, he'd look good in a Jets shirt
So would MessiQuote:
Originally Posted by Hunter403
If that's the correct figure then yeah it's probably over but IMO not by much probably 40-60k, that said the availability to have his wage/part of his wage not included in the cap also shouldn't be forgotten.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark325
Don't hold me to that figure, this was when the like for likes were done, so around 8 months ago now. Memories hazy but I can't think it was much lowerQuote:
Originally Posted by Premy
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Originally Posted by the camel
What. The. ****.
This was the post I was talking about, a lot different to what I remembered it being. I was a bit off the mark on how much Kanta earnedQuote:
Originally Posted by Premy
Carney = 240k
Boogard = 230k
Ki Jee = 200k
Birighitti = 180k
Kennedy = 130k +
Kantarovski = 130k +
Mullen = 130k +
Alivodic = 130k +
Cooper = 90k
Barresi = 55k - 90k
Pavicevic = 55k - 90k
Brennan = 55k - 90k
Marlow = 55k - 90k
I know this was tongue in cheek but we wont see him in the A-league this season due to him being contracted at another club after transfer deadline.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter403
I don't know if that rule applies to guest players though?
I've no problem having Kanta on that sort of $$$, IMO that is roughly what I thought he is worth. Again for a 23/24 year old that has over 100 A-League caps and has the prime of his Career ahead of him it's a no brianer to re-sign him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark325
Completely agree. There is absolutely no reason for him not to be re-signed. I will be pretty dissappointed if we do lose him, i see him as such a valuable, handy player in our squad. He does a good job in multiple positions, in a league with a salary cap and limited squad numbers, that is worth so much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Premy
All depends on how much the FFA run club want to stock the squad for next season pending a sale. It makes sense to keep Kanta, especially if future owners are going to utilise all salary options, in and out of the cap. Would love to both BK's and shift as much of their salary into the loyalty bucket as possible.
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Originally Posted by Mark325
If that's what he earns than my point about money is off the mark, my bad.
Does that + symbol relate to the loyalty bonuses they are getting? If so, and since he has been here for 6-7 years, how much would that be? If it's 10k per season he's been with the club than that's probably where we all got the $180-200k wages. If he is on less than 150k than i can accept people's reasoning to keep him.
He's still rubbish tho.:deadhorse:
You're not alone in thinking he was on way more, I was thinking the exact same. I don't actually know what the plus represents but I think you're right with it being 10KQuote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
But where does it come from? Because it looks like someone's estimated guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark325
Alivodic would definitely be on more than 130k given where he came from prior to the Jets. The bottom 4 players would be min wage.
Other than Carney, Boogs and Ki Jee there hasn't been a lot of press speculation on salaries to go by.
This was put up a while ago by toohey, its the only thing I can assume people are going off of cause there is no other information on salaries.Quote:
Originally Posted by borat
Firstly the FFA will bend the rules to get this bloke in the HAL regardless of what club wants him as he is a draw card point blank and will generate publicity point blankQuote:
Originally Posted by leftrightout
Secondly if Sydney FC want him their will be a new rule created so they can have him
Thirdly this will negate any of the points you made about him being signed after the deadline
The "Sydney club marquee marquee" rule will be used.
He's dead to me if he signs with the Smurfs. It would make more sense for him to come to Newcastle which will increase the crowds to capacity and force potential owners to want to own the Newcastle Jets.
Sydney FC have the worst support per capita in the league.
There's no way he comes back unless it's to a new franchise, IMO. The damage he could do to the Cahill image would be massive, especially if he signed for one of the Sydney/Melbourne clubs, alienating himself from opposition supporters.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
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Totally stolen from Twitter
The only reason Cahill should come back is to run the league at board level.
You listen to the bloke he has a big picture view of it all and it's not to be playing for relative peanuts being bossed around by the likes of Middleby and some owners kid.
^^^^
Below is a quote from Cahill straight from his biography. He is clearly interested in being involved with an A League, even owning one but like he says the timing and the conditions have to be right.
"I definitely plan to return to Australia, but only when the time and conditions are right. I can see myself OWNING an A-League club in the future. But I'd have to do it on my terms, make sure I could do it according to a long-range vision: that I'd have control right across the board ......If I do have the opportunity to run an A-League club, it would have to be from the grassroots level up to the top professionals, the way I learned it in England"
Top three sound right but according to a Herald journo Mullen and BK are up there, in the 2nd tier of players more so in the $150-170k bracket....thanks to Stubbsy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark325
Yeah I was of the belief BK and Mullen were way up thereQuote:
Originally Posted by stopper2
Alright then, that's exactly the point from the man himself. Cases closed anyone thinking he's coming back here to do a guest stint and get a token 10% stake in some shitty club like the Jets.Quote:
Originally Posted by stopper2
Also: when he was close to signing with NY, he went to the commissioner of the whole league to get the run down on how the clubs are run and whether the owners were legit. Only after he was satisfied did he sign to play. That's a bloke who looks a hell of a lot wider than his next pay check.
Bloke will be the smartest in that FFA room and sadly incumbents prob won't like that one bit and prevent it happening.