Put a seat on it - Cycling Thread

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Originally Posted by boz-monaut

I'm all for the lifetime ban, I'm all for stripping him of his titles and I'm all for preventing sporting's greatest fraud from being in the public eye ever again - there's no way in hell he'd have fessed up, apologised or even called off his lawyers from suing those who exposed him if he hadn't been caught

he deserves to be remembered as the biggest **** in sport, ever

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i only have a problem with the lack of consistency in punishments dished out to other either admitted, or proven, cheats.
Contador and Landis seemed to get off way lighter than Armstrong. I have no problem if they all got lifetime bans. But to me Contador, Landis and Armstrong are guilty of exactly the same things.
to use your analogy Boz, it would be like Contador and Landis stabbing a ref in an All Age match at national Park vs Armstrong doing it at a World Cup Final (held somewhere with a slightly bigger capacity than National Park).
More people are witness, and "affected" but the crime is still the same innit?

comparing Contador's positive test with Armstrong's lifetime of systematic doping is a bit of a stretch

but yes I think Contador got off very lightly for what he did, as do quite a large section of the cycling community

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Originally Posted by parksey

a ban from pro cycling would be fair enough considering he doped for 10 years, but not even being able to run in a local marathon is just a joke.

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The thing I don't like is that Armstrong, while obviously guilty, will be where they stop with the investigations. Everyone of that era (except the sh!t kickers in each team) was doped up to the eyeballs. To me, for USADA or UCI to gave any credibility in this, they need to keep digging and out everyone. Let it be known who the few clean riders were. Out the doctors who are still in the sport who were behind it. Out the team managers who condoned the doping.

The big question to me is, did these riders dope because they wanted to, or because the team told them to. I suspect for the majority it was the latter. A case of, hey take this, inject this or p!ss off and find a career outside of cycling.

Doping was (I hope its not still the case, but I am not convinced) so ingrained in the sport I really believe its those who were running the teams that need to be looked at.

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Originally Posted by sammydog

The thing I don't like is that Armstrong, while obviously guilty, will be where they stop with the investigations. Everyone of that era (except the sh!t kickers in each team) was doped up to the eyeballs. To me, for USADA or UCI to gave any credibility in this, they need to keep digging and out everyone. Let it be known who the few clean riders were. Out the doctors who are still in the sport who were behind it. Out the team managers who condoned the doping.

The big question to me is, did these riders dope because they wanted to, or because the team told them to. I suspect for the majority it was the latter. A case of, hey take this, inject this or p!ss off and find a career outside of cycling.

Doping was (I hope its not still the case, but I am not convinced) so ingrained in the sport I really believe its those who were running the teams that need to be looked at.

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lol...the numpties i should imagine

The thing that upsets me most about the whole Armstrong cheating saga is not the doping, it's not the lying, nor the bribery or intimidation.

its the blatant short cutting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtZhG2kWVLY

worlds greatest cheat shows how to do it properly

i think the real question here is how long will it take before hunter stadium names the western stand the lance armstrong stand

alright back to cycling, not cheats

geraint thomas took the win on stage 2 of the TDU today with a great climb up the corkscrew and a top sprint. he's looking pretty good.

gerrans and gilbert caught in a stack, pretty much wipes them out

so many g's, ain't nothing but a g thang

cyclocross world champs this weekend

http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2013/0...nship-preview/

will be live on da internets early sunday morning and delayed on eurosport on monday

http://www.youtube.com/ucichannel

There will be a cyclocross series in Newcastle this year. Can't wait, just wish I had a bike to race with.

surely you could cobble something together that could do the job, you have to carry the bike most of the way anyway :rof:

Would feel like a fraud on a mtb, and the carbon roadie I don't think would go the distance (mind you thats a good excuse to suck at the racing).

I think its time to sell some old stuff to finance a cheap CX bike.

good excuse to get yerself some steel

Well, Steel is real.

just missed this - was watching it and forgot about it when i went to lunch :(

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/121058735...#ht_500wt_1322

$41 with the BB as well is an absolute steal

also kind of trying to supress the urge to buy this

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Italian-M...#ht_559wt_1307

the uglier the better, if i could find a lampre fondriest i think i would cry

How does one ride with no wheels?

imagination

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Originally Posted by sh10

How does one ride with no wheels?

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it all depends on what drugs you're on...

tour of flanders was pretty good racing, cancellara majestic

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Originally Posted by q-money

tour of flanders was pretty good racing, cancellara majestic

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What about Sagan on the podium?

http://images.smh.com.au/2013/04/01/...AN-620x349.jpg

ledge

Ive said this before, we need to have a group ride, preferably ending in beer.

Anyone keen?

I've been off the bike for a little while so I will be hanging off the back.

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Originally Posted by sammydog

What about Sagan on the podium?

http://images.smh.com.au/2013/04/01/...AN-620x349.jpg

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not much sagan there :gent:

cancellara :cool:

Super fabu :)

giro del trentino. sky pulled out a team trial with an average speed of 55km/hr. that is just nuts. flat course, but that is still a "wow" from me.

Big one day race on tonight if anyone interested on Eurosport.

Don't ask me to pronounce it but it was very French in name

Stage 2 of the Giro Del Trentino is up first in italy, cadel is riding in this one. Some quality in the feild for this race which is the lead up to the Giro d'Italia.

Then end of the Fleche Wallonne is up later on in Belgium.

good to see sky are still duds in the classics

the high-altitude training is a total fizzer

Fleche Wallonne >> Watched that last night.

Belgians couldn't get the pictures on TV right. Last 15kms were just basically like photos rather than video as the camera footage was jumpy as all shit. Drove us nuts.

All set up by BMC for Gilbert but he blew it with Katusha Dainel Moreno stepping out of Joachim Rodriguez's shadow and jagging the win and riding away from Gilbert on the last climb near the line

giro starts in a week...mon

the chrono is where it will be won and lost, 55K jeez - will test out wiggos new climbing ability and see if evans has totally lost his edge after last years disastrous season

i hope he hasn't, for all his absolute weirdness there's something quite compelling about the bloke, just piles on the hurt

wiggo proves himself to be a big wuss who can't ride a bike downhill

evans and nibali can scoot away for fun on the descents, proper GC contenders

has been bloody excellent racing, everyone is popping everyone at any chance they get. sky without rogers and porte is a totally different beast

uran and henao should be let go, uran is super strong

watching the stage from last night, the descent around 50km from the finish looks like a LOT of fun. 80km/hr speeds, bit of air over the bumps, loads of curves, no traffic coming the other way. brilliant.

for sure, they are absolutely hammering it

Anyone get to the cyclocross at the Velodrome on mothers day? Scrambling now to find a way to get a CX bike and join the fun.

Just stuck a few frames up for sale to aid the process.

really keen to get to the next one, looked bloody brilliant

moar cowbell!

Had a friend fly up from Melbourne to race, bringing a Van full of people next time. Apparently there will be bands next time as well. not to mention more cow bells.

how great is it that some of the greatest cycling races just seem to go "wide roads? why the hell would we need them?"

looking forward to the time trial tonight. probably zero chance of staying awake until evans and nibali head off.

spew before the finish line, ahahah

woo! 3 minutes to go till evans starts. i can do this! :)

talk of cancelling the big climbs over the next two nights due to adverse weather. :(

ride like the wind cadel!