2022 NPL Youth thread

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Originally Posted by KITZ

Anyone know how the Charlestown v Edgeworth games went today?

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I do.

3-zip Edgy. Could have been x2 that

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Originally Posted by The Berlin Wall

I do.

3-zip Edgy. Could have been x2 that

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Why wasn't it?

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Originally Posted by Goatscheese

Why wasn't it?

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If you don’t know how soccer works I’m not sure this forum is for you buddy.

Maybe head back over to your QAnon forums and see where we are with COVID?

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Originally Posted by Goatscheese

Damn you'd think the coach would know why his own team was unable to score.

Many reasons a coach can give and since I wasn't there you could've bullshitted and said that Charlestown changed their formation and players around to prevent any more goals.

If you can't see why your player's couldn't score more best you step back and let someone who knows how to analyse a match take your job.

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Hang on a minute are you inferring The Berlin Wall is the Edgeworth u/13's coach?Because im positive its not and the moderators dont take too kindly to outing people on here.Sorry but just wanted to clear things up before anything gets out of hand.

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Originally Posted by Goatscheese

Damn you'd think the coach would know why his own team was unable to score.

Many reasons a coach can give and since I wasn't there you could've bullshitted and said that Charlestown changed their formation and players around to prevent any more goals.

If you can't see why your player's couldn't score more best you step back and let someone who knows how to analyse a match take your job.

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Jeez Cheese. I told you before I ain’t the coach but i did watch the game. Edgy were real good and Azzurri not so much. Is that enough detail for you to scuttle back to your notepad with?

What do you for work dude? You comment on every damn post so I’m thinking that club coaching money plus Northern coaching money is so good you don’t need to work. Maybe I should start coaching?

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Originally Posted by Goatscheese

He knows an awful lot about the teams he coaches and programs he is in. I certainly wasn't the one to out him

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Parent or clubman.

tbh the edgy 13s are going better than thought after a couple of better players jumped ship last year. Although they havent played the top teams yet.

I thought Charlie had better youth. Maybe an off weekend.

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Originally Posted by sapdad

Hang on a minute are you inferring The Berlin Wall is the Edgeworth u/13's coach?Because im positive its not and the moderators dont take too kindly to outing people on here.Sorry but just wanted to clear things up before anything gets out of hand.

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Mods only ban MFKS and anyone not Woke. Well we are in commie town so makes sense.

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Originally Posted by BS detecor

Yeah they have never taken losing well

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I beg to differ.

Tragic are the biggest grubs when it comes to losing. Cant even win nicely.

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Originally Posted by terry

I beg to differ.

Tragic are the biggest grubs when it comes to losing. Cant even win nicely.

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You can beg all you want but the red cards tell a different story

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Originally Posted by KITZ

Both likely as bad as one another in the boys comp. and worse again when they play each other.....

From experience many teams can be as bad when they are winning as much as when they are losing, it's all about what the club and coach allows.

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The derby is the biggest and best game of the year in any league and there’s no bigger derby in newcastle than magic v olympic. Long may it continue

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Originally Posted by BS detecor

The derby is the biggest and best game of the year in any league and there’s no bigger derby in newcastle than magic v olympic. Long may it continue

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Is there even any agro in the youth these days anyway?I mean it in a good way,the games we watched between these 2 clubs have always been quality but never anything too out of control.The parents get into it more though.I would also nominate Magic/Edgeworth as a rivalry that seems to be across all grades.Not sure if its a new thing but being familiar with both clubs its a game they look forward too each year.

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Originally Posted by sapdad

Is there even any agro in the youth these days anyway?I mean it in a good way,the games we watched between these 2 clubs have always been quality but never anything too out of control.The parents get into it more though.I would also nominate Magic/Edgeworth as a rivalry that seems to be across all grades.Not sure if its a new thing but being familiar with both clubs its a game they look forward too each year.

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Magic 13s defeat Olympic 5-1 in tonight's catch up fixture... Another red card in second half for Olympic makes it 3/3 for them in the derby round... Can they go 4/4 tomorrow night in the 14s fixture.

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Originally Posted by The Magician

Magic 13s defeat Olympic 5-1 in tonight's catch up fixture... Another red card in second half for Olympic makes it 3/3 for them in the derby round... Can they go 4/4 tomorrow night in the 14s fixture.

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For kicking the ball away. wow havent seen a yellow for that for ages. Was actually a decent game. No goals scored after the send off

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Originally Posted by terry

For kicking the ball away. wow havent seen a yellow for that for ages. Was actually a decent game. No goals scored after the send off

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Wow, you don't watch much First Grade then, happens in about 2 out of every 3 games.

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Originally Posted by KITZ

nothing wrong with a derby for adults with fully formed brains who can understand how decisions can have long term ramifications.

teenagers don't which is why they have responsible adults in charge for their welfare - and supposedly guiding them to become potential first grade players. If you let them engrain bad habits into their behaviour what they think they can get away with now will only cause them hassles when they are adults, both for their football and life in general.

I have great respect for a coach that can ingrain discipline both in training and on the field to play the game and not get drawn into rubbish like trying to start fights and carrying on like turkeys, instead of getting on with the job at hand which is playing as team whether you are winning or losing. I think that discipline is a lot harder to coach and anyone that can round up a bunch of teenagers and get them working like that is someone everyone should follow.

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Cool story bro

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Originally Posted by The Magician

Magic 13s defeat Olympic 5-1 in tonight's catch up fixture... Another red card in second half for Olympic makes it 3/3 for them in the derby round... Can they go 4/4 tomorrow night in the 14s fixture.

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I saw the first half of that game as well with my kids in the rage cage. What has happened at Olympic 13s as they were disorganised and the positioning was non existant its like they were in school team and teacher generally does Maths. Do they have the same coaches as that disorganised play is not their usual standard from last seasons.

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Originally Posted by Retired01

I saw the first half of that game as well with my kids in the rage cage. What has happened at Olympic 13s as they were disorganised and the positioning was non existant its like they were in school team and teacher generally does Maths. Do they have the same coaches as that disorganised play is not their usual standard from last seasons.

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Ive seen them several times this year and they've been very good.Maybe just an off night?Magic 13s would have had a lot to do with that too,they are a very good team.

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Originally Posted by sapdad

Ive seen them several times this year and they've been very good.Maybe just an off night?Magic 13s would have had a lot to do with that too,they are a very good team.

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From what I was told by one of the parents was that Olympic play several very fast wingers and strikers and in recent weeks have found it very easy against opponents to knock it through or pass long and get loads of goals.
Last night they faced a Magic team with 2 very good centre backs (both rejected Jets spots) and a right back who would have been MOM so it didn't work for the most part and the team failed to adapt.

Olympic will probably score the most goals this year but are going to find it tough against well drilled defences like Magic or Jaffas.

Top 4 this year in 13's for mine:
Magic - Jaffas - Olympic - MNC

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Originally Posted by The Magician

Wow, you don't watch much First Grade then, happens in about 2 out of every 3 games.

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Kool story bro but we are talking youth in the youth thread. Being a manic tragic supp I wouldnt expect too much common sense.

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Originally Posted by KITZ

I have great respect for a coach that can ingrain discipline both in training and on the field to play the game and not get drawn into rubbish like trying to start fights and carrying on like turkeys, instead of getting on with the job at hand which is playing as team whether you are winning or losing. I think that discipline is a lot harder to coach and anyone that can round up a bunch of teenagers and get them working like that is someone everyone should follow.

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well said.

I think the Youth are doing pretty good job at doing this remembering they still are physically competing and they are teens. :shock::shock:

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Originally Posted by Aegon

From what I was told by one of the parents was that Olympic play several very fast wingers and strikers and in recent weeks have found it very easy against opponents to knock it through or pass long and get loads of goals.
Last night they faced a Magic team with 2 very good centre backs (both rejected Jets spots) and a right back who would have been MOM so it didn't work for the most part and the team failed to adapt.

Olympic will probably score the most goals this year but are going to find it tough against well drilled defences like Magic or Jaffas.

Top 4 this year in 13's for mine:
Magic - Jaffas - Olympic - MNC

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They paly with a fast striker and wingers and kick it long? They will never compete with the top teams if thats the coaching they are getting which makes a bit of sense as I saw the old Topor Stanley kick off last night from the Jets bad old days and if the ball is not in our half they cant score. Who is the TD and coach there now?

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Originally Posted by Retired01

They paly with a fast striker and wingers and kick it long? They will never compete with the top teams if thats the coaching they are getting which makes a bit of sense as I saw the old Topor Stanley kick off last night from the Jets bad old days and if the ball is not in our half they cant score. Who is the TD and coach there now?

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No,they attacked the spaces in behind teams that played high with effective through balls,not long ball.They moved the ball well and controlled possession when I watched them.They are coached well.

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Originally Posted by sapdad

No,they attacked the spaces in behind teams that played high with effective through balls,not long ball.They moved the ball well and controlled possession when I watched them.They are coached well.

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Olympic simply out coached

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Originally Posted by The Magician

Olympic simply out coached

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Doesnt surprise me.Both those blokes JDL teams were always 2 of the better teams to watch.The fact they are now working together is a fantastic opportunity for the kids who are playing for them.

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Originally Posted by KITZ

too complex for you?

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Yeah I’m not woke enough

When is the Youth going to change format?

The top 4 or 5 teams arent being challenged for more than half of their games. Winning by more than 6 every week is a joke.

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Originally Posted by Retired01

They paly with a fast striker and wingers and kick it long? They will never compete with the top teams if thats the coaching they are getting which makes a bit of sense as I saw the old Topor Stanley kick off last night from the Jets bad old days and if the ball is not in our half they cant score. Who is the TD and coach there now?

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It's not a bad plan A but there needs to be B, C, D as well.

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Originally Posted by Oldy

Parent or clubman.

tbh the edgy 13s are going better than thought after a couple of better players jumped ship last year. Although they havent played the top teams yet.

I thought Charlie had better youth. Maybe an off weekend.

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Can I be a parent who is a clubman? Or must
I be one or other?

Edgy are doing great in all grades. From where we were to where we are trust me things are getting better. Check every grade, kids playing up an age, kids getting better. Ain’t about results. About the future.

Is there a emoji for me ripping off my shirt and bashing me chest?

Magic 14s 4... Olympic 0... been a while since someone dusted Olympic in all Youth grades...

Over the 4 games Olympic got more red cards than goals scored, wonder what Sportsbet was paying for that.

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Originally Posted by terry

It's not a bad plan A but there needs to be B, C, D as well.

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Bumped into friend of mine at Speers Point last night who has a boy in JDL at Olympic and talk is the 13s coaches ruined the 13s last year and the club wont change it as they have ties to the club. They are now ruining this years 13s and club ignoring it and he reckons Olympic wont run top 4 in 13s this year either. The chat made sense to me after seeing a bit the other night and I wont go into full detail as he is too close to the source but siad they are losing kids from some grades already due to coaching.

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Originally Posted by The Magician

Magic 14s 4... Olympic 0... been a while since someone dusted Olympic in all Youth grades...

Over the 4 games Olympic got more red cards than goals scored, wonder what Sportsbet was paying for that.

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I was at speers point and it wasn’t the result that was the most shocking. Olympic had no style of play whatsoever except hoof it and try to win the scraps. Magic were dropping back to half way to encourage them to play football but they still refused to even entertain the idea. These are talented kids so it’s not like they don’t have the ability

Olympic probably struggling now they don’t have the NET lifeline that used to send the better kids there. And it’s getting expensive to play JDL and NPL so the commission house kids take up footy and cheaper sports. Not being smart but let’s be honest Football is a rich man’s sport these days. The better your kid is the more expensive it is to play and the worse the coaching gets from what I’m seeing.

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Originally Posted by TRUMP TOWER

Olympic probably struggling now they don’t have the NET lifeline that used to send the better kids there. And it’s getting expensive to play JDL and NPL so the commission house kids take up footy and cheaper sports. Not being smart but let’s be honest Football is a rich man’s sport these days. The better your kid is the more expensive it is to play and the worse the coaching gets from what I’m seeing.

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Geez, Trumpy in with the truth bombs. I dont think Olympic are in too much bother but improvements do need to be made.

As for coaches, it seems that the more coaching tickets we hand out the more confusing the curriculum becomes to coach.

Housos have always played footy so no change there.

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Originally Posted by terry

Geez, Trumpy in with the truth bombs. I dont think Olympic are in too much bother but improvements do need to be made.

As for coaches, it seems that the more coaching tickets we hand out the more confusing the curriculum becomes to coach.

Housos have always played footy so no change there.

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Trump is here to drop the truth bombs 💣

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Originally Posted by KITZ

I enjoy the fact you think you are telling us things we haven't heard a million times before. again. Clubs do often help kids that need it in many ways, but I'd imagine the club doesn't go around publishing it as it also then singles those same kids out as being different, and its also something parents would likely keep to themselves as well.

You think people are going to go around telling people they are getting a free ride, because they can't afford to pay, or have specialised payment plans? Just because YOU don't know about it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

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What are you on about ya gala, payment plan or not it’s expensive.

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Originally Posted by KITZ

Is that why their 16s left to play 18s at cooks hill? I'm not sure I buy into your optimism.:popcorn:

Everyone says its about playing up when results aren't going their way. But both Maitland and Magic (I believe Magic has a 14 year old in their 18's as well) have kids playing up across the board and haven't fallen off the table. I think magic seems to have improved this year from last as well from what I can see so far in a couple of age groups.

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Personally I don't have a problem with kids playing up if they are good enough.
It should always be the best against the best.
As for a 14 yr old playing 18's, the kid must be an exceptional talent or the quality of the 15 & 16's yr olds at that club are poor.
If the kids talent warrants playing 4 yrs up, WHY isn't he in the Jets program?

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Originally Posted by travellingman

Personally I don't have a problem with kids playing up if they are good enough.
It should always be the best against the best.
As for a 14 yr old playing 18's, the kid must be an exceptional talent or the quality of the 15 & 16's yr olds at that club are poor.
If the kids talent warrants playing 4 yrs up, WHY isn't he in the Jets program?

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Turned it down because it’s a clusterf**k

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Originally Posted by BS detecor

Turned it down because it’s a clusterf**k

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But his since wanted in but knocked back. Go figure

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Originally Posted by jim wallis

But his since wanted in but knocked back. Go figure

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Because it’s a clusterf**k

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Originally Posted by travellingman

Personally I don't have a problem with kids playing up if they are good enough.
It should always be the best against the best.
As for a 14 yr old playing 18's, the kid must be an exceptional talent or the quality of the 15 & 16's yr olds at that club are poor.
If the kids talent warrants playing 4 yrs up, WHY isn't he in the Jets program?

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Only players turning 15 or above in the calendar year allowed to play up in 18s or above. It was 16 year olds until Jets academy caught out not complying so they changed it a few years ago. So kid can only be playing maximum of 3 years up.