VAR - It's Football But Not As You Know It

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Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung

We would be here today complaining about how there was an offside in the buildup
to a goal we Conceded.

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This used to be my thought process as well but last week was a good example to change my mind.

It was mentioned on here (maybe in 3 comments?) that a Perth player was offside in the lead up to Perth’s first goal.

It didn’t even stir much of a discussion (from the fans who were ‘wronged’) and I didn’t give 2 shits about it and don’t even go back and look to see if it was true.

I just kind of thought ‘oh well we copped a bad decision’ and moved on.

I think there’s a lot of fans who think the same way.


To be fair though I’d it was a ‘big’ team that copped the bad call the media would have run with it.

4 minutes to decide the second penalty.

only 3 minutes additional time, despite two injuries as well.

go figure.

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Originally Posted by belchardo

4 minutes to decide the second penalty.

only 3 minutes additional time, despite two injuries as well.

go figure.

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Time off for VAR is essential

So far what are Sydney with VAR calls 100% in their favour??

Aren't they also the team benefitiing the most in just sheer volume ???

FFA and their bias towards them is becoming a joke really


VAR is sky blue

Stick your VAR love Bozza...this is not improving things and "teething troubles" is no excuse after 6 months.
Players and fans screaming for video reviews...VAR delays when there is no reason to review...this is just f****** up the game.

Quick question:
Hypothetically, let’s say the referee didn’t blow his whistle a split second before Nabbout scored the offside goal. Linesman raised flag, Nabbout scores, ref blows whistle for offside.
Can that be reviewed?
I read a Q and A with Howard Webb about the MLS VAR and he basically said that players must play to the whistle and not the flag. Which has been the way for years. But I think it’s an interesting the way VAR has changed the way the game is played. In the above scenario. If it was reviewed and deemed he was onside, the goal would be awarded.

For those watching at home, was anything reviewed in our game?

What if he is flagged for offside and the whistle goes, he continues anyway (like Ali Abbas probably could have done last week), scores and then gets booked for not stopping for the whistle. Replay shows he was onside?

So many permutations yet to come under the VAR microscope but again just shows that it cannot be foolproof.

The simple question is has this reduced the controversies - no, it has increased them. All we need is a seriously dodgy one to go against the Smurfs and like Kossie said "we can throw it in the bin". I did note last night that Bozza did not respond to that comment.

Irony is though why weren't they booked though ??

Is it any different than King Vuj getting booked yesterday for playing the pass after giving a hand ball up??

All he did was kick the ball away there and Beath carded him

Technically he was playing the whistle etc

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Originally Posted by Jetmaster

What if he is flagged for offside and the whistle goes, he continues anyway (like Ali Abbas probably could have done last week), scores and then gets booked for not stopping for the whistle. Replay shows he was onside?

So many permutations yet to come under the VAR microscope but again just shows that it cannot be foolproof.

The simple question is has this reduced the controversies - no, it has increased them. All we need is a seriously dodgy one to go against the Smurfs and like Kossie said "we can throw it in the bin". I did note last night that Bozza did not respond to that comment.

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I looked up the rules for VAR in A league games:

https://www.myfootball.com.au/news/h...-you-need-know

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WHAT CAN THE VAR RULE ON?

The VAR can rule on four different categories of "key match incidents"…

Goals

Did the ball cross the line, was there a foul or an offside missed in the build-up to the goal or did the ball go out of play in the build-up?

Penalty incidents

Was a foul committed inside or outside the penalty area, has a penalty been missed or has one been wrongly awarded?

Direct red cards

Was a potential send-off missed or was a red card wrongly issued?

Mistaken identity

Was a yellow or red card awarded to the wrong player?

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Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung

Quick question:
Hypothetically, let’s say the referee didn’t blow his whistle a split second before Nabbout scored the offside goal. Linesman raised flag, Nabbout scores, ref blows whistle for offside.
Can that be reviewed?
I read a Q and A with Howard Webb about the MLS VAR and he basically said that players must play to the whistle and not the flag. Which has been the way for years. But I think it’s an interesting the way VAR has changed the way the game is played. In the above scenario. If it was reviewed and deemed he was onside, the goal would be awarded.

For those watching at home, was anything reviewed in our game?

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yeah, there was a challenge by herd on nabbout i think that got reviewed, even though the ref had a clear line of sight and was only a few metres away.

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Originally Posted by belchardo

yeah, there was a challenge by herd on nabbout i think that got reviewed, even though the ref had a clear line of sight and was only a few metres away.

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Welcome to the NRL where the Refs are right in front but go to the video because then if its the wrong call well its the video refs fault not mine.

...or like in cricket when 1 or 2 umpires were openly criticised for giving runouts confidently by their own judgement and not referring.

This thread has fallen way too far down.

btw why does the ref have to go to the sideline to look at something the video ref has already seen and deemed as a fk up.

Just overrule the joke in the middle and speed it up.

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Originally Posted by hawk

This thread has fallen way too far down.

btw why does the ref have to go to the sideline to look at something the video ref has already seen and deemed as a fk up.

Just overrule the joke in the middle and speed it up.

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I assuming you talking about the Heart penalty tonight ??

Thought it was pretty clear cut and cant believe the clown with the whistle didn't give it straight away

It wasn't even really a grey area pen either

Pretty clear cut from my lounge room

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Originally Posted by MFKS

Thought it was pretty clear cut and cant believe the clown with the whistle didn't give it straight away

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yeah this is the bigger point than VAR.

How did the ref and touchy miss that?

woeful.

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Originally Posted by plague

yeah this is the bigger point than VAR.

How did the ref and touchy miss that?

woeful.

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Perhaps they didn’t miss it, and the perceived safety net of the VAR means they don’t make decisions anymore.

A-League is now the Summer NRL, more refs, less decisions

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Originally Posted by WolfMan

Perhaps they didn’t miss it, and the perceived safety net of the VAR means they don’t make decisions anymore.

A-League is now the Summer NRL, more refs, less decisions

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the kiwi commentators at one point yesterday said words to the effect of "don't put your flag up for an offside call and let the VAR sort it out in the aftermath". WTF?

also, several times the pheonix crowd could be heard loudly chanting for the VAR to intervene. yeah, this is what we want in football.

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Originally Posted by belchardo

the kiwi commentators at one point yesterday said words to the effect of "don't put your flag up for an offside call and let the VAR sort it out in the aftermath". WTF?

also, several times the pheonix crowd could be heard loudly chanting for the VAR to intervene. yeah, this is what we want in football.

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Disgraceful. I live in hope we can look back at this and see it as a dark blot on a largely bright history. My fear is that it is the new normal

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Originally Posted by WolfMan

Perhaps they didn’t miss it, and the perceived safety net of the VAR means they don’t make decisions anymore.

A-League is now the Summer NRL, more refs, less decisions

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What came first; bad decisions by refs or the frustrated crowds yelling at cheating refs?

VAR to the rescue again.

i think a red is harsh, but i can see why they gave it.