That's because you aren't woke enough Dunster.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
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That's because you aren't woke enough Dunster.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
You slippin? you said you wanted russia to nukem so i think refering to Russia is warranted. Its cool to blame the US for everything and they do have alot to answer dgmw but the middle east is the worlds cvnt pit right now. Africa (pick a kuntry) not so far behind.Quote:
Originally Posted by parksey
Q. what do you think of returned soldiers?
only because of the no wanking thing. i don't hate the us for its interventionism.Quote:
Originally Posted by hawk
as for what i'd do, plague. i'm hardly an expert in warfare and don't know all the avenues available to him. obviously something had to be done, just as it has for years now. to me it seemed hamfisted, but maybe that's just because of my perception of him.
The middle east / Africa things been going on in one form or another for over a 1000 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by hawk
Returned soldiers ? Pick a war.
WW1 were conscripted - no choice in the matter
WW2 fought a genuine threat,
Korea - debateable. - but given the situation and all someone had to help them - much like we were helped ten years earlier
Vietnam - Access to cheap home loans was the main carrot dangled to the Aussie soldiers - many of whom really didn't know what they were getting into. Soldiers can't be blamed for lying governments / Corporations
Iraq - Sometimes you have to back your mates even when you know they are wrong.
Dgmw I hate wars but I'd hate to think where we would be today if a few hundred thousand yanks didn't risk / lose their lives restoring order in the Pacific 70 odd years ago.
We were well within the cross hairs of the Japanese and without the Yanks we would have been wiped out pretty quickly.
Me too.
Is their a correlation between age, young/old peoples feelings/thoughts about war and returned diggers? Do you need to be over 30 to properly gauge what is best for world combat politics? Yeah the Yanks are annoying and war chasers but i still wonder why they cop worse abuse than the dictators in many countries killing anyone at will. cool factor for mine.
Did the youth revolution undeservedly stick it to the Viet vets? I probs would have join in the protests at 18 but not at 30.
ICBF doing a study past 5 people.
The People's Champ Hinchy telling it how it is
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-1...-right/8433498
The article is garbage. It assumes the government has a budget constraint which determines its fiscal ability to pay pensions. There is no financial constraint on governments to pay pensions. None what so ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
Hang on. A dream home is owning something grand or in a top spot. home ownership shouldnt be a dream or a right. Hard work and toil should gain a home if wanted.
If interest rates go up housing will become more affordable at least from the purchase price perspective. Clamping down on foriegn ownership would help too.
It's hard but a lot of people don't realise that they need to go without a few perks to make it a reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by hawk
Nothing wrong with starting small - a house is a house. It's for providing shelter - it's not about status or prestige.
There is no significant relationship between interest rates and investment. The relationship between income and investment is much stronger / predictable.
As long as incomes are rising so to will housing prices.
The issue is that not everyone's incomes are rising.
Agree about the Foreign ownership - it's out of control.
Hey Dunster if you want a perfect real world example of labor prices falling behind cost of living come to Hong Kong.
Min wage = $5.60 hr
Cheapest (new) apartment we could find was about $400k and that was about a 45min train ride from the main drag. Which for a place the size of HK would be like commuting from Burke to work in Sydney.
The govt introduced an 'affordable housing' scheme to give locals first shot at those apartments and 79,000 applications were made for the 2,000 units offered.
Public transport and food/beer is dirt cheap.
The economy is set up so you can have the basics (rent/food/transport). But the cashed up Chinese flooding in from the mainland have decided that you can have nothing more.
It's quite amazing to see the disparity in 'classes'.
And everyone just shrugging their shoulders about trying to make it better.
just follow my HK tips and you'll be rich plagueos
errr, happy Jesus death day. You all love it
It's an easy fix. Just give tax cuts to the cashed up Chinese coming in and take away penalty rates from the poorest workers. At least that's what Malcolm Turnbull would do.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
Jokes aside - yes HK has some problems - they have fora long time. Not a lot of land for six million people which makes things difficult enough due to excess demand. Then like you said you add in cashed up Chinese and it's even worse.
I have worked with a few Chinese academics over the years and their stories about China and HK are horrifying.
Imagine just finishing your Phd at 22 years of age and getting a knock at the door from armed officers to take you to your new government assignment.
The assignment was that the government put your academic career on hold and made you work on a farm for 12 years.
Why ? Because they can and needed to make examples for the greater public that no matter how hard you work or how intelligent you are you the government controls your life.
In 1997 after 12 years my friend was released. He made a dash to HK - spent about 6 months there and said it was pretty much going the same way so he came to Australia with practically nothing and started a new life.
He's still here working and you wouldn't meet a nicer person. Just don't call him Chinese. He's an Australian and absolutely hates China and everything about it.
Looks like what he feared about HK is well and truly in motion.
Plague Jnr wasn't allowed to go to Happy Valley so pulled the pin. Terrible example set by the HK govt not letting the kiddies get a taste for the track.Quote:
Originally Posted by q-money
No wonder the world is going to Hell.
currently on da front lines of history here in Seoul, is your mate Big Don gonna pull the trigger tomorrow? My flight's at 8pm Saturday :rof:
I'd have no problems with Big Don levelling Korea. Khunt of a country North or South. I used to deal with Koreans on a daily basis at work and you couldn't find a more corrupt / morally bankrupt group of people if you tried.Quote:
Originally Posted by q-money
I'm currently at war with LG over my OLED TV failing after 10 months - and while I'm guaranteed to win legal proceedings someone with less time and money than I have would pretty much be screwed and left with $8000 of TV with a vertical line on the screen.
I'm heading to Japan now to help hold the fort.Quote:
Originally Posted by q-money
With Trump on our side how could things go wrong.
Covfefe to you all this evening.
Trump is the best.Quote:
Originally Posted by steve136
More magic from President Trump today.
#MAGA
With the impending economic slowdown the US will probably meet the emissions target by default anyway. I really have no issue with Trump not wanting to be a part of this token / pseudo Global Warming campaign. Reducing emissions is important but these pacts are not worth the paper they are printed on. All smoke and mirrors much like the gay marriage debate which is again taking peoples focus from what really matters - income distribution and jobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
and the fact all this came as yet another Hillary meltdown went public he's just trolling for fun now.
Hillary was offering the US people more of the same - rising costs of living, falling real wages, and mass unemployment. She effectively went to the polls without any policies much the same as Obahma did before her but most people had woken up by now. Trump might be a goose but he at least showed up with a slogan / plan and a list of policies he believed would help make America great again.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
Credit to Hillary though for helping people decide early why Trump deserves a 2nd term in office.
I take it India is allowed to quadruple coal burning and emissions cause they currently have fkall?
Even if they arent sure about environmental effect emissions need to be lowered each yr by every kuntry.
Will trump get overthrown after his first term? Doesnt happen that often
I just don't see why the world is gonna end just because the U.S and A backed out of a pretend deal.
Surely the rest of the world if they are all good un-Trump like countries will get the temperature down and stop the sea levels from consuming one of Hawks mansions.
What am I missing here?
The main component I believe is that the US will not deliver the $2 billion that remains of its $3 billion pledge to finance international climate efforts.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
I'm tired of economically ignorant old men making decisions like Trump is on climate change though. Industries currently developing renewable energy solutions are growing at 17 times that of the economy. You'd think the lazy old fools in petroleum and coal would listen-up and get with the program. But you know how it goes: If their money is good, which it is right now, they won't change to address the future of their industry's economic prospects until the very last minute. Just ask anyone who remembers the 1987-89 oil crash.
So the world is cranky at the US and A for not giving them welfare.Quote:
Originally Posted by steve136
Sounds like a typical university demo.
Good on Trump for not caving.
Yeah, I'll absolutely admit, you've got to give it to him for being his own man.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
His Secretary of State told him not to do it. The military told him not to do it. 69 Fortune 500 companies told him not to do it. Exxon, BP, Chevron, Mobil and ConocoPhillips told him not to do it. Their Allies in the European Union told him not to do it. The majority of the citizens of the United States told him not to do it. He did it anyways.
Ok has anyone done the science on the difference between America sticking to the agreement vs America not sticking to the agreement?Quote:
Originally Posted by steve136
I'd love to see some facts because the reaction has been along the lines of the world being doomed based on that decision.
I'd like to see the 'real' impact.
Also, if you listened to his whole speech he actually is in favour of making the world a better place he just believes America is unfairly disadvantaged. Because it isn't one rule for all, and he believes America can get a better deal.
He campaigned on it, he believes in it.
You sure about that?Quote:
Originally Posted by steve136
Yes. Approximately 69 per cent of voters.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
86% of democrats supported it and 51% of republicans according to a Yale poll recently.
Pretty naive of him to think he could get a "deal" on a multilateral agreement involving 195 countries. I don't care what he believes - isn't it amazing the extremist right manages to turn the 1-2% uncertainty about the data concerning climate change and argue like that uncertainty is 100%?Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
how it eventually impacts on trump's tech-bro libertarian mates (i.e. thiel, musk etc who have already walked) will be interesting. energy security has always been a huge bugbear for the US, hence trumps genuflection to the saudis again. i'm not all over it but is part of this pullout more investment into local extraction (sand/shale oil, offshore exploration). what happens to the vast sums of venture capital that has been poured into california for alternative energy. does this now get redirected into exploration and extraction in the domestic USA?
"i don't know anything about it but i reckon it could be a good move" - plague on every trump decision.
Imagine the outrage if Merrick said something that Trump believed. Like that we weren't going to do fitness training at all because it would drain the body's "finite" energy resources. He thinks the human body is like a battery which exercise depletes. :rof:
"I'm the bloke confusing Trumps point on the science vs Trumps point on the Paris agreement" - Parksey.Quote:
Originally Posted by parksey
But it's not the same deal for everyone is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by steve136
That's 'seems' to be Trumps point.
I don't agree with Trumps position on the science.
I have no problem if be believes the agreement disadvantages the people who he's in charge of governing.
Hopefully that makes my point a bit clearer.
cc: Parksey
This is an old issue that even Sir William Petty alluded to in the 17th Century [Service / information economies]. Most developed nations have already moved on from their manufacturing / industrial stage of their economic life-cycle - and risen to information / technology / financial services provision instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
However, the developing nations are still at the industrial / manufacturing stage of their economic life cycle. If their development at this stage is restricted then it will possibly limit how far they can progress as a services / technology / information economy.
Overall, these global warming policies are more about keeping the most powerful nations at the top of the pyramid and not allowing developing nations to rise above them.
In other words, these restrictions do far more economic damage to developing nations than they do to countries like the USA.
With respect to the USA funding everything that's simply the banking sector looking for more free money to line their pockets with.
When the US donates US dollars it props up their own economy because US products and services are denominated in US dollars.
The Marshall Plan was probably the biggest con of the 20th Century where not only did the US look like the saviours of Europe they essentially lined their own pockets without anyone in Europe being the wiser to what was actually happening. They effectively made the US dollar a vehicle currency for the entire planet.