2015 Zone League 3 thread

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Originally Posted by E.J.S.C ZL

Wallsend will need a point against Mayfield last Round or it will come down to Goal difference if New Lambton win there last 2. But yes there 2nds will finish Minor Prem's. Congratulations Wallsend it will be a big achievement.

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Yep, Reserve grade have wrapped up the minor prem with a round to go. We need 1 point in 1st grade from the last round unless Kahibah can take some points from NL next weekend in there catch up game.

Looks like the 4 in 1st grade is settled. Comes down now to the final order.

Ressies is looking interesting in the battle for 4th. Kahibah 3 points behind Dudley with a game in hand and a superior goal difference. Dudley to play Edgeworth in the final round. Could be a very interesting final round to settle the 4.

If anyone is interested, here's the club championship points after round 17

Abermain 46
Dudley 130
Edgeworth 78
Jesmond 18
Kahibah 90
Mayfield 54
New Lambton 126
RAAF 110
Wallsend 152

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Originally Posted by WFC_ZL

Yep, Reserve grade have wrapped up the minor prem with a round to go. We need 1 point in 1st grade from the last round unless Kahibah can take some points from NL next weekend in there catch up game.

Looks like the 4 in 1st grade is settled. Comes down now to the final order.

Ressies is looking interesting in the battle for 4th. Kahibah 3 points behind Dudley with a game in hand and a superior goal difference. Dudley to play Edgeworth in the final round. Could be a very interesting final round to settle the 4.

If anyone is interested, here's the club championship points after round 17

Abermain 46
Dudley 130
Edgeworth 78
Jesmond 18
Kahibah 90
Mayfield 54
New Lambton 126
RAAF 110
Wallsend 152

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Wallsend deserve to be favourites in both grades. Their attack at the moment is the best in the league. New lambton have a strong defence, so to score 3 is a decent effort. I can see plenty of goals come finals in first grade. Is the four settled? Was suprised kahibah lost to abermain. Have they dropped players to stack ressies or given up?

Wallsend have been solid in ressies and deserve minors. Edgeworth have done well to make finals. New lambton have fallen away a little and still need a result to make finals. Could be a good final day.

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Originally Posted by anfield

Wallsend deserve to be favourites in both grades. Their attack at the moment is the best in the league. New lambton have a strong defence, so to score 3 is a decent effort. I can see plenty of goals come finals in first grade. Is the four settled? Was suprised kahibah lost to abermain. Have they dropped players to stack ressies or given up?

Wallsend have been solid in ressies and deserve minors. Edgeworth have done well to make finals. New lambton have fallen away a little and still need a result to make finals. Could be a good final day.

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It is good to see Abermain get some points together finally. IMO a much better team when where they stand on the table.

Stacking ressies has got to be the most ridiculous thing ever. Why bother? #Edgeworth

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Originally Posted by Albert

Stacking ressies has got to be the most ridiculous thing ever. Why bother? #Edgeworth

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Stacking? Only wins are stacking up for them, against all teams of late. Watching them against Jesmond they looked short across both grades. Maybe the stacking talk should change to talk of being late favourites?

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Originally Posted by Albert

It is good to see Abermain get some points together finally. IMO a much better team when where they stand on the table.

Stacking ressies has got to be the most ridiculous thing ever. Why bother? #Edgeworth

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We have never stacked our 2nds and aren't going too. They have made the semi's on there own merit. I think people are making these accusations, so when they do it they can say well Edgeworth has been doing it so we're going to do it too. Name games we have done it, rather then saying we are doing it ? Albert how many games have you seen us play ?

We plan on staying in the ZL comp and if we are stacking 2nds, players in 1st grade won't be happy if we aren't giving ourselves every chance in 1sts and won't be back. Outside of the 2 Wallsend games we have always been competitive in 1st grade.

but geez the 2nds know how to party when they do win it, stacks on

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Originally Posted by E.J.S.C ZL

We have never stacked our 2nds and aren't going too. They have made the semi's on there own merit. I think people are making these accusations, so when they do it they can say well Edgeworth has been doing it so we're going to do it too. Name games we have done it, rather then saying we are doing it ? Albert how many games have you seen us play ?

We plan on staying in the ZL comp and if we are stacking 2nds, players in 1st grade won't be happy if we aren't giving ourselves every chance in 1sts and won't be back. Outside of the 2 Wallsend games we have always been competitive in 1st grade.

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I suppose the stacking claim will allways come up when a team finishes lower grades strongly. Good to hear edgeworth not stacking ressies, their first grade results lately show this. Well done on the season

What are some early predictions for premiers for each grade given top 4 for both is pretty much sorted?

With all the talk about leading goal scorers in the other threads, how is everyone's leading goal scorer looking for the golden boot?

Wallsends top goal scorer is sitting around 22 goals in 1st grade for the season.

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Originally Posted by WFC_ZL

Wallsends top goal scorer is sitting around 22 goals in 1st grade for the season.

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If that's true then he's scored more goals on his own than any of the bottom three clubs. Must be a beast!

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Originally Posted by WFC_ZL

With all the talk about leading goal scorers in the other threads, how is everyone's leading goal scorer looking for the golden boot?


Wallsends top goal scorer is sitting around 22 goals in 1st grade for the season.

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Good effort, haven't scored 22 in my career!. Dudley top scorer maybe 10. Shared around between the squad. Shut down wallsend top scorer = win the game. Thanks for the tip, what number does he wear?

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Originally Posted by Charman

Good effort, haven't scored 22 in my career!. Dudley top scorer maybe 10. Shared around between the squad. Shut down wallsend top scorer = win the game. Thanks for the tip, what number does he wear?

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Considering the other striker is on 19/20, the plan should be to nullify both strikers...which is the job of the backline anyway.

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Originally Posted by Albert

What are some early predictions for premiers for each grade given top 4 for both is pretty much sorted?

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First grade:
Wallsend to beat RAAF in both legs.
Might call a bit of an 'upset' in Dudley beating lambton over both legs.
Wallsend going on to win minor and major premiers.

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Originally Posted by anfield

\ Was suprised kahibah lost to abermain. Have they dropped players to stack ressies or given up?.

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What?????? Funnily enough up until the Abermain game we were still in with a good shot to make first grade finals so why on earth would we stack reserves?? Not to mention that we as a club have been fair and will always continue to be. We had a draw with N.L in first grade 2 days ago so that proves our best players are still playing there.

Dudley have been quick to have shots at other teams for stacking on this forum.

As a casual reader of the forum It never bothered me until today when I heard a direct quote from a Dudley player that there was banter at a Dudley BBQ about stacking reserves this weekend. ( They need to draw or win and firsts result doesn't matter)

Now I understand joking around about it at a team get together and actually doing it are two very different things! But hearing that made me laugh as to how strongly they have been against it on here.

At the end of the day everybody knows Dudley is one of the clubs with 2 very separate squads and apart from injuries has been very little movement of players between the 2 grades. So if any of the better players turn up in reserves as a one off on the weekend then that would be an extremely hypocritical thing to do.

But I trust all parties will do the right thing.

Goodluck All with the finals series and Congrats to Wallsend on Promotion!!!

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Originally Posted by Sanchezz

Goodluck All with the finals series and Congrats to Wallsend on Promotion!!!

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Thanks Sanchezz, has been a good season. Thanks to all the teams for the year. Looking at past years and numbers ZL3 has been improving and I hope the clubs stick with it to continue its growth.

As for this weekend, Saturday is shaping up to be a good battle for that final spot in Ressies, 3 teams in the running. Dudley and Kahibah being the 2 with a real shot as I dont see RAAF pulling the goal difference back if results go there way. But who knows...... crazy things can happen.

Good luck to all teams in the finals.

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Originally Posted by Sanchezz

What?????? Funnily enough up until the Abermain game we were still in with a good shot to make first grade finals so why on earth would we stack reserves?? Not to mention that we as a club have been fair and will always continue to be. We had a draw with N.L in first grade 2 days ago so that proves our best players are still playing there.

Dudley have been quick to have shots at other teams for stacking on this forum.

As a casual reader of the forum It never bothered me until today when I heard a direct quote from a Dudley player that there was banter at a Dudley BBQ about stacking reserves this weekend. ( They need to draw or win and firsts result doesn't matter)

Now I understand joking around about it at a team get together and actually doing it are two very different things! But hearing that made me laugh as to how strongly they have been against it on here.

At the end of the day everybody knows Dudley is one of the clubs with 2 very separate squads and apart from injuries has been very little movement of players between the 2 grades. So if any of the better players turn up in reserves as a one off on the weekend then that would be an extremely hypocritical thing to do.

But I trust all parties will do the right thing.

Goodluck All with the finals series and Congrats to Wallsend on Promotion!!!

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Wow, calm down champ. A little bit of stirring/banter floating around. For the record the stacking banter has come from reps from multiple teams. It will always come up, epecially when results look a little off.

For the record dudley has ONE squad that breaks into firsts and ressies on weekend. All bar a few of the squad have played first grade at some stage, dont know where your seperate claims based on??? Maybe go check the teamsheets, 'The truth is out there'.

As for the weekends games. It will be business as usual. With 3 weeks between games im sure all attempts will be made to have as many players available as possible to have 2 strong grades.

Lambton 4_0 win in first
Res Lambton 3_2
Good luck New Lambton for the semi

Kahibah vs Raaf

3-2 win kahibah in reserves

5-3 win to kahibah in first grade.

Came out to show we should have been playing finals football in first grade today and I think we proved that. 2 very hard faught matches. Consistancy was the issue in both grades. Play top football one week and then lose to last place the next.

Best of luck to all the teams playing finals football in first grade.

seeyou all next season.

Motha f$&ker. Edgie win res 2-0, dudley win 1st 3-2 after being down 2-0. Ressie in top 4 all year and miss the finals in the last week, shattered. Well done kahibah for hanging in there.
Contrats to all teams for making finals, extra credit to the teams who made it first year in. Will be a good finals series in what has been a very close comp.

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Originally Posted by Charman

Motha f$&ker. Edgie win res 2-0, dudley win 1st 3-2 after being down 2-0. Ressie in top 4 all year and miss the finals in the last week, shattered. Well done kahibah for hanging in there.
Contrats to all teams for making finals, extra credit to the teams who made it first year in. Will be a good finals series in what has been a very close comp.

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Unlucky. Dudley is still in the main race so Don't worry to much. Would have been annoying to get two 5ths and miss out on semi finals football for us too.

I wont mention the 1 free kick we got 2 mins from full time and the fact the first goal took a deflection off him. Seriously? 1 free kick in 80 mins? Cmon. Still out played but 23-1 free kicks does not help.

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Originally Posted by Charman

I wont mention the 1 free kick we got 2 mins from full time and the fact the first goal took a deflection off him. Seriously? 1 free kick in 80 mins? Cmon. Still out played but 23-1 free kicks does not help.

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I won't mention it but..

Mayfield v Wallsend

Ressies: 3 all
1st Grade: 13 - 1 Wallsend

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Originally Posted by WFC_ZL

Mayfield v Wallsend

Ressies: 3 all
1st Grade: 13 - 1 Wallsend

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Wow what happened in first grade??? Big day for Wallsend in Zone and NewFM today

Congratulations to Wallsend, Best team for 2015 regardless of what happens in Finals Football (An Upset Comp - any lucky dog can win) A team that wins the league is the best team IMO.
On that note, We play Wallsend again for 3 years in a row in finals football, and just so you know i will NOT PLAY ANY 1st Grade players. Their season is over. I will only play guys that have shown commitment and are eligible to play... I respect the game and players too much. Ye guys know me anyways, even when ye played us last game I had 0 subs as i refused to put 1st grade player on the bench.

Good luck to all in finals football
Irish
Kahibah Manager.

Can someone please confirm Times, Dates and locations for Finals too ???

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Originally Posted by Charman

Motha f$&ker. Edgie win res 2-0, dudley win 1st 3-2 after being down 2-0. Ressie in top 4 all year and miss the finals in the last week, shattered. Well done kahibah for hanging in there.
Contrats to all teams for making finals, extra credit to the teams who made it first year in. Will be a good finals series in what has been a very close comp.

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First grade was a good game, considering the state of ground, the carpark would have been softer. Edgie keeper did well with some solid one on one stops. Edgie could be a semi final contender next year given strong depth.

Wallsend go into the finals as favourites I reckon but they wont have it easy. Raaf will give them a solid run.

Edgie ressies appeared to deserve their win, looked pretty solid and maybe favourites considering wallsend and NL might have to draw on players throughout finals. Just confirming dudley played their ressies team in
Ressies on weekend and didnt stack team at all (hope that ends debate ).
Refereeing was poor, one free kick to dudley in game (only free kick was with one minute to go) led to extreme frustration from ressies team and led to unwarranted challenges in game. But the better team won the match.

Good luck to all in final series.

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Originally Posted by anfield

First grade was a good game, considering the state of ground, the carpark would have been softer. Edgie keeper did well with some solid one on one stops. Edgie could be a semi final contender next year given strong depth.

Wallsend go into the finals as favourites I reckon but they wont have it easy. Raaf will give them a solid run.

Edgie ressies appeared to deserve their win, looked pretty solid and maybe favourites considering wallsend and NL might have to draw on players throughout finals. Just confirming dudley played their ressies team in
Ressies on weekend and didnt stack team at all (hope that ends debate ).
Refereeing was poor, one free kick to dudley in game (only free kick was with one minute to go) led to extreme frustration from ressies team and led to unwarranted challenges in game. But the better team won the match.

Good luck to all in final series.

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I think Edgeworth ressies will be the team to beat in Reserves as they have beaten all other top 4 teams, I think.

As for firsts any of the top 4 teams could win it on their day but it's probably fair to say Wallsend has had the most consistent run into the finals.

Should be a great three weeks of football coming up and best of luck to all teams!

Also add, Dudley and New lambton should be game of the weekend, and kahibah ressies the smokies for ressies.

With the season coming to the end it brings up some questions.
Will Wallsend take promotion?
Tenambit finish last in zl2 and will be relegated.
Are all teams going around again next year? Any new clubs?
What does everyone think of competition structure? Personally I dont like finals format, it doesnt reward top teams at all.
Is the top 4 the way to go? Or should it be more?
Dudley asked other clubs last year
About the creation of a third grade for teams in zl2 and zl3. This being optional for teams that had the players for it, possibly called zl4 and a single graded competition. After interest from only some clubs it never got off the ground.

Some feedback from a couple of our guys is that games could be played before ressies and on friday nights. Zl2 and Zl3 would have seperate squads from Zl4 squads
and draw on players when required. Players from Zl2 or Zl3 could drop back to Zl4 for a maximum number of games, possible 3.

Friday night games would allow guys that have weddings, work or other commitments the chance to play. This would all depend on clubs over 35's commitments.

But great for clubs that want to grow numbers and depth. Good also for clubs looking to go up the grades into zl1.

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Originally Posted by Irish

Congratulations to Wallsend, Best team for 2015 regardless of what happens in Finals Football (An Upset Comp - any lucky dog can win) A team that wins the league is the best team IMO.
On that note, We play Wallsend again for 3 years in a row in finals football, and just so you know i will NOT PLAY ANY 1st Grade players. Their season is over. I will only play guys that have shown commitment and are eligible to play... I respect the game and players too much. Ye guys know me anyways, even when ye played us last game I had 0 subs as i refused to put 1st grade player on the bench.

Good luck to all in finals football
Irish
Kahibah Manager.

Can someone please confirm Times, Dates and locations for Finals too ???

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Thanks Irish and thanks to all teams for the season. Its been a good battle Wallsend v Kahibah over the last couple of years in the finals and I expect it to be the same again this year.

Good luck to all the teams in the finals. I think with the quality of the teams in both grades any of the teams could end up making the GF, it will not be easy for anybody.

Wallsend will be taking promotion. Our goal for the season was promotion and we are happy to have achieved that.

Could well be another opening for a team to go up I hear, so Who ever finished second don't be surprised if ur asked to go up as well.

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Originally Posted by onlooker

Could well be another opening for a team to go up I hear, so Who ever finished second don't be surprised if ur asked to go up as well.

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Has someone from ZL2 indicated they also want to come down or is it indicated it will be the 2 bottom teams?

Congratulations Wallsend, what an effort first year in. Credit to all players and committee members for getting this done. To the teams who struggled I hope you come back next year, Dudley wooden spooners in both grades last year but never hesitated on coming back for more.

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Originally Posted by Charman

Has someone from ZL2 indicated they also want to come down or is it indicated it will be the 2 bottom teams?

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Niether even tho I reckon mussy should count themselves somewhat fortunate to stay up.

Player numbers for a club is speculated to be an issue have to wait and see I guess ( plenty of time for the club to see if other teams will fill the void from departing players), but as I said don't be surprised to get asked.

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Originally Posted by anfield

With the season coming to the end it brings up some questions.
Will Wallsend take promotion?
Tenambit finish last in zl2 and will be relegated.
Are all teams going around again next year? Any new clubs?
What does everyone think of competition structure? Personally I dont like finals format, it doesnt reward top teams at all.
Is the top 4 the way to go? Or should it be more?
Dudley asked other clubs last year
About the creation of a third grade for teams in zl2 and zl3. This being optional for teams that had the players for it, possibly called zl4 and a single graded competition. After interest from only some clubs it never got off the ground.

Some feedback from a couple of our guys is that games could be played before ressies and on friday nights. Zl2 and Zl3 would have seperate squads from Zl4 squads
and draw on players when required. Players from Zl2 or Zl3 could drop back to Zl4 for a maximum number of games, possible 3.

Friday night games would allow guys that have weddings, work or other commitments the chance to play. This would all depend on clubs over 35's commitments.

But great for clubs that want to grow numbers and depth. Good also for clubs looking to go up the grades into zl1.

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Or instead of creating a whole new league, just form an all age squad and multi register players. You suggested this last year and it was howled down. Do what Dudley United did this year with a P grade in the all age comps and simply multi register blokes. Could even join the Friday night all age comps if that's preferable, or play your home games before the zone leagues.

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Originally Posted by anfield

With the season coming to the end it brings up some questions.
Will Wallsend take promotion?
Tenambit finish last in zl2 and will be relegated.
Are all teams going around again next year? Any new clubs?
What does everyone think of competition structure? Personally I dont like finals format, it doesnt reward top teams at all.
Is the top 4 the way to go? Or should it be more?
Dudley asked other clubs last year
About the creation of a third grade for teams in zl2 and zl3. This being optional for teams that had the players for it, possibly called zl4 and a single graded competition. After interest from only some clubs it never got off the ground.

Some feedback from a couple of our guys is that games could be played before ressies and on friday nights. Zl2 and Zl3 would have seperate squads from Zl4 squads
and draw on players when required. Players from Zl2 or Zl3 could drop back to Zl4 for a maximum number of games, possible 3.

Friday night games would allow guys that have weddings, work or other commitments the chance to play. This would all depend on clubs over 35's commitments.

But great for clubs that want to grow numbers and depth. Good also for clubs looking to go up the grades into zl1.

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We will be stacking around for next year. As for the final's series, it's the 1st time being involved with this set up so we will have a better idea after being involved. Looking at it i don't mind the idea that 1st get the advantage of playing 4th, if 4th can beat them over 2 weeks after 1st being the most consistent team all year they deserve to make the GF. As for a 3rd team we wouldn't be interested, we had 21 to 23 guy most weeks. So to find another team we would struggle.

Congratulation to all teams playing Final's this year, especially clubs that got both grades in. Best of Luck to everyone, looking forward to some quality football over the next few weeks.

Semi Final 1
Ressies
Kahibah 1 - 3 Wallsend

1st Grade
RAAF 1 - 3 Wallsend

I heard there was some interesting goings on at the other game on the weekend?
Plus a pretty big result for New Lambton.

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Originally Posted by leftrightout

I heard there was some interesting goings on at the other game on the weekend?
Plus a pretty big result for New Lambton.

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"goings on" my favourite term.... elaborate?