Caulfield R5: 4 : Tosen Stardom: WIN : 20
Caulfield R6: 11 : Real Love : WIN : 20
Caulfield R7: 1 : Property: WIN : 20
Caulfield R8: 1 : Flamberge: WIN : 20
Randwick R7: 4 : Who Shot Thebarman : PLACE : 20
Printable View
Caulfield R5: 4 : Tosen Stardom: WIN : 20
Caulfield R6: 11 : Real Love : WIN : 20
Caulfield R7: 1 : Property: WIN : 20
Caulfield R8: 1 : Flamberge: WIN : 20
Randwick R7: 4 : Who Shot Thebarman : PLACE : 20
The Dunster
Caulfield R5: 1 : Black Heart Bart : WIN : 20
Caulfield R6: 7 : Tally : WIN : 20
Caulfield R7: 3 : Jukebox : WIN : 20
Caulfield R8: 5 : Sheidel : WIN : 20
Randwick R7: 9 : Winx : WIN : 20
jukebox was vetted this morning duns, dunno if he'll run
No worries - if he's scratched the favourite will do the job.Quote:
Originally Posted by q-money
GPS - AA02
Caulfield R5: 3 : Turn Me Loose : WIN : 20
Caulfield R6: 7 : Tally : WIN : 20
Caulfield R7: 4 : Pariah : WIN : 20
Caulfield R8: 2 : Fell Swoop : WIN : 20
Randwick R7: 7 : Tavago : PLACE : 20
****ing work is killing my KOTH chances, it's almost grounds to quit I think!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/o0dq8azaoe...02016.pdf?dl=0
the wolfman's reign of terror continues, q-man adrift in the ocean with the ghost of pilote d'essai
cannot believe i potted the magic man on Shiedel ffs, one of the biggest locks of the year, how did it go around at 7.3 ffs
http://i.imgur.com/LrDsGdq.png
We had the two surest things in racing on the weekend: Winx and Blackheart Bart at Caulfield. The payouts were not great - but still paying massive overs.
Place betting is a quick way to lose money. You have a third the chance but the average payout is a quarter or worse.
If you think a horse is a certainty to run a place you really mean it has a chance of winning - You should back it to win.
I've seen too many odds on pops go under at 1.5 to even entertain the thought of loading into them unless they are very special.
Winx yes, BHB possibly, but Bart was very, very close to going under to Tosen Stardom (he didn't, but it was squeaky bum time for a few of you on him i'm sure)
These affairs where Winx is trouncing the field don't come around very often - and make for very interesting betting angles around her, for mine. If you've done your homework (track/distance/conditions) there is money to be made. For the most part though, I agree with you.
For me - the exacta isn't a bad angle to play if you've marked up someone who's clearly on top and you don't want to make a huge investment into it. Dixie Blossoms case in point on the weekend. small field, wet track and you can knock out half of them as not good enough to win it in the conditions.
stood out DB into zanbagh/flippant/danish twist for $20 investment - nets $130.
of course it doesn't always work like that but i enjoy my arvos on the punt a bit more when they last for longer, rather than watching every short price fav i've loaded into end up in the sea
Quite literally, the difference between my total last week and yours was my decision to take the $3.70 about Whoshot Thebarman for a place, rather than the almost even money Winx to win as we knew she would.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
Where there's value in place betting, I'll always take it
It was a risky bet though - given that if Hartnell didn't get on the piss the night before you would have run fourth.Quote:
Originally Posted by WolfMan
In the long run betting on the win will make you more money.
The bookies love place and each way bets.
All bets are risky.
Anyway, not getting on my high horse (lol) just an alternative theory that so far has worked for me
holding fire for a bit before i put them up, i'm still doubtful if sydney will run as it is wetter than an otter's pocket down here
Gee they haven't had much luck this year down there have they!Quote:
Originally Posted by q-money
ok lads. i'm still doubtful sydney will run - so i'll split it into 2 separate meetings of 5 races (i.e. all of outside sydney), then sydney only as well because it is a great day of racing. if it gets canned then you can have a crack again for the monday fields, if it runs we have 10 races on the card for the week. same rules apply - 100 units for each racelist.
so fill out both - and if randwick gets shuffled to monday you can edit your choices
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Racelist 1:
Flemington R5 - Frances Tressady Stakes - https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2017-0...INGTON/FLM/R/5
Flemington R6 - Tab Rewards Stakes - https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2017-0...INGTON/FLM/R/6
Flemington R7 - Australian Guineas - https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2017-0...INGTON/FLM/R/7
Morphettville R8 - Lord Reims Stakes - https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2017-0...TVILLE/MPH/R/8
Ellerslie R9 - NZ Derby - https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2017-0...ERSLIE/ELL/R/9
Racelist 2:
Randwick R1 - Riesling Stakes - https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2017-0...NDWICK/RAN/R/1
Randwick R2 - Todman Stakes - https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2017-0...NDWICK/RAN/R/2
Randwick R5 - Canterbury BMW Stakes - https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2017-0...NDWICK/RAN/R/5
Randwick R6 - Hyland Challenge - https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2017-0...NDWICK/RAN/R/6
Randwick R7 - Randwick Guineas - https://www.tab.com.au/racing/2017-0...NDWICK/RAN/R/7
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Racelist 1:
Flemington R5: NUMBER : HORSE : WIN/PLACE : STAKE
Flemington R6: NUMBER : HORSE : WIN/PLACE : STAKE
Flemington R7: NUMBER : HORSE : WIN/PLACE : STAKE
Morphettville R8: NUMBER : HORSE : WIN/PLACE : STAKE
Ellerslie R9: NUMBER : HORSE : WIN/PLACE : STAKE
Racelist 2:
Randwick R1: NUMBER : HORSE : WIN/PLACE : STAKE
Randwick R2: NUMBER : HORSE : WIN/PLACE : STAKE
Randwick R5: NUMBER : HORSE : WIN/PLACE : STAKE
Randwick R6: NUMBER : HORSE : WIN/PLACE : STAKE
Randwick R7: NUMBER : HORSE : WIN/PLACE : STAKE
Degenerate pv4
Racelist 1:
Flemington R5: 7 : Deja Blue : WIN : 20
Flemington R6: 5 : Grande Rosso : WIN : 20
Flemington R7: 1 : Prized Icon : WIN : 20
Morphettville R8: 10 : Sir Laszlo : WIN : 20
Ellerslie R9: 5 : Highlad : WIN : 20
Racelist 2:
Randwick R1: 2 : She Will Reign : WIN : 20
Randwick R2: 5 : Khan : WIN : 20
Randwick R5: 1 : Chautauqua : WIN : 20
Randwick R6: 4 : Dal Cielo : WIN : 20
Randwick R7: 11 : Harper's Choice : WIN : 20
WolfMan
Racelist 1
Flemington R5 - 8 : Diamond Baroness : WIN : 20
Flemington R6 - 8 : Sadaqa : PLACE : 20
Flemington R7 - 1 : Prized Icon : WIN : 20
Morphettville R8 - 7 : Tunes : PLACE : 20
Ellerslie R9 - 12 : Charles Road : PLACE : 20
Racelist 2
Randwick R1: 6 : Star Senasation : PLACE : 20
Randwick R2: 2 : Veranillo : WIN : 20
Randwick R5: 7 : Ugo Fosolco : WIN : 20
Randwick R6: 4 : Dal Cielo : WIN : 20
Randwick R7: 9 : Malaise : PLACE : 20
Excuse my ignorance, but how is Prized Icon entered in Race 7 at both Randwick and Flemington?
will definitely run in melbourne, if the sydney meeting gets moved to monday they may accept him and enter on the quick backupQuote:
Originally Posted by WolfMan
The Dunster
Race List 1
Flemington R5 - 8 : Diamond Baroness : WIN : 20
Flemington R6 - 5 : Grande Rosso : WIN : 20
Flemington R7 - 4 : Hey Doc : WIN : 20
Morphettville R8 - 3 : Jim's Journey : WIN : 20
Ellerslie R9 - 2 : Savile Row : WIN : 20
Racelist 2
Randwick R1: 3 : Frolic : WIN : 20
Randwick R2: 4 : Invader : WIN : 20
Randwick R5:4: Music Magnate : WIN : 20
Randwick R6: 9: Felines : WIN : 20
Randwick R7: 14: Invincible Gem : WIN : 20
PC14
Racelist 1
Randwick R1: 2 : She Will Reign : WIN : 20
Randwick R2: 4 : Invader : WIN : 20
Randwick R5: 2 : Le Romain : WIN : 20
Randwick R6: 2 : Redzel : WIN : 20
Randwick R7: 5 : Comin Through : WIN : 20
Racelist 2:
Flemington R5 - 4 : Manageress : WIN : 20
Flemington R6 - 5 : Grande Rosso : WIN : 20
Flemington R7 - 5 : Morten's Fork : WIN : 20
Morphettville R8 - 3 : Second Bullet : WIN : 20
Ellerslie R9 - 2 : Savile Row : WIN : 20