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And he signs.Quote:
The Hunter Ports Newcastle Jets have signed Socceroo David Carney for the remainder of the 2013/14 Hyundai A-League season.
Carney joins the Jets after most recently playing for New York Red Bulls in Major League Soccer (MLS) in the United States.
The versatile 30-year-old, who has been capped 48 times for the Australian national team, said he was excited to be returning to the Hyundai A-League to play with the Jets.
“I’m very happy to have signed with Newcastle and I’m really looking forward to getting out on the pitch and playing some games,” Carney said.
“I’ve got a lot of hunger to do well for this Club and my main focus is to work hard and make a positive impact.
“I’ve had a little bit of a break since the MLS playoffs finished and now I’m ready to get back into it, help the team finish the season strongly and hopefully qualify for the finals.”
Carney last played in the Hyundai A-League for Sydney FC, making 38 appearances for the Sky Blues and scoring seven goals.
The Macarthur Rams junior then had stints in England with Sheffield United and Norwich City, before switching to Dutch side FC Twente, whom he won the Eredivisie title with in 2009/10.
Carney returned to England for the 2010/11 season, making 11 appearances for English Premier League outfit Blackpool.
Stints at Spanish second-division club AD Alcorcon and Uzbekistan’s Bunyodkor followed, before Carney linked-up with fellow Socceroo Tim Cahill in New York.
Newcastle’s interim head coach Clayton Zane said the signing of Carney was a fantastic addition to Jets’ squad.
“We’re very pleased to have signed a player of David’s calibre,” Zane said.
“He’s played at the highest level for Club and country and he’ll bring a wealth of experience and leadership to the team.
“You’re always looking for natural lefties and David’s a versatile footballer who can play anywhere down the left flank, which is great for the balance of squad.”
Carney will commence training with his Newcastle teammates at Ray Watt Oval on Tuesday morning.
Do we have his ITC?
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Originally Posted by Thomas477
Nope so no doubt the Jets are already flogg'n Carney shirts.
no I dont think an ITC is needed as he is a free agent. NYRB contract was over, however worst case is the MLS sends an ITC through. As there is no contract dispute or anything I cant imagine there being any issues.
No issues, except his ball watching.
Any ideas on his levels of fitness??
Not knocking the signing of Griffo but it is a shame we are still waiting on him to get fitness levels up to a level needed to play 90 mins in the HAL
Carney's lay off from the MLS concerns me as to what his fitness may be.
It is good the club are bringing players in at this time of season but we really need to be signing blokes who can actually play 90 mins NOW not in a few weeks time
Agreed.
I don't understand why he has only been signed until the end of the season. I'm assuming it will take about a month to reach full fitness, by which time there will only be a month or so left to play.
Maybe it is because they want to give the new coach freedom to build their own team, but I hope the club has at least worked on a new contract for next season.
Maybe it was the rest of this season or he wouldn't sign - might not have been our doing? At least if he finds some form, we'll kind of have first dibs when it comes to him signing a new contract. I don't see any disadvantage to the Jets in this instance, or with Griffo. The club has already plummeted down the table, so they can't really make it worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by militiamon
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Originally Posted by militiamon
With Carneys track record of not actually playing much club football giving him a long term deal would be foolish. To give HSG credit the end of the season is plenty. My main concern is his fitness. To me he needs to be at a level to be able to play next weekend and get through at least 70 mins minimum. Otherwise we will have 2 blokes on the bench who are building fitness (Griffs suspension pending) and another bloke in Bridges who isn't good for long spells either
Fair points halo and MFKS.
As I said in the other thread, I do really rate this signing. If him and Goodwin can form some kind of partnership on the left, oh boyyyy....
Didn't he play right mid/wing for Smurfs back in the day??? May be that may be an option alsoQuote:
Originally Posted by militiamon
Carney to use his NYRB contacts to get Timmy next season. :fap:
One can only dream.
I didnt know that Carney and Verschelden knew each other.....
Timmy V in behind Griffo and Tagz geez that would be a sight for sore eyes.
No offence Timmy.
I think the Carney signing can be a very astute one.
I am assuming that he is in for Mitch Cooper on an injury contract?
http://www.theguardian.com/football/...ield-conundrum
good article on the jets tactics from last weekend. too long to repost here, plus too lazy to reformat it myself :D
Good read....Cheers
I wonder if PV4 will relocate his 5 a side activities here once built or continue patronising the Gypos??Quote:
A MAJOR football centre proposed for Speers Point could be built before the end of the year, the deputy premier believes.
Deputy premier Andrew Stoner announced a lease to create 10 five-a-side synthetic courts and two international-size synthetic football fields at Speers Point Park during a visit to the Hunter today.
The lease will give Northern NSW Football long-term control of the Crown Land site, Mr Stoner said.
The $11.3 million proposal is a partnership between Lake Macquarie City Council, the state government, Northern NSW Football and Macquarie Football.
It gained council approval late last year and is earmarked as a potential training ground for Asian Cup sides next year.
Construction is due to begin in the next few weeks, a council spokeswoman said,
According to the deputy premier, the centre could be operating by the start of the International Children’s Games in December.
‘‘I’m told that it’s right to go within about nine months,’’ he said today.
‘‘I’m sure [the centre] will contribute to the development of future champions who will compete on the world stage.’’
Northern NSW Football chairman Bill Walker said the fields would make the Hunter a gathering point for the state’s football faithful.
‘‘It’s not only for the Hunter region, it’s for the 50,000 players who are registered with us,’’ Mr Walker said.
How these pricks can say the MRP process isn't ****ing flawed is beyond me.Quote:
FOOTBALL Federation Australia officials hit back yesterday at what they labelled ‘‘unwarranted criticism’’ from the Newcastle Jets after the suspension of Joel Griffiths.
Griffiths was banned for two games on Monday for verbally abusing referee Ben Williams after the full-time siren in Saturday’s 2-all draw with Wanderers at Hunter Stadium.
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Jets officials decided on Tuesday not to appeal against the penalty and ordered Griffiths to have counselling at his own expense.
But chief executive Robbie Middleby was quoted in a newspaper report yesterday complaining about the judicial process, asking: ‘‘Why are clubs denied the right to make submissions on their player’s behalf prior to the [match review panel] making their recommendation for a suspension?
“And how can the [match review panel] be truly independent in this case when they have two ex-referees on their three-man panel and the only evidence they are considering is the referee’s report?”
The report said Middleby had been told there was no avenue available for Griffiths to argue his case and the FFA had knocked back a request from the Jets to arrange a different panel.
“We just believe the whole process could be a lot better and less regimented, and it’s something the FFA should at least investigate,” Middleby was quoted as saying.
In a media statement issued yesterday, the FFA reaffirmed its commitment to the match review panel system and defended the integrity of panellists after ‘‘unwarranted criticism by the Newcastle Jets’’.
“The MRP system is designed to strike a fair, sensible and proportionate balance between the demands of running a professional competition and providing clubs and players with an opportunity to be heard,” A-League boss Damien de Bohun said.
“The Hyundai A-League is one of the few leagues in which a red card can be overturned and an automatic suspension waived under the obvious-error provision.”
FFA said the match-review panel comprised one former FIFA referee, one former Socceroo who played professionally in Australia and abroad and one member who was a national league player before becoming a referee.
“The MRP is ideally composed of people with a range of football experiences who work independent of FFA,” de Bohun said.
“Any assumption as to how individual members approach cases based on whether they are a former referee, former player or a former player/referee is uninformed and has no foundation in fact.
“A club has no knowledge of the deliberation of individual panel members, nor should they because it’s an independent review that produces a collective outcome.”
For the ‘‘purpose of clarity’’, the FFA media release addressed issues the Jets raised in a five-point list.
The statement noted:
■ The match review panel ‘‘is not a judicial body’’ and ‘‘does not impose or hand down suspensions’’ but merely proposes sanctions.
■ The panel ‘‘does not rely solely on the referee’s report’’ but also reviews all available TV footage.
■ Every player ‘‘always has the right to a hearing at which he can make a submission. A player is not denied natural justice. He can choose to accept the MRP proposal or reject it and have a full hearing with legal representation before a judicial body chaired by a Senior Counsel’’.
■ In the instance that a player elects to have a full hearing before the judicial body, any decision is made ‘‘from scratch after seeing and hearing all the evidence’’.
■ Griffiths and the Jets ‘‘chose not to take this course. The club has accepted the player was at fault and in fact has decided to impose its own additional sanction’’.
■ FFA ‘‘categorically denied’’ a statement on the Jets website that said: “FFA advised [the Jets] that it was highly likely the penalty would be increased at a hearing”. Instead, Jets officials were ‘‘correctly advised that at a hearing the disciplinary committee decides any additional sanction itself and in doing so may take into account a player’s prior disciplinary record’’.
In a final broadside, FFA said the A-League disciplinary system had undergone major reviews in 2008 and 2011 and minor adjustments each year and ‘‘all clubs and the Professional Footballers Association’’ were asked for input.
‘‘In the past two seasons, the post-season review has attracted a total of four submissions from three clubs across the two years,’’ it said.
‘‘FFA will conduct its annual review at the conclusion of the 2013-14 season.’’
Middleby did not reply when offered the chance to respond to the FFA statement.
A-League referees boss Ben Wilson travelled to Newcastle yesterday to discuss any concerns the club had relating to the performance of Williams on Saturday night.
Jets striker Adam Taggart said yesterday that Griffiths was remorseful about the dramatic end to his first game since leaving the club five years ago to play in China.
‘‘He’s disappointed and he’s obviously apologised,’’ he said. ‘‘Look, we’re all emotional in the game. We were all probably thinking the same thing. I didn’t even know what was going on at the time and Joel wears his heart on his sleeve, so I think he was just emotional. Everyone gets emotional, and sometimes you just can’t control yourself, I guess.’’
There is no right of appeal without suffering a greater fate.
The fact they sent the referees boss up to see the club says to me the **** ****ed up. Hopefully we slipped him the paper bag to get some decisions this weekend
Isn't this the same as any judicial process. If your are found guilty of a crime and sentenced but don't agree with that sentence appeal it, the right to appeal doesn't guarantee that you will get off. It all depends on how good your argument is.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Issue is the way the MRP works is they are a law unto themselves. The punishment is set and if you want to argue it you are getting longer.
The whole system stops you arguing your case as the rewards are not there as the odds are stacked against you.
Take Tiago Calvano's suspension for the manhandling of a ref. FFS?? All those weeks for that??
They had a case to argue the penalty was excessive but were never gonna be allowed to win so choose to accept it.
The whole system is wrong wrong wrong
This is probably where league handle it well, where the Match Review Committee sites the player and they come and argue their case BEFORE the ruling is handed down.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
League isn't much better. They have a grading system and most of the time it is in the players interests to take a Guilty plea as they avoid suspension where fighting it could risk a week on the sidelines regardless of any mitigating circumstances.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
Moral is if they want to argue their case they NEED to be ALLOWED to with out a system in place to DISCOURAGE them from doing so.
Basically the whole system is designed to SHUT THEM UP FROM COMPLAINING
Don't like the grading system, meant more generally the process of being cited and then appearing before to argue.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Who remembers Jim Comans - Griff woulda got 18 months !Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
What's the club going to appeal?
Isn't everyone in agreement of what was said and who said it?
What's the grounds for appeal?
I thought it was pretty straight forward.
Good idea questioning their integrity though Middleby, can't wait to see the next Jets bloke up for suspension. Probs get life.
That's it really...what is there argument going to be...Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
Jets: "he didn't hear the full time whistle"
MRP: "can't see that in the rule book"
Jets: "heat of the moment"
MRP: "can't see that in the rule book"
Jets: "he's been in China for 5yrs and forgot English"
MRP: "same rule in china"
Jets: "ah come on we'll be your friend"
MRP: "extra week for wasting our time...learn the rules"
End of...
he should have said it in ChineseQuote:
Originally Posted by redwah
"He told the truth"
most refs are shite but you cant have players abusing and manhandling them
我不会说英语Quote:
Originally Posted by joel31
I'd have been more disappointed if Griffo had said nothing to Williams.
If people can't accept Griffo as he is they have a problem not him.
In a world where people are politically correct arse lickers it's refreshing to have someone like Griffo tell it like it is.
Hail Griff.
I accept him how he is and I've served a suspension or two for some similar outbursts but I didn't get paid to play so missing multiple weeks wasn't a waste of what little money the club has. I want him on the park, not watching from the grandstand count his cash.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
redwah wont last long here, too logical.
Where did he man handle the ref??Quote:
Originally Posted by seldom
What was said is the issue here. Was it worthy of 2 weeks??
Hope to see the same consistency from the officials on the other 9 HAL teams yet know we won't
Griffo has been victimised
If its all about what was said, then shouldnt Kevin Muscat be sitting in the stands after a minute of every single game??Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Look at teams like Man U (yes, I know its a bit different in the Premier League), but every decision against them and you have 8 blokes surrounding the ref calling him every swearword under the sun..
Heart - Perth in Albury!!!???.. in February / 3pm / 42 degrees!!!.. Gallas to wear his Germany06 cap during the game / a dozen drink breaks....... FFA out
Tony S has given them a full broadside too.
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An enraged Tony Sage has called for Sunday's clash between Perth Glory and Melbourne Heart in Albury to be called off with temperatures in the NSW border town forecast to hit 42 degrees.
Glory's outspoken owner said the 3pm (AEDT) fixture would place player's "lives at risk" and was in danger of breaching FFA's own Wet Bulb Globe Temperature index – the system it has adopted to determine whether it is safe to proceed with matches as the mercury peaks.
Turning the blowtorch on Football Federation Australia over what he labelled a "ludicrous and ridiculous" decision to schedule an afternoon kick-off "in a stadium in the middle of nowhere", Sage declared: "God knows why this game was arranged in the first place … it should not go ahead to protect the players and match officials.
"Will it take somebody to die on the field for FFA to act? Going over there is an absolute nightmare for us and the game makes no sense whatsoever.
"I can see a situation where FFA will be forced to postpone it, which is right. But what would that then say about the league?
"I am staggered as to who in their right mind would come up with the idea of playing a game there? Not only that, the same person then picked us to fly across the country to be a part of it.
"If it had to go ahead then it should be have been scheduled for a 7pm kick off and FFA should have a chosen a team located in the east of the country to provide the opposition.
"Everybody knows it's incredibly hot in Albury (situated on the NSW-Victoria border) at this time of year, so why go there?
"I am sure nobody will turn up to watch it – and even if they do they will be huddled into a tiny stand that holds 1500 people."
The A-League is set to institute its heat policy for the match, which will mean a drinks break in each half.
Glory was involved in a spat with FFA after its 1-1 draw against Adelaide United in November, claiming the 32 degree heat at the 2.30pm kick-off time put players' welfare in peril, with several suffering vomiting, headaches, sunburn and excessive weight loss after the encounter.
FFA insisted the game was played in conditions that were "acceptable", according to its Wet Bulb Globe Temperature gauge.
"FFA follows a heat policy that was developed and implemented by the FFA Head of Medical Services, Dr Jeff Steinweg and which is consistent with the American College of Sports Medicine's Position Statement," Head of A-League Damien de Bohun said at the time.
"This policy is guided by the Wet Bulb Globe Temperature (WBGT) which takes into account the air temperature, humidity, wind, and radiation to provide a more accurate indicator of the risk of heat related injuries."
But Sage insisted: "I suspect conditions on Sunday will be unplayable, even under the WBGT guidelines. If FFA don't cancel it then it will be on their heads if a referee or any players succumb to heat exhaustion. The fixture really is an absolute joke."
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/news/...r-Albury-clash
We played Nux in 45 degrees, pussies....
And we still lost !