SQUAD FOR 2015/16 SEASON - no Griff, no party

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Originally Posted by GazFish35

Eland made a point I've not ever thought of tbh.

Pushing 4 players outside the cap (marquee x2, homegrown x2) means other teams have the whole cap the attract 19 players.

If you don't use the "outside the cap" concessions you're trying to attract all 23 with the cap.

I'm not sure why that's never dawned on me.

Kanta and BK are well worth keeping for that fact alone. More money to spend on the rest of the squad.

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Welcome. This is why the FFA haven't assisted us at all.

its 24K per player difference

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Originally Posted by GazFish35

its 24K per player difference

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Or TWO whole new David Carneys!!!!!

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Originally Posted by plague

1. Janjetovic - league min (is it 55k?). Terrible keeper, can't catch, pass or organise. Comes to training sober though, so gets a run.
2. Seb ryall - technically in custody so can't receive income. League min so it goes into a trust account to fund schoolies trips till he turns 45.
4. Zac anderson - gypo, has no idea what 'wages' or 'employment' are. Gets fortnightly centrelink cheque for $479.80.
5. Mat jurman - league min, although his twin brother "matt yerrrrrrman" is somehow turning up for half his shifts lately.
6. Stambozliev - no wages, not a real person. Is actually a marketing ploy for a new brand of cheap russian vodka. Seb ryall hosts stambozliev vodka parties for 14 year olds on the gold coast.
7. A hoole - league min, but its gets paid into his account so he's exponentially more wealthy than he was when at the jets.
8. Dimitrejavic - gets around league salary rules by being paid in food vouchers. Currently over his own personal 'cap space'.
9. Shane smeltz - $150k, but in nz dollars, so its about $60k (this joke was totally better about 8 years ago).
10. Ninkovic - wait? Aren't he and dimitrejavic the same person? Sydney uses them under same contract. $200k between them.
11. C. Naumoff - $80k he played good one game, only 4 years and 3 knee surgeries away from being offered a max deal by the jets.
12. J. Tratt? - the **** is that guy? League min.
13. B. Oneill - the only oneill not making a living out of tyres or wetsuits. Poor career choice. League min.
14. A brosque - $100,000 per 90mins played. Season wages so far = $30k.
16. R. Woodcock - isn't he a cricketer? League min.
17. D.carney - hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha hahhahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahah
18. M. Simon - legally entitled to half of arnies salary and super due them officially being declared a defacto couple.
19. J. Faty - he's french, so he's obviously on the run from something in his homeland. League min on the proviso sydney fc don't tell anyone where he lives.
20. I.necevski - league min, but paid as a coach so no impact on the cap.
21. F.holosko - league min. Plays for a country that now doesn't technically exist. Bummer man.
22. A.abbas - league min. Still love him. If only former jets management weren't all haterz.
23. R.grant - his contract states he gets whatever marc warren earns + $1 to formalise his position as only the 2nd worst player in the league.
24. George blackwood - sounds like a politician from the early 1900's. I wouldn't vote for him. **** that guy.
25. A.calver - ? Again, who the ****? League min.
27. M.tavares - $200k lord knows what for. Garbage.and french. So double garbage.
29. A.mullen - doesn't he play for the knights? George blackwood refuses to bring his dog to training or social gatherings. League min.
30. A bouzanis - somehow isn't better than the other 2 retards in goals. Shouldn't be getting anything if he's that bad. Has def used the "my brother played premier league" approach to pick up chicks.


So as you can see sydney have heaps of room under the cap. Bring tommy home.

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gold, gold, gold!

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Originally Posted by GazFish35

Eland made a point I've not ever thought of tbh.

Pushing 4 players outside the cap (marquee x2, homegrown x2) means other teams have the whole cap the attract 19 players.

If you don't use the "outside the cap" concessions you're trying to attract all 23 with the cap.

I'm not sure why that's never dawned on me.

Kanta and BK are well worth keeping for that fact alone. More money to spend on the rest of the squad.

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We only have the minimum 20 players though and not 23. So not that much of a difference

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Originally Posted by Jeterpool

Welcome. This is why the FFA haven't assisted us at all.

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seems to always come back to this. could be a sign. anyone? bueller?

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Originally Posted by plague

Or TWO whole new David Carneys!!!!!

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But we dont want 2 new sooky little b*tches.....

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Originally Posted by borat

We only have the minimum 20 players though and not 23. So not that much of a difference

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Point is the flexibility it gives you to spend more on less players, allowing you attract better standard players.

So we could have a 10 man squad even before we sign a player that has to fit under the cap...
- marquee = 2
- guest player = 1
- mature age rookie (>21 yo) = 1 player
- home grown (<23yo, $150k) = 3 (min wage = $41K)
- contracted NYL player = 3

Then a few half price players:
- loyalty allocation (5+ seasons, $200K) = 3 (min wage = $55K) (max 50% of players wage is excluded)

So 13 players and we've only used ~$100K of the salary cap...

This leaves $2.5M left for the remaining 7 squad positions (~$350K / player).

*Is the junior marquee still a thing?

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Originally Posted by Guerny

So we could have a 10 man squad even before we sign a player that has to fit under the cap...
- marquee = 2
- guest player = 1
- mature age rookie (>21 yo) = 1 player
- home grown (<23yo, $150k) = 3 (min wage = $41K)
- contracted NYL player = 3

Then a few half price players:
- loyalty allocation (5+ seasons, $200K) = 3 (min wage = $55K) (max 50% of players wage is excluded)

So 13 players and we've only used ~$100K of the salary cap...

This leaves $2.5M left for the remaining 7 squad positions (~$350K / player).

*Is the junior marquee still a thing?

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That's why the big clubs who make full use of these "concessions" if you like, seem on the surface to be well over the cap. I think David Lowe mentioned in his column once that clubs like Victory and SFC have about 6 players in that top bracket before we even get to our highest paid player.
Used to have a U/23 Marquee but I'm pretty sure they got rid of that a few years ago now.

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Originally Posted by Guerny

So we could have a 10 man squad even before we sign a player that has to fit under the cap...
- marquee = 2
- guest player = 1
- mature age rookie (>21 yo) = 1 player
- home grown (<23yo, $150k) = 3 (min wage = $41K)
- contracted NYL player = 3

Then a few half price players:
- loyalty allocation (5+ seasons, $200K) = 3 (min wage = $55K) (max 50% of players wage is excluded)

So 13 players and we've only used ~$100K of the salary cap...

This leaves $2.5M left for the remaining 7 squad positions (~$350K / player).

*Is the junior marquee still a thing?

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Pretty sure Junior marquee was scrapped for the home grown U23 player.

As of right now do we have any home growns/loyalty allocations I'm not thinking of


We'd have both BK's for the loyalty allocation, and we'd have Nick Cowburn and Radovan as home grown would we not?

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Originally Posted by Mark325

As of right now do we have any home growns/loyalty allocations I'm not thinking of


We'd have both BK's for the loyalty allocation, and we'd have Nick Cowburn and Radovan as home grown would we not?

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Just Kanta and BK

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Originally Posted by RAM

Just Kanta and BK

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How does home grown work then?

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Originally Posted by Mark325

How does home grown work then?

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· The existing Home Grown Player allowance outside the Salary Cap has lifted from $150,000 to $200,000. Each Club can include three players who started their careers with the Club, either through the Youth System of the Hyundai A-League squad.

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/...j1vyywqy5lcn3g

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Originally Posted by Mark325

How does home grown work then?

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I think the others are counted as youth, although I thought Cowburn got a senior contract.

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Originally Posted by RAM

I think the others are counted as youth, although I thought Cowburn got a senior contract.

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Isn't the point that we aren't spending any money outside the salary cap so they can be eligible for youth/loyalty/marquee or whatever, but FFA is keeping it lean hence the last two pages of discussion?

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Originally Posted by Grimario

Isn't the point that we aren't spending any money outside the salary cap so they can be eligible for youth/loyalty/marquee or whatever, but FFA is keeping it lean hence the last two pages of discussion?

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yep

Or more likely the FFA is not using any of the cap exemptions so they can put their hands on their hearts and say they were ensuring the Jets remained competitive by using 90% of the available salary cap... :wanker:

Whats everyones feeling for season 2016-17 in terms of recruitment?
Which imports should we resign?

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Originally Posted by riverboy

Whats everyones feeling for season 2016-17 in terms of recruitment?
Which imports should we resign?

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If we win the league all of them..

If not, FOLD THE CLUB!

Nord
Trifunovic

Maybe leo

Alivodic needs to score a few goals between now and end of season. Otherwise no.

Poljak is here for next season but would sign him for longer.

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Originally Posted by rhysd

Nord
Trifunovic

Maybe leo

Alivodic needs to score a few goals between now and end of season. Otherwise no.

Poljak is here for next season but would sign him for longer.

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I agree.
I would keep nords and trifunovic.

Unsure on leo, he has class but injury concerns and his age are a worry.

Alivodic as harsh as it appears would probably have to go. Not enough goals or assists.

Need to resign biraz and Hoffman. But biraz may leave overseas on a free.

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Originally Posted by riverboy

Whats everyones feeling for season 2016-17 in terms of recruitment?
Which imports should we resign?

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lets come back to this at the end of the season

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Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET

lets come back to this at the end of the season

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That sounds pretty smart. Wait til the end of the year and risk losing any good players for nothing or resign them at a higher rate. Good call

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Originally Posted by riverboy

That sounds pretty smart. Wait til the end of the year and risk losing any good players for nothing or resign them at a higher rate. Good call

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I think he means us discussing on the forum, not the club attempting recruitment.

A potential new owner makes it had to realistically discuss now. I mean if the New owner wants to spend the whole cap, concessions and marquees then I wouldn't be keeping any of triffo, Leonardo or enver. I'd also be thinking of better Aussies than we have, James holland etc.

send em back, send em back

If we did get new owners I would definitely shift some shit around in a big way. I personally would still keep Triffo and Leo on board, if Trif ends off scoring over 10 goals come season end then he's worth retaining, and Leonardo with a full off-season is definitely worth retaining. What would change is that I would cull 2 players who's contracts aren't over, but that I feel we could get better value out of there positions

So, the empty spots in my team would be either a winger/attacking mid depending on how you wanna use Leo, a midfield spot as I would remove Poljak, a LB spot and a spot at CB cause I'd get rid of Daniel Mullen. I would move both BK's to outside the cap, re-sign Birraz, Hoff and Lundy as well. Make Nobby a marquee, sign James Holland as a marquee in the midfield. Look overseas to a foreign LB, which puts us at 4 foreigners, sign Clut from Roar and then sign Rhys Williams as the CB replacement.

So, our team would look like this:

Birraz
Foreign LB - Boogard - Williams - Hoff
Holland - Uga
Leo - Clut - Nobby
Triffo

Bench: Haliti, Cooper, Kanta, Cowburn, BK

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Originally Posted by Mark325

If we did get new owners I would definitely shift some shit around in a big way. I personally would still keep Triffo and Leo on board, if Trif ends off scoring over 10 goals come season end then he's worth retaining, and Leonardo with a full off-season is definitely worth retaining. What would change is that I would cull 2 players who's contracts aren't over, but that I feel we could get better value out of there positions

So, the empty spots in my team would be either a winger/attacking mid depending on how you wanna use Leo, a midfield spot as I would remove Poljak, a LB spot and a spot at CB cause I'd get rid of Daniel Mullen. I would move both BK's to outside the cap, re-sign Birraz, Hoff and Lundy as well. Make Nobby a marquee, sign James Holland as a marquee in the midfield. Look overseas to a foreign LB, which puts us at 4 foreigners, sign Clut from Roar and then sign Rhys Williams as the CB replacement.

So, our team would look like this:

Birraz
Foreign LB - Boogard - Williams - Hoff
Holland - Uga
Leo - Clut - Nobby
Triffo

Bench: Haliti, Cooper, Kanta, Cowburn, BK

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That's got 7th written all over it.
Nobby worth keeping but still within cap. I like where your heading with the Aussies. As I said, if we got a decent owner, triffo and Leo gone.

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Originally Posted by Tommyjet

That's got 7th written all over it.
Nobby worth keeping but still within cap. I like where your heading with the Aussies. As I said, if we got a decent owner, triffo and Leo gone.

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So essentially, what you'd change is that Nobby stays under the cap, and you'd sign two different foreigners at the left wing and striker position, with one of them or the LB being the marquee instead

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Originally Posted by Mark325

So essentially, what you'd change is that Nobby stays under the cap, and you'd sign two different foreigners at the left wing and striker position, with one of them or the LB being the marquee instead

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I'd explore the option of removing poljak. Ideally someone like holland, possibly Rhys Williams replacing him.
Plenty of left backs getting around the league that are stuck behind more established ones that we could tap into.
Marquee spots to be used in the attacking 4

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Originally Posted by Tommyjet

I'd explore the option of removing poljak. Ideally someone like holland, possibly Rhys Williams replacing him.
Plenty of left backs getting around the league that are stuck behind more established ones that we could tap into.
Marquee spots to be used in the attacking 4

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For me I'd even accept someone like Steven Lustica as a better starting midfielder then Poljak

What LB from other teams would you try poaching?

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Originally Posted by Mark325

For me I'd even accept someone like Steven Lustica as a better starting midfielder then Poljak

What LB from other teams would you try poaching?

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Ben Garrucio

sack everyone.
sign Griff.
the rest will take care of itself.

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Originally Posted by Jeterpool

Ben Garrucio

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I wouldn't say he's the best available, Cowburn is probably as good as he is in that position

No way should we keep Trifunovic around. The guy is absolutely rubbish with the ball at his feet, cannot hold it up to save his life and shows zero composure. He doesn't run hard, is too slow to get in behind the lines and contributes zero when defending.

But he's scored nine goals?

Let's look at how he scored those. Penalty, tap in from 1 yard (that he hit the keeper on), a couple of good headers, penalty, header, penalty, one on one with the keeper that the keeper got a good hand on, penalty.

It's important to note that he created a grand total of ZERO of those penalties himself.

So basically, on three occasions across the entire season he's showed a good ability on the air. Is this really what we want out of our import striker?

It's impossible to count how many chances he's absolutely butchered, although there's been a good number of one on ones where he's either been caught from behind because he's hesitating, or has just plain fluffed it.

Actually, the more I think about it, the more suited to the Jets he is. Make him marquee.

Also, Alivodić no longer looks like a a guy that's played football before.

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Originally Posted by steve136

No way should we keep Trifunovic around. The guy is absolutely rubbish with the ball at his feet, cannot hold it up to save his life and shows zero composure. He doesn't run hard, is too slow to get in behind the lines and contributes zero when defending.

But he's scored nine goals?

Let's look at how he scored those. Penalty, tap in from 1 yard (that he hit the keeper on), a couple of good headers, penalty, header, penalty, one on one with the keeper that the keeper got a good hand on, penalty.

It's important to note that he created a grand total of ZERO of those penalties himself.

So basically, on three occasions across the entire season he's showed a good ability on the air. Is this really what we want out of our import striker?

It's impossible to count how many chances he's absolutely butchered, although there's been a good number of one on ones where he's either been caught from behind because he's hesitating, or has just plain fluffed it.

Actually, the more I think about it, the more suited to the Jets he is. Make him marquee.

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I'll pay all that honestly, didn't think about those goals till after and sorta realised that from a strikers perspective his goals aren't quite what you'd want.

And watching this game he isn't the best footballer, I'll stick by Leo being good though

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Originally Posted by Jeterpool

Ben Garrucio

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Yeah garrucio, murnane, Galloway from victory