2016/17 Squad Thread

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Originally Posted by lquiquer

According to McKinna on twitter:
"One chinese player in the squad gives more media coverage in China"
"sponsorship and awareness for Newcastle and the Hunter region"
"sponsorship from China and from australian companies wanting to move to China"

I myself not convinced of any benefits

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Martin Lee has used the Jets as a way to promote himself and his companies in Australia.
I already own a football team in Australia why don't you let me start up a [fill in the blanks]
Not unlike the Tinkler situation we had a few years back.
To bring in a 3rd rate Chinese player Martin Lee will do more damage than good.
If the Chinese player fails he will drag the team down both on and off the pitch. if he succeeds then the Chinese people will be saying the A-League is piss weak because this bloke was a complete failure in China and yet is going well in Australia.


Glad I'm an Adelaide supporter.

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Originally Posted by Jeterpool

I'm not seeing them joinging is all about contributing on the field. Rightly or wrongly, it's about increasing our exposure and support in China.

People in China are streaming and viewing our games. This player will sell shirts. This could also help attract more sponsors from overseas into our club.

The Chinese player is more than simply what they will add to the squad. And I think there's a good chance they could add something to the squad. They aren't a kid (27) and they have been playing in Portugal 2.

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The Chinese player hasn't managed to crack it in the 2nd tier of Chinese football. His presence at the Jets sends a message to the Chinese that the A-league is weak and anyone playing 3rd tier or so in China will be more than good enough to make it in the A-league. The only reason he played 2nd tier in Portugal was because he was dropped into a team by Martin Lee. He wasn't there on merit, he was there because Martin Lee forced him into the team. No surprise that his old team aren't crying foul that he's left.
I hope he transforms under Aussie conditions and proves the doubters wrong but I wouldn't be holding my breath.

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Originally Posted by The Dunster

The Chinese player hasn't managed to crack it in the 2nd tier of Chinese football. His presence at the Jets sends a message to the Chinese that the A-league is weak and anyone playing 3rd tier or so in China will be more than good enough to make it in the A-league. The only reason he played 2nd tier in Portugal was because he was dropped into a team by Martin Lee. He wasn't there on merit, he was there because Martin Lee forced him into the team. No surprise that his old team aren't crying foul that he's left.
I hope he transforms under Aussie conditions and proves the doubters wrong but I wouldn't be holding my breath.

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i think everyone needs to ease up a little!!. the Chinese development player wont be forced on the coach. Everyone is coming to their own conclusions about the new owner, his wealth has been earned by his business smarts, (not digging up a hole in his backyard) - he needs the time to work the club out first to see where money can be made and lost he isnt going to walk in and start throwing cash everywhere.

i think having the chinese player in as a development player is a great initiative and hopefully we will have a similar scenario on the other hand with a player of ours going to china for the experience. Alot can be learnt from the different cultures in terms of preparation and mentalities.

plus the player needs to be watch first before you can determine his merit or not. how are we to judge him when he hasnt even been seen play.?.?

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Originally Posted by white city

i think everyone needs to ease up a little!!. the Chinese development player wont be forced on the coach. Everyone is coming to their own conclusions about the new owner, his wealth has been earned by his business smarts, (not digging up a hole in his backyard) - he needs the time to work the club out first to see where money can be made and lost he isnt going to walk in and start throwing cash everywhere.

i think having the chinese player in as a development player is a great initiative and hopefully we will have a similar scenario on the other hand with a player of ours going to china for the experience. Alot can be learnt from the different cultures in terms of preparation and mentalities.

plus the player needs to be watch first before you can determine his merit or not. how are we to judge him when he hasnt even been seen play.?.?

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You might like to read this:

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New sponsor of Portugal's second-tier ProLiga divison backs down on plans to make teams field Chinese players
Portuguese second tier will be rebranded as Ledman LigaPro next season
Ledman plan to send 10 Chinese players to the league's top 10 clubs
Chinese players were set for 'minimum usage rate' to ensure they played
But Ledman have now backed down on that part of the sponsorship deal
Three coaches will also join LigaPro teams to 'enhance Chinese players'

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...-division.html

So if you think this Chinese player won't be forced into a starting role you are deluded.
I'll be ordering the large popcorn to watch this shit unfold.

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Originally Posted by white city

i think everyone needs to ease up a little!!. the Chinese development player wont be forced on the coach. Everyone is coming to their own conclusions about the new owner, his wealth has been earned by his business smarts, (not digging up a hole in his backyard) - he needs the time to work the club out first to see where money can be made and lost he isnt going to walk in and start throwing cash everywhere.

i think having the chinese player in as a development player is a great initiative and hopefully we will have a similar scenario on the other hand with a player of ours going to china for the experience. Alot can be learnt from the different cultures in terms of preparation and mentalities.

plus the player needs to be watch first before you can determine his merit or not. how are we to judge him when he hasnt even been seen play.?.?

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You can't call a 27 year old a development player ffs

The gunners did the same "business strategy" by signing Inamoto. Helped shirt sales in Japan, pre-empted future tours to Asia, Asian tourism advertising started popping up at Arsenal games.

Man Utd did it to, thry had a Korean player, we had a Japanese player - both got named on the bench - neither made the pitch, but at the time I think the game was the highest tv audience of the time.

Football is business now, and we are owned by a business.


We'll be a laughing stock if he's shit, like Arsenal were with Inamoto, but we could very well laugh all the way to the bank.

And... We are already a laughing stock, what's to lose? Our dignity??? We wear gold and colours based on the local rugby league side FFS.

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Originally Posted by GazFish35

Man Utd did it to, thry had a Korean player, we had a Japanese player - both got named on the bench - neither made the pitch, but at the time I think the game was the highest tv audience of the time.

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Manure have almost always tried to have an Asian player. It seems to have faded out a lot since AF left though.

I thought Arsenal signing El-Neny was purely a move to appease all the Egyptian fans but it turns out he's actually a handy player.

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Originally Posted by halo se7en

I can't make any sense of it whatsoever

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I mean you asked a question about the Jets then you typed this sentence like you forgot for a second it was the Jets.

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Originally Posted by GazFish35

The gunners did the same "business strategy" by signing Inamoto.

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Wouldnt so bad if we got the equivalent of an Inamoto

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Originally Posted by GazFish35

Football is business now, and we are owned by a business.

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Sounds alot like....bendover and let them do what ever they want.

Bit like whats happened to the country. Every other bastard owns us and reaps the profits.

But anyway lets get our heads back in the sand and dont rock the boat. carn chinaJets

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Originally Posted by pv4

Manure have almost always tried to have an Asian player. It seems to have faded out a lot since AF left though.

I thought Arsenal signing El-Neny was purely a move to appease all the Egyptian fans but it turns out he's actually a handy player.

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coulda told you that re El-Neny

Checked out the intra club trial this morning, would appear Duncan is the #1 keeper at this point in time. Kokko got a goal but appears a little off the pace in terms of sharpness. Was quite impressed with Vujica at LB, held his own against Nabbout, very tidy technique and strong in defence. He will push Cowby but then again Cowby can always switch to RB too. Young Antonee Burke stood out too, don't think he lost the ball or gave a stray pass and provided a bit of finesse and skill. Think we will be seeing him too sooner rather then later, even if it is just off the bench.

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Originally Posted by GazFish35

The gunners did the same "business strategy" by signing Inamoto. Helped shirt sales in Japan, pre-empted future tours to Asia, Asian tourism advertising started popping up at Arsenal games.

Man Utd did it to, thry had a Korean player, we had a Japanese player - both got named on the bench - neither made the pitch, but at the time I think the game was the highest tv audience of the time.

Football is business now, and we are owned by a business.


We'll be a laughing stock if he's shit, like Arsenal were with Inamoto, but we could very well laugh all the way to the bank.

And... We are already a laughing stock, what's to lose? Our dignity??? We wear gold and colours based on the local rugby league side FFS.

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That's the big picture Gaz that likes of Dunster, hawk and others can't seem to grasp at this stage.
This is all about making connections and relationships; Chinese players and coaches will be coming here, young players here in the Hunter before too long will have the opportunity to go to Portugal to train with clubs over there and earn valuable experience.
This is just the beginning.
The same most probably would have happened if Stephen Thompson from Dundee had taken over. Daresay he would have demanded a Dundee United player come here to experience the A-League and to start some sort of player program between the two clubs. I believe this sort of relationship had already been discussed in preliminary discussions.
Bottom line is, Martin Lee is pumping money into this club and if he wants a Chinese player to play here, he will get a Chinese player here whether we like it or not. As this point in time, this issue is way down on what I think are "priorities" for this club.

My fear is the big picture dos st include long term positives for us, only Lee.

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Originally Posted by stopper2

That's the big picture Gaz that likes of Dunster, hawk and others can't seem to grasp at this stage.
This is all about making connections and relationships; Chinese players and coaches will be coming here, young players here in the Hunter before too long will have the opportunity to go to Portugal to train with clubs over there and earn valuable experience.
This is just the beginning.
The same most probably would have happened if Stephen Thompson from Dundee had taken over. Daresay he would have demanded a Dundee United player come here to experience the A-League and to start some sort of player program between the two clubs. I believe this sort of relationship had already been discussed in preliminary discussions.
Bottom line is, Martin Lee is pumping money into this club and if he wants a Chinese player to play here, he will get a Chinese player here whether we like it or not. As this point in time, this issue is way down on what I think are "priorities" for this club.

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From Twitter:
"Josh Mitchell Verified account 
‏@Joshy_Mitchy
If they sign the player I saw in the trial game then I believe they should be criticised.Can't fit my frustrations on the issue into a tweet"

it's not looking promising .........

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Originally Posted by stopper2

That's the big picture Gaz that likes of Dunster, hawk and others can't seem to grasp at this stage.
This is all about making connections and relationships; Chinese players and coaches will be coming here, young players here in the Hunter before too long will have the opportunity to go to Portugal to train with clubs over there and earn valuable experience.
This is just the beginning.
The same most probably would have happened if Stephen Thompson from Dundee had taken over. Daresay he would have demanded a Dundee United player come here to experience the A-League and to start some sort of player program between the two clubs. I believe this sort of relationship had already been discussed in preliminary discussions.
Bottom line is, Martin Lee is pumping money into this club and if he wants a Chinese player to play here, he will get a Chinese player here whether we like it or not. As this point in time, this issue is way down on what I think are "priorities" for this club.

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whoa hold the phone there simon. 1 Chinese player isnt the big picture.

I can just grasp this terribly difficult concept but I cannot accept being held over a barrel again like we did with the fat fk in the unlikely event of getting a better financial model. There is no a guarantee of any success or financial well being. 1st we lost a pretty good coach and now our playing roster is being forced. What next?

Imo We will survive with or without chinese overlord. I find it difficult that supporters will tolerate this.

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Originally Posted by hawk

1 Chinese player isnt the big picture.

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Not only 1 chinese player, but one unknown,unproven,nobody Chinese player........If we signed the Chinese Cahill maybe yes I can see the benefits but Ma Lei Lei ???!!!! hope he proves us wrong but....

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Originally Posted by GazFish35

My fear is the big picture doesnt include long term positives for us, only Lee.

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Im thinking this too

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Originally Posted by stopper2

before too long will have the opportunity to go to Portugal to train with clubs over there and earn valuable experience.

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my man stopper2 is on the money once again.
Remember the well oiled machine that was Kaz Patafta that came to us via Porto?

Bloke won us a title etc etc etc.

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Originally Posted by plague

my man stopper2 is on the money once again.
Remember the well oiled machine that was Kaz Patafta that came to us via Porto?

Bloke won us a title etc etc etc.

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Benfica sir ^^... Benfica....