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Like Chelsea did to Spurs in 2012Quote:
Originally Posted by BodyNovo
Man, Ronaldo is just fascinating to watch at the moment.
decent game at the moment.
lemme just go on and repost this.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
not sure if there has ever been a bigger 'superstar' who can be so 'anonymous' in games yet when you need that one thing to win a game he does it probably better than just about anyone in history.
just such a fascinating player.
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Originally Posted by plague
Enjoyed it very much. First half was pretty decent, both teams playing really well. Juve fell off in the second half.
And agree about Ronaldo.
yeah, completely absent for about 80% of the game, but comes into and scores two including a key pass for his first.
those two juve fans having ciggies :rof:
How good is Ramos??
Sign him up
Make him head of Mongrel
lol, the shiny turd did fkall. Lucky there were 10 good men around him.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
First half was amazing. Juve all over them the first 10 minutes and could have had a couple. They never showed up in the second half.
As for Ronaldo, not a fan at all but at some point you have to admit that when he continues to pop up out of nowhere and score goals with such reliability, there's something there. Total wanker though.
Also wish Kroos, Modric, Isco and Marcelo played for a different team so I could like them more. Fantastic players.
Who got man of the match?
I thought Kroos and Modric were standouts.
Zidane did some proper coaching at halftime. Totally different game after the break.
(If it's at all possible) I kind of feel bad for Zidane as no matter what he does as a coach he'll never be as good as he was as a player.
Doesn't get the credit ATM.
Oh, and just realised James Rodriguez didn't even make the squad for the final.
That's fairly bonkers.
Zidane 2 CL as a coach 1 as a playerQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
At the rate he going he may be a better manager than as a player
Even if he does **** all from now as a manager he is gonna get another 10 years of pay days out of his playing career and CL wins as a Manager
I see your point but you kind of left out single handedly winning a World Cup then dragging a bunch of festering carcasses to the final of another only to realise how terrible his team mates were when he went and had a little sit down in the naughty corner.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Bloke was the greatest player of his generation.
Prob gonna come across a bit more competition as a manager 'tis all I'm saying.
Ronaldo got motm. Scored 2 goals I guess but meh.
I dunno about Zidane yet. People claiming he's one of the best managers in the world. He might be. But 18 months managing the best team in the world and winning stuff... pretty tough call to make. Wait 10 years and see where everyone is.
You look at that French side thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
Djoukaeff Deschamps Viera Petit Lizarazu Blanc Lebouf Henry Barthez
The 98 French side were no mugs and home ground advantage helped
As for the 2006
Barthez Trezuguet Ribery Wilford Viera Thuram
Still no mugs as well
He was lucky he was about during a golden period for French football
Yeah he scored goals in the WC Final but I wouldn't say he won the French the game
The drugs they slipped Fat Ronny were what got them over the line
Probably the biggest understatement of all time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
Ramos is a **** end off. How does a defender of his class continue to act like a bellend and dive
Defender of his class??Quote:
Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
WTF you been watching??
The bloke is a dead set legend in the dark arts
Bloke should be appreciated for it
**** that only thing worse is how the hell the Refs fall for it. (and yes I realise this is rich coming from someone who loves Drogba, But I hated when he dived and I hate when anyone else dives.) If we had a player like that at the jets it would drive me nutsQuote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
We didQuote:
Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
We got rid of him and sold him to some European Club in Gosford
aparently there was a crowd stampede in Turin when some idiot let off a firework
http://www.espnfc.com/juventus/story...rin-amid-scare
what sort of an idiot lets off a large bang in a crowded area at a time of heighened terrorism fears?
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Originally Posted by Macca
that's true, he's the biggest total ****ing wanker in the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by parksey
It football crowdQuote:
Originally Posted by boz-monaut
I don't think the ripping of pyro and associating it with government false flag ops is in the thinking of your average football hoolz
take it to Breitbart you nutcase
I've watched that Mario Mandzukic goal a dozen times. Even the missus went "Wow....."
It's those moments when you realise why we love this game.
I've been looking over a Jazz study book recently and it talks about the 99% of 'work' and the 1% of 'magic'.
That goal was the 1% through and through.
While watching the game, maybe 2 minutes before the goal, I thought to myself "Mandzukic has been quiet tonight"
Thanks to Mario Manjerkic for scoring 7 minutes too late and absolutely destroying the hopes & dreams of the nf.net KOTH Punterz Club :oops:
Agreed with Plague, I'm assuming he said this - when it comes to GOAT, Ronaldo doesn't tie Zidane's laces.
Old mate ran over and stomped him for no reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
You expect him to just stand there and cop it?
Easy yellow card, and it's the Juve bozos fault he already had one.
Ramos did nothing to get him sent.
You mean the same 'Golden generation' that not only failed to get out of the group stage but failed to score a goal in the process when Zidane was out injured.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
With Zidane: World Cup win, World Cup final, Euro win, Confed cup win.
Without Zidane: Worst World Cup performance by a holder in history.
Zidane WAS the Golden Generation of French football.
I'm not big on the individual comparisons, because Zidane is the greatest footballer I've ever seen, and I'm happy to have people think the same about Maradona, Messi or Ronaldo.Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
But I've grown to appreciate Ronaldo the more he changes his game and adapts to his physical skills diminishing with age.
One other thing about Ronaldo, and Zidanes management of him. For years now the Messi/Ronaldo argument has been based around stats, especially goals. I think it's a much bigger deal than people realise to get Ronaldo to sit out an easy La Liga match where he can pad his stats to keep pace with Messi, instead sacrifice himself for the good of the team trying to chase Trophies.
Messi, by virtue of age, will finish with many more goals at every level than Ronaldo, but the trophy cabinets are now largely the same. It's probably closer now than ever about 'who's better' between those two*.
*and yes, whatever your answer is in this debate it's wrong because Iniesta was better than both of them.
cc:MFKS.
Personally I couldn't give a toss about goals and trophies and stats. Watching Messi play puts a huge goofy grin on my face. His vision and fine control leave me awestruck. People can have their opinions and awards can go to whoever, that's all fine. Easy answer for my pick.
Talk to me when Les Murray sings a song about Ronnie or any other fraud tbh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrOLGifnMJk
5000 words of dribble to finally get to the important bit where Iniesta is better than both CR7 and MessiQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
Only problem for Iniesta is he still second to Griff but not Iniesta fault he can't surpas Griff
Someone's gotta try and speak your language there boss.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Ronaldo has bossed multiple leagues and generally has good games for Portugal, Messi has only down well in a easy spanish league and ArgentinaQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
How many years have you been part of this forum?Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Haha you honestly think y'all gonna drag me into me some Messi v Ronaldo hot take showdown?Quote:
Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET
Bhahahahaha.
Besides, we all know whoever has the most assists is the better player.
A casual observation of the NBA and something similar is happening. People are comparing Lebron James to Michael Jordan, and one of the biggest critcisms (sp??) of Lebron is he gets rested far more than Jordan does, thus making Lebron's claim to GOAT invalid. I don't watch it enough to have an opinion on Lebron vs Jordan tbh, but thought it was relevant to what you've just said.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
IMO it is also harder to compare guys of different generations, because of how much the players, game, etc evolve. Does it irk anyone else watching pre-90s stuff and seeing the all-too-common backpass, for eg? Kills me every time.
We should all just be really thankful to be in an age where we can watch such amazing talents from our pocket phones IMO.
No showdown, I Honestly think Messi would get hacked to death in the Prem and Wouldn't last 2 seasons specially how the Refs let things goQuote:
Originally Posted by plague
I am always intrigued by how many people seem to spend way more time on the hypothetical argument rather than just appreciating what's going on in front of them.
NBA at the moment is a perfect example, all you hear about is Lebron v Jordan but the Warriors team is right there in front of us and it's majestic to watch.
The true test of Lebron will be how he deals with the Monstars in Space Jam 2, and only then can we fully compare him to Jordan tbf.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague