Entry fee is 10K I believe and yes its not the fees killing clubs, its the egos of over paid players who just keep wanting more...paid to them by the egos of clubs that what to win the NPL and 2HD comps.Quote:
Originally Posted by sammydog
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Entry fee is 10K I believe and yes its not the fees killing clubs, its the egos of over paid players who just keep wanting more...paid to them by the egos of clubs that what to win the NPL and 2HD comps.Quote:
Originally Posted by sammydog
Any club paying overs to win either Men's Comp or WPL deserves what they get. These clubs that are trading insolvently is a failure of Northern to correctly govern. All the talk last year of new NPL etc...a perfect time to put a broom through NPL, do some due diligence and add a couple of new clubs who have a fiscal policy to cope without a year of beer sales.......12 team NPL, shared grounds and resources....strong clubs, salary caps.......start over.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jardelsimage
In the first year of NPL the player points system was perfect for all clubs but no, the greedy cubs wanted it changed because it didn’t suit their greedy egos, so the rich got richer and the poor got poorer
Interesting article in the Newy Herald today
Very. Hearing from a club contact that some players are more than happy now to sit out season then to recommence training and play for much less in front of no crowds. I’ve also been told three clubs have told nnswf that they won’t play if they can’t have crowds. Not sure who those clubs are. Anyone know?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hurricane
A club contact of which club JohnnoQuote:
Originally Posted by Johnno
Cool, bring in some youngsters and 3 less teams means it will be easier to fit the season in to the shortened time period. Win winQuote:
Originally Posted by Johnno
I heard Olympic Azzurri and Weston this morningQuote:
Originally Posted by Johnno
Of significance also (maybe not to most) is the extension of the season to end of October will land a number of players in senior teams, bang in the middle of the HSC!
Affect the U18s and Reserves more than 1st gradeQuote:
Originally Posted by Barry Dawson
Oh well let them flounder, I'm sure they have enough players in reserves that can play up and both games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hurricane
Did anyone else see today's article in the Herald.
Coaches and players at Lake Macquarie are coaching and playing for free this, season. Great initiative by the group, putting the club and the game first.
Wonder if any clubs will follow suit
Great news, doubt many will follow unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hurricane
Yes most will follow. Just you wait and see!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hurricane
I don't think Valentine will be one that follows sorry Carl. The coaches possibly, but not many of the hired big guns. Not picking on Valentine, you could throw the names of the Jaffas, Magic, Olympic, Edgeworth, Maitland or whoever you want here.
Lakes and Adamstown will find it very easy to do as they don't have any players on big money.
I am talking about clubs as opposed to individuals. Certain individuals may (and will) opt out of playing for free but their club will promote younger players to fill that void. This season is likely to be very different and the advice I am receiving from those in the know is the majority of clubs have agreed to play for no pay. There will be others who will still want to win at all cost however. Damian Zane was quoted in The Newcastle Herald as saying, “For me, if we played, there would always be an asterisk beside the winners because it will be different, but it’s just about playing.”Quote:
Originally Posted by Hurricane
Clubs and a majority of players will take a pay cut. Or else they will tell everyone they are but a few might put the arm around a couple and sling them something later. That is the very clear message coming from most. It will be different but surely all agree different is a necessity and major change is needed? These clubs who trade insolvently year to year, pilfering Youth money whilst pretending to give a shit about development are literally killing the game and they are embarrassing. Unless you spend what you cannot afford, (Maitland last year Jaffas every year), you don't compete. NNSWF have done zero over the years toward any kind of true governance. These clubs are not PREMIER in any way shape or form. Are we really accepting of letting these beat up old cars stay in the race? It becomes more laughable by the day. Eland has a chance to use this time to re boot the entire region and strengthen the association as other codes suffer from a similar fiscal policy that really mirrors a chook raffle. Any clubs who are openly struggling need to be audited. If they cannot meet strict financial criteria, move them on. He won't, same old rubbish albeit with clean hands will be the new world order. Job done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_Carl
So, you've got access to both clubs financials have you? Either prove the accuracy of your accusations or stop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onyatoes
Makes it up as he goes along HunterQuote:
Originally Posted by Hunter403
Football SA is allowing teams to resume training this week with social distancing protocols.
Helps to be in a state that has only had one confirmed case in two weeksQuote:
Originally Posted by Bull fighter
Well.....if you take a look boys, I have been spot on so far about most things. You don't need to be Einstein to work out that when Maitland go from 8th to a GF and Thommo and Young Cowburn front up with the Swann bros that they have broken the bank....As for Jaffas, if they had money to spend they wouldn't have approached Merewether WPL to share their ground to block New Lambton taking over. Open your eyes boys and girls. The only thing Premier about the local comp is the cock up way in which they trade. Magic and Olympic have community cash that props them up, otherwise the whole thing folds. In fact if the new group of ex pros looking to reinvent the game get their way, NNSWF won't exist. Maybe a good thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter403
My issue is that you said:Quote:
Originally Posted by Onyatoes
"Unless you spend what you cannot afford, (Maitland last year Jaffas every year)"
I said prove it or shut up. You still have proved nothing. Where is your proof that those clubs spend what they can't afford? The fact that they are still going might put a hole in your argument.
I am not sure how having money would enable Jaffas to block New Lambton's bid to use Edden. Are you suggesting that they could pay someone to block New Lambton? The rumoured approach to Merewether WNPL would be more about getting Jaffas usage of Edden higher to counter any argument from New Lambton in that area. From what I have heard, New Lambton's way of going about getting on to Edden has upset more than just Jaffas.
I will agree with you that getting rid of the administrative body that is NNSW Football would be a good thing. Handle all admin nationally. The problem with centralising everything is that everyone outside of Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane will be forgotten. Happens in every line of business in this country. There will be someone appointed as a head honcho for the area (maybe a small staff) because if there isn't, who will take the regions problems to the national body? Who will sort the local competitions? No one.
Indeed Jaffas don't need to share the grounds to get money, and that wouldn't work anyway because Merewether would be paying council not Jaffas. Also ignores the bloke that funds the Jaffas, as long as they have him (and his kids are allowed to play for the club) they don't need to find other ways of getting coin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter403
How did Maitland go from 8th to a gf.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onyatoes
Last 4 year's results
2016 4th lost to Edgeworth in semi
2017 8th
2018 3rd lost to Magic in semi
2019 PREMIERS lost to Edgy in gf.
Still seem to be going with a strong squad this season, so the bank may not be broken.
Jaffas have money to spend every year, good sponsors, especially Sneddo.
Who are you involved with Onyatoes
I “think” what Onyatoes is generally saying is, like any business, if a club is spending $x on players and that spend is so high that they are unable to trade in an economically constrained environment (eg like we are seeing now) or they are relying on the income from the following fiscal year to pay the debts of year before - its not a responsible position to be in.
There are clubs right now who are definitely struggling. At least one I know (as you all would know) uses is gifted significant $$ from the it Interdistrict/Community teams every year. What will the impact be if juniors don’t play for this club - another major hit to an already depleted budget.
The reason why clubs are so intent on playing SAP and Youth? They need that rego help the club afloat. No question - ask your clubs for a breakdown of their budgets. Trust me - only those who could play seniors without SAP and Youth playing are truely sustainable
Yeah I agree with those points from Onyatoes, and you can look at past clubs histories and it is a proven fact, Lakes probably a standout from the days they had Babic, Brown, Swancott, Burt, O'Sullivan running around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry Dawson
But you can't paint every club the same, and if some clubs work harder as a committee and recruit plenty of sponsors and run their club properly, good luck to them and who cares what they spend.
I agree with both of you about certain clubs robbing their youth to pay 1st grade, even the next year's rego money.
Every club does it, there’s no doubt about itQuote:
Originally Posted by Hurricane
Has anyone heard the rumour that first and reserve grade NPL is only 13 rounds this year???
That’s what has been presented to NNSW by Clubs - late this week.
Whether NNSW consider it or not will be interesting.
Makes good sense in many respects - when considering the financial elements facing clubs
Caleb Cox from Weston to Jaffas
I was at Westfield today, hundreds perhaps thousands of people there, social distancing not so great.
I cannot believe Northern will not allow spectators at games with appropriate distancing.
Plenty of space around all grounds for the couple of hundred at grounds to spread out.
And don’t start me on schools and school buses, good they are back at school but over 1000 kids in my sons school and at times dozens of kids pretty close to each other so my son says.
So why no appropriately spaced spectators at NPL??!
And just now watching Brisbane Broncos fans parked side by side watching a big screen of the game tonight, most people sitting at the back or front of their car, 70 cars, over 250 people, all families at least 2 metres apart, yet same can’t be done according to the fools at Northern!
While I neither agree nor disagree with your statements. Wouldn't the rule be driven by current government policy re: crowds? I could only assume if the government moves to 100+ people come kickoff time that spectators may be allowed?
Of course Northern make all the rules, I know who the fool is hereQuote:
Originally Posted by hamburgler
So 13 round competition it is. What are everyone's thoughts on this, will they bring out a new draw?
Teams were notified of it last weekQuote:
Originally Posted by Hurricane
Of the 13 round comp Goatscheese or of a new drawQuote:
Originally Posted by Goatscheese
The new draw a memo was sent out showing them the rounds they play on what weekend and the dates of the finals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hurricane
Thanks, yeah I just heard it will follow the original draw from July 11.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goatscheese
So round 1 will be
Jaffas vs Edgeworth
Maitland vs Olympic
Broadmeadow vs Adamstown
Weston vs Azzurri
Lakes vs Valentine
Some interesting reads in the herald last few days
Azzurri and Olympic losing players, various reasons, work, study, boarders.
Also read that clubs have imposed a player transfer hold, PPS I believe, except Jaffas obviously,
Wonder if non PPS players can move, Olympic probably not so effected, they have had strong 20’s etc but Azzurri, not so, is it an opportunity for fringe player, or do clubs just do their best this season.
Will be interesting