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Just playing devils advocate. But maybe it's the Jets not wanting the players to just end up at a random club. But actually wanting them to go to a strong club, so that they can continue too develop and maybe move back into the jets system in years to come. Or is that to much forward thinking for the JetsQuote:
Originally Posted by JustMe
You give the Jets far too much credit.
A professional approach would be to ask the div.1 clubs what positions they are still looking to fill and then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bulldogs 1962
Sit down with the kids and parents (not a plonker email) and.explain the rationale why they have been dropped.
...Explain what they would like to see from them in the future so as to improve their chances of being considered again.
Then, provide them the club list on the position vacancies and to organise those kids to integrate with the NNSW TSP program.
Jets continue to fail in treading the line of 'cutthroat business' and community/fan engagement and growth...I personally haven't met any one who loves the Jets whose been part of their program
Absolutely something along these lines is what should happen. And like I said, I was just playing devils advocate. You also have to think that if it's happened how everyone is alluding it did. Then the Jets only have themselves to blame if those kids do develop more and are at a level to rejoin, as some may not now with being treated poorly.Quote:
Originally Posted by WOW2.0
Here here WOW. Makes too much sense to be applied over there at present unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by WOW2.0
Whilst it appears Jets had good intentions by advising the non retained player's previous clubs in an attempt to help secure them a place for 2025 they probably didn't factor in the possibility (likelihood) of at least one notoriously agenda driven NPLY coach ignoring any confidentiality or sensitivity around this pre notification by going off reservation and contacting parents/players before they had even been notified of their release.
If the Jets were really serious about the welfare and future development of those players not retained then a process such as what is proposed here by WOW would have been a far more professional and suitable approach for an A League academy to adopt
I never thought of Jets Youth Professional or much on development. Its a country town soccer program at the higher level.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meggsy
A kid has a chance to succeed but they to do that within the regime on their own accord. Welfare lol. I thought everyone knew this around here.
Most who are involved are looking at a payday.
GVE has a 3 day footy camp coming up with special guest speaker EmilyVE for $400. Add in the private "academies" its about the cash brothers.
Pros & cons, Good luck to all.
Several well deserved award winners at the NSW NPL awards dinner last night. Congratulations to all those involved.
I wouldn't say they are professional either (probably none qualify as that in Australia)Quote:
Originally Posted by JustMe
It is a professional team's academy system though
Yes, football in Australia is a Ponzi scheme...and it's driven by 'FOMO' (new term I learnt) 'Fear Of Missing Out'
On the concept of a professional academy:
I recently found a video of FC Krasnodar's academy set up (opened in mid-2008, club founded in Feb the same year)...that is beautiful and genuinely professional (and not measuring ourselves against the 5 big leagues)
It includes in it's operations:
A fully equiped sports high school with onsite accommodation for all students through 10 purpose built cottages each housing 34 student. Sports specific nutrition is met through the campus cafeteria.
The academy includes a hotel run by the club for visiting parents (home and away), academy weight room, regular gym, medical and rehabilitation centre, a pool and trampoline room, growth and nutrition monitoring goes without saying.
They own in the campus, 2 artificially turfed 'compressed air supported pitches' for winter training. In addition to 3 regular artificial & 12 grassed pitches. There is also a roofed boutique stadium for 3000 supporters used specifically for u-21 home matches...everything is new
Nothing is pay for play...all that in a sub-1M population centre
...Watching their academy product on YouTube (they show all their matches from U13s up free). Suffice to say it's a much higher standard then the Australian "long ball" game which is so popular...
That is a "professional" standard academy...IMO
But never the less, the Jets are a professional club's academy, and should be offering somewhat of a professional approach to how they discard kids, or attempt to develop them.
They also as a business that relies on fan engagement and affection need to think about the sour taste they leave in mouths from those interactions and how the community then interprets the same when they hear from friends and families about sub-optimal experiences
Which is the way it should be, though these academies are funded through the selling of players. Develop 10 players sell them each for $250,000 and you have $2.5M to spend on your academy the following year.Quote:
Originally Posted by WOW2.0
Which is part of the issue, A-League clubs can't sell players to each other, which would help.
Along with the inability to sign youth (and I mean those playing in the Sydney Men's comp) to professional contracts, allowing to keep them and sell them off later.
Couldn't agree more, a lot of bad tastes left in the mouths and while they will always be able to get players it does mean some don't bother or better players look to go to Mariners instead.Quote:
But never the less, the Jets are a professional club's academy, and should be offering somewhat of a professional approach to how they discard kids, or attempt to develop them.
They also as a business that relies on fan engagement and affection need to think about the sour taste they leave in mouths from those interactions and how the community then interprets the same when they hear from friends and families about sub-optimal experiences
Exactly!Quote:
Originally Posted by Taffy
Interesting thing, just because I mentioned them before, FC Krasnodar just sold a player to PSG for 20M euros and a 5 year deal, a product of their academy since he was 16 (joined 2015)...
Matvey Safanov, and he's just made his club debut for PSG in a Champions League match against Girona
Can you imagine that, from a country now completely excluded from world football too. No internetional stage for him to have been showcased at like with Daniel Arzani.
Now sell 10 players like that and imagine how professional an academy could, and should be run!!!
How long has the jets academy been running now?
I can think of jets youth teams being around for at least 10 years? So what percentage of participants have progressed from a jets academy, whether they completed a single year or multiple, to a professional contract of any kind?
How does this compare to other clubs around Australia?
"Professionalism" yeah great but if we've had 10 years now we need to ask more about efficacy.
Jets youth football was founded in 2008 (same as the club I've been citing (Jets as a club are 8 years older as well)Quote:
Originally Posted by Imyourhero
A key feature of "Professionalism" is efficiency though.
Not sure what percentage get to play professional football at any level...would be an interesting stat...I believe this year two 18 year olds were given "scholarship contracts"...whatever that really means
Not many A league clubs the junior set up like we do so I suppose we have to be thankful for what we have
That?s the way. It?s this sort of attitude that keeps the Socceroos chock full of NNSWF representatives 🙄Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
Maybe some questions that could be asked on an AMA Im looking to get organised with Ken Schembri