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Do you not understand how the salary cap works? Even if we get rid of him, he is still "on the books". It's not like he's someone useful that another club would happily pick up so we can come to a mutual agreement without impact.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
I read last year, and was also mentioned on I think a FoxSports podcast, that "paying a player out" wasn't included in the salary cap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
It definitely is. Otherwise clubs could just bin off players whenever they wanted. What's the point in a salary cap?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
Where did I blame current management?Quote:
Originally Posted by halo se7en
By doing it in the offseason you can offset the salary in the following season/s....or something like that. Doesn't matter anyway while we can free up plenty of salary whenever we need it by shifting players to marquee.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
That's not right. We could pay Brennan the remainder of his contract right now and release him, freeing up a squad place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
Only limitation is managing your salary cap.
Member was right
The PFA could clarify this, surely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
The money is still "on the books" you goose. That's my point. If we have done our usual thing of overpaying players and have **** all left in the cap, having his $55k on the books means we don't have $55k of space to pay someone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by borat
Have asked them and the FFA. I remember there was something in an article maybe last year about them definitely being part of the salary cap and it was something to do with WSW when they were trying to force Mullen and Saba out by making them train alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
its definitely in the cap, it's just clubs have the ability to push that back to the following seasons cap to make it easier to manage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
Regardless, I doubt we are using the full cap and allowances anyway. 200k home grown player allowance + 200k loyalty player allowance + 80k salary cap banking for Carney + whatever we were under the cap last year in Salary Cap banking. Then 2 spare marquee positions. It's only the owner not coughing up what is a meagre amount.
Show me any where the member said the money wasn't included in the cap???Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
So your "point" is that money spent is included in the salary cap........thanks for that. The world is a more knowledgeable place.
Well we have plenty of salary cap to spend, it's only an arbitrary budget placed upon the team by the owner that is holding us back. If we were somehow short 55k, which I doubt, you move Nordstrand or Kokko to marquee.
Can't beleive you are forcing me to defend the member either.....I feel dirty
Do we have any player that would satisfy the FFA's ever-changing criteria for a marquee though?Quote:
Originally Posted by borat
And we'd be better off moving our more expensive players outside the cap. Nobby and Kokko are not the highest paid, as far as I'm aware.
Ben Kennedy is on $650k a season + bonuses.:gent:Quote:
Originally Posted by WolfMan
The only player that need's FFA approval now for Marquee is the 3rd "GuEST pLAYER" Timmy Cahill rule. The other two are basically just 'designated players' does not matter who it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by WolfMan
You didn't blame current management but you made a comment about how we shouldn't stupidly sign 55k players to 2 year contracts, which was a daft comment since current management had 0 to do with the decision to sign Brennan to a 2yr contract in the first place. Basically they're left to deal with a situation created before they arrived.Quote:
Originally Posted by borat
They should scrap the limit on foreign players and remove the salary cap. Because things at the Youth and Olympic level can't get any worse, and the national team itself is reliant upon a few ageing stars with pretty much nobody capable of filling the void when they retire.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Camel
Regulation has it's place but in this situation it's hard to justify.
And what do you say of our current management signing players, such as Hoole/Nabbout/Clut, then leaving themselves without the squad places available for an u20 & Visa? Maybe they just can't count hey.Quote:
Originally Posted by halo se7en
Is that the fault of past management or did they not know Brennan was signed for two years?
My point about signing Brennan for 2 years was that all clubs change coaches, CEO's and occasionally owners. Dealing with past decisions is common place, as is cutting unwanted players signed by previous managers/admin. If it's so vital to the success of the club to sign player x, when you don't have a squad position, you find a way to get it done. Our opposition seem to have no problems doing so.
Was just an example, although is a bit sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by WolfMan
Boogs I am guessing.
As i said it is the club who are responsible for him still being currently taking up one of our squad spots and they are the ones responsible for him still being hereQuote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
Whether they have to pay out his salary or not is irrelevant. They dont want him yet are doing nothing to change that. The choice to pay him out and free up a squad spot is there
They choose not to take it so despite Stubbins being responsible for signing him for 2 years it is Millertime whom is ALLOWING him to stay here for the second year collect his cash and take up a squad spot where the club could pay him out and free up a squad spot to use
Yeah, righto. Clearly Miller is the guy that holds the purse strings and permits spending outside the cap.
This place, ffs.