2015 NPL Youth

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Originally Posted by Why Blue

All this talk of funds/not enough funds just makes me wonder about the use of $11 million to build NNSWF facility at Speers Point..........given that only a handful of "elite" players are going to be able to use the majority of the facility we need to ask what if some of that money was distributed amongst the clubs. Imagine if each NPL club was given say $500k ( still only $6mil to all NPL licence clubs ) to spend on upgrade to their facility, drainage, sheds etc. Then it is possible that NNSWF might have say 10 excellent facilities available for them. Then many players could benefit.

I know...............stupid thinkin................best NNSWF keep it all for them............they do such a good job..........................

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Elite players??

Make no mistake about it Speers Point will be the new training facility for the Jets paid for by NNSW and NSW State Governments.

Now that is great work by the club to get that to happen

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Originally Posted by MFKS

Elite players??

Make no mistake about it Speers Point will be the new training facility for the Jets paid for by NNSW and NSW State Governments.

Now that is great work by the club to get that to happen

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My understanding is that the new facility will be used for W League Jets, Emerging Jets and Macquarie Football only. Not Jets ...........and nor it should.
I also understand that schools that have previously used grounds at Macquarie have been told to look elsewhere............which is wrong, I thought NNSWF were administering the development of football for ALL in their area.

There will be of course the commercial entity Football 5's that will be running a business out of the govt funded complex..............let me check who owns that ?????

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Originally Posted by Why Blue

My understanding is that the new facility will be used for W League Jets, Emerging Jets and Macquarie Football only. Not Jets ...........and nor it should.
I also understand that schools that have previously used grounds at Macquarie have been told to look elsewhere............which is wrong, I thought NNSWF were administering the development of football for ALL in their area.
WE WILL SEE ABOUT THAT

There will be of course the commercial entity Football 5's that will be running a business out of the govt funded complex..............let me check who owns that ?????

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Originally Posted by mother theresa

who gives a crap- if you get monies or not, this forum is about NPL Youth.
all facilities are shit, and always will be, untill we improve the structure and running of the sport in NNSW F, untill then, shit facilities, double points- instead of playing the game , player point systems, minimal funding from councils, increased player regos, and shit results from the jets and there poor ownership whoas...
Lastly the Elite EJETS pathway, becoming a comical tragety, every year good players out, shit players in, and lastly consecutive poor results at Nationals...
Surely we see a bigger problem here????? or do we??????

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Aye MT, agree

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Originally Posted by mother theresa

who gives a crap- if you get monies or not, this forum is about NPL Youth.
all facilities are shit, and always will be, untill we improve the structure and running of the sport in NNSW F, untill then, shit facilities, double points- instead of playing the game , player point systems, minimal funding from councils, increased player regos, and shit results from the jets and there poor ownership whoas...
Lastly the Elite EJETS pathway, becoming a comical tragety, every year good players out, shit players in, and lastly consecutive poor results at Nationals...
Surely we see a bigger problem here????? or do we??????

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You know MT.................you are correct...............100%
Facilities are for the most part crap.............clubs with good facilities call off youth to save for seniors
Double Points...well that is just a farce.
Funding..........well you saw my idea..........maybe NNSWF should actually be assisting clubs................

But biggest problem is EJ program...............comical tragedy is probably best description I have heard.............
Results at Nationals for both 13 & 14's this year were terrible. Some with in the 14's actually believed they had a chance at winning.............but could not win a game, scoring 2 goals in 6 games. Thank god their late call up keeper got keeper of the tournament, results might have been worse.

Squads named for 2015 are very average at best. I think most people who spend time around NPL comp know that stronger players exist outside the EJ program

I believe that EJ squads have all now resumed training on a 4 night/ 3 night a week roster, 7 sessions a fortnight in oct .............but the stupid side to this is no GVE, no Taylor Reagan, U/15 squad had to be coached by a dad...........ffs, but who is to blame, NNSWF or the parents who keep lining up and paying big $$$ for what ????? but they do it no questions asked. U/14 squad might be exception.......with Craig Deans coaching them they will progress.

But why ever no one questions or is game to speak up for fear of hurting their childs chances nothing will change...............

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Originally Posted by mother theresa

who gives a crap- if you get monies or not, this forum is about NPL Youth.
all facilities are shit, and always will be, untill we improve the structure and running of the sport in NNSW F, untill then, shit facilities, double points- instead of playing the game , player point systems, minimal funding from councils, increased player regos, and shit results from the jets and there poor ownership whoas...
Lastly the Elite EJETS pathway, becoming a comical tragety, every year good players out, shit players in, and lastly consecutive poor results at Nationals...
Surely we see a bigger problem here????? or do we??????

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Could not agree more MT, you are 100% spot-on!

$1030 I heard for EJ girls fees, not sure if this includes travell to Sydney, probably not. Ayyone know what the EJ boys fees are ?

look out MT.............done got everyone agreeing with ya.......................must be talkin sense

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Originally Posted by mother theresa

who gives a crap- if you get monies or not, this forum is about NPL Youth.
all facilities are shit, and always will be, untill we improve the structure and running of the sport in NNSW F, untill then, shit facilities, double points- instead of playing the game , player point systems, minimal funding from councils, increased player regos, and shit results from the jets and there poor ownership whoas...
Lastly the Elite EJETS pathway, becoming a comical tragety, every year good players out, shit players in, and lastly consecutive poor results at Nationals...
Surely we see a bigger problem here????? or do we??????

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Just curious MT................. what would be your answer to rectifying some of the issues you raise.......

Not having a go............just curious, you seem to be there or there abouts with what is happening, you must have some thoughtsa on how to improve ???

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Originally Posted by Why Blue

Just curious MT................. what would be your answer to rectifying some of the issues you raise.......

Not having a go............just curious, you seem to be there or there abouts with what is happening, you must have some thoughtsa on how to improve ???

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Dont pick kids that shouldnt be there in the first place, look at U16 from last year, alot of them got in because of who they knew, now theyve been dropped, it was almost as if to get them in for a year to fill a void. One year in the NNSW/Jets system doesnt make them Jets, when theres a wealth of kids who have played NNSW from U11 up but now dont get picked or would rather play NPL.

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Originally Posted by GO AWAY

Dont pick kids that shouldnt be there in the first place, look at U16 from last year, alot of them got in because of who they knew, now theyve been dropped, it was almost as if to get them in for a year to fill a void. One year in the NNSW/Jets system doesnt make them Jets, when theres a wealth of kids who have played NNSW from U11 up but now dont get picked or would rather play NPL.

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Seriously how many are going to be Jets LOL ?. But hey its a wonderful title and it is right up there with Elite, Development and Academy as a license to print money.

It really is becoming a rort, when it is the best players up against the best players and not the best payers up against the best payers then i will come around to the concept.

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Originally Posted by mother theresa

apparently EJets boys up to $1800, to slush fund the Macquaire Football Empire- not the quality of coaching??

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Macquarie development squads had around 80 kids in the 10s & 11s couple years ago each paying $500 and on top that buy yr own jacket, shorts, socks. Only thing got given is screen printed T-shirt. Coaching was one guy per 11 kids, no bang for buck at all. Dunno if if it's changed now.

I wouldn't group Newcastle Football with Macquarie or the Jets, my experience with NF has been good, professional, caring, good coaching. NF won State titles in boys both age groups and girls 12, came second in girls 14s. Kids are coached to play football move forward, not pass back n forth to keeper and play out from goalkicks EVERY SINGLE TIME.

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Originally Posted by mother theresa

apparently EJets boys up to $1800, to slush fund the Macquaire Football Empire- not the quality of coaching??

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cant seem to get a match on this $1800 MT. Parents have been told min $1050. but have been warned about the need for a sink fund to cover costs of maintaining Speers Point Supa Facility. So possible bigger $$$$$

Now that some clubs are posting teams on thier web sites and most of us have an idea of how trials etc went. What are your thoughts on 2015 NPL Youth season.

Can comment on U/15's and it seems that clubs tried harder this year. In general it seems clubs will be stronger, Lakes getting distributed and Maitland coming in helped here.
Any thoughts or comments out there ???

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Originally Posted by mother theresa

as for the NNSWF sink fund, its been there for over 20 years, watch the space though it will increase.
As for NPL Youth in 2015, looking good for some, and the same for others- it will be a 5 team race in each age group.
Charlestown
Magic
Edgeworth
Olympic
EJETS
Weston will be in some age groups, the rest?

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Love these grand statements, will pull this up next year and see how your predictions went!

I will take the bait and bite - put Adamstown down for top 4 in 13s and 14s. 17s will be close again. The 15s will be a big improvement over last year. :woo:

Well the Buds 17s finished equal on points with the CCB's and both games between them were draws. Didn't CCB finish 5th ?

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Originally Posted by late_to_the_game

Love these grand statements, will pull this up next year and see how your predictions went!

I will take the bait and bite - put Adamstown down for top 4 in 13s and 14s. 17s will be close again. The 15s will be a big improvement over last year. :woo:

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I hope so, in fact I hope all teams improve, isn't that the aim.

but lets see, 13's well should go ok, took a whole team from Macquarie Development and a coach, but did you take the right ones ?????? me thinks not
14's did well as 13's so should continue
15's poor performance in 14's, but have added 2x ex Emerging Jets and few other changes, should be better
17's, well 15's were terrible this year so dont know what they can add to an average 17's squad, hopefully they recruited well and will be stronger.

so crystal balling semi's for 14's only......rest mid packs

Weston looking strong in most grades.

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Originally Posted by JCBT

Weston looking strong in most grades.

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good............

what happened in 15's..........lost kids to Maitland after being picked.............shame

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Originally Posted by mother theresa

Top 4 predictions
13's- Magic, Edgy, CCB and FMNC
14's- EJets, Magic, Edgy, Buds
15's- CCB, Magic, Olympic, Edgy,
17's- Magic, Edgy, Jaffas, CCB

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jeeeezzzzeeeee its happened again..........................think i have to agree with you MT

13's will be hard, I know Magic, CCB, Buds worked hard to get strong teams.........FMNC will be strong yes

14's ok but watch FMNC again

15's yep but EJ's will edge out Edgy..........haha

17's again close...maybe FMNC what about Weston............had strong 15's

bit of crystal balling

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Originally Posted by Why Blue

I hope so, in fact I hope all teams improve, isn't that the aim.

but lets see, 13's well should go ok, took a whole team from Macquarie Development and a coach, but did you take the right ones ?????? me thinks not
14's did well as 13's so should continue
15's poor performance in 14's, but have added 2x ex Emerging Jets and few other changes, should be better
17's, well 15's were terrible this year so dont know what they can add to an average 17's squad, hopefully they recruited well and will be stronger.

so crystal balling semi's for 14's only......rest mid packs

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I can't believe all this banter on NPL junior squads about where sides will finish and who will be strong etc etc. FFS they're only kids - let them just play and develop. Leave all your predictions for the senior NPL threads.

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Originally Posted by prawnhead

I can't believe all this banter on NPL junior squads about where sides will finish and who will be strong etc etc. FFS they're only kids - let them just play and develop. Leave all your predictions for the senior NPL threads.

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FFS yourself..............why cant Youth have same banter as senior ??????

its just a bit of fun.................FFS

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Originally Posted by prawnhead

I can't believe all this banter on NPL junior squads about where sides will finish and who will be strong etc etc. FFS they're only kids - let them just play and develop. Leave all your predictions for the senior NPL threads.

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I think if you talk to any of the kids at these age levels, they're not just playing and developing, it is very competitive. We're not talking about ID B grade or U6 small sided.
If you don't like this banter, then don't read this thread. I myself quite enjoy it.

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Originally Posted by mother theresa

r u kidding?
i dont give a crap about the seniors.
ok heres a prediction, stay on the senior site

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My god I am agreeing with Mother T......

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Originally Posted by late_to_the_game

My god I am agreeing with Mother T......

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I know................its catching.......................better find drs no...............quick

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Originally Posted by mother theresa

Hi everybody-
Dr Nick Riveria is the man

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your a funny man MT...............bloody hell...........world spinning

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlmECL2ED2I

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yup

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Originally Posted by late_to_the_game

Well the Buds 17s finished equal on points with the CCB's and both games between them were draws. Didn't CCB finish 5th ?

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CCB 17's finished in 5th but ?? Should have come 4th or higher !!!! Adamstown did not come equal points with CCB

Any player movements?
Gains and Losses for each team?

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Originally Posted by FMC

CCB 17's finished in 5th but ?? Should have come 4th or higher !!!! Adamstown did not come equal points with CCB

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Sorry, could not help myself.....

1 Hamilton Olympic FC 20 19 1 0 53 8 45 58
2 Broadmeadow Magic FC 20 11 3 6 43 34 9 36
3 Edgeworth FC 20 9 4 7 40 35 5 31
4 Lambton Jaffas FC 20 8 4 8 30 28 2 28
5 Charlestown City Blues FC 20 6 7 7 28 25 3 25
6 Adamstown Rosebud FC 20 6 7 7 33 32 1 25
7 Football Mid North Coast 20 8 1 11 32 44 -12 25
8 Weston Workers FC 20 6 6 8 21 21 0 24
9 Lake Macquarie City FC 20 6 4 10 25 49 -24 22
10 Emerging Jets 20 6 2 12 27 35 -8 20
11 South Cardiff FC 20 3 5 12 22 43 -21 14

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Originally Posted by FMC

CCB 17's finished in 5th but ?? Should have come 4th or higher !!!! Adamstown did not come equal points with CCB

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They would have finished higher had they won more than 6 games from 20. In fact, they lost more games than they won!

If they won more, they would've ended up with more points.





Where's captain obvious when you need him/her?

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Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung

If they won more, they would've ended up with more points.





Where's captain obvious when you need him/her?

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Attachment 888

here he is

You missed my point - most teams can say they should have finished higher, with a game or two that got away from them for whatever reason.

FMC seemed to be claiming Charlestown should have finished higher. My point was at the end of the day winning 6 from 20 is not a great result!

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Originally Posted by hamburgler

You missed my point - most teams can say they should have finished higher, with a game or two that got away from them for whatever reason.

FMC seemed to be claiming Charlestown should have finished higher. My point was at the end of the day winning 6 from 20 is not a great result!

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What about only losing seven from twenty ?

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Originally Posted by mother theresa

r we for real?
who gives a shit- they didnt make it, neither did FMNC
lets see next year, stop paying for the therapy sessions, because they missed out.
unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!: deadhorse:

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yep.........agree......................move on...............2015 season is upon us....................draw is out................

News in Newcastle Herald today that Jets are withdrawing funding for Emerging Jets Program for 2015 season. Thoughts ???

I think its the perfect opportunity for NNSWF to overhaul their "elite" programs and look at getting back to providing development for juniors thru the NPL comp that is in place and is where the elite play and should play. Imagine if they contributed some funds to clubs to assist clubs in developing youth ??? we would have a development program for approx 180 players in every age group 13'3 thru to 17's WOW.............


But problem is they are now bogged down with the new Football Facility and it needs to be funded..............so some sort of program will need to be implemented...........Eland admits that parents of elite players will need to contribute to ongoing maintenance etc of new facility..........so NNSWF need a "program" in which they sucker parents that thier elite kids needs to be part of and pay us big $$$$ so we can maintain our elite facility...........

And yes I know girls are effected by this but they have a WPL thread to post in

Interesting that Middleby is quoted as saying "I have made it clear to potential owners that the emerging jets has to be a priority going forward"

But for some reason they cant commit to funding themselves ??

Maybe a potential owner want to run their own professional youth program, with the real talented kids and the correct program's and coaching ??????

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Originally Posted by Why Blue

News in Newcastle Herald today that Jets are withdrawing funding for Emerging Jets Program for 2015 season. Thoughts ???

I think its the perfect opportunity for NNSWF to overhaul their "elite" programs and look at getting back to providing development for juniors thru the NPL comp that is in place and is where the elite play and should play. Imagine if they contributed some funds to clubs to assist clubs in developing youth ??? we would have a development program for approx 180 players in every age group 13'3 thru to 17's WOW.............


But problem is they are now bogged down with the new Football Facility and it needs to be funded..............so some sort of program will need to be implemented...........Eland admits that parents of elite players will need to contribute to ongoing maintenance etc of new facility..........so NNSWF need a "program" in which they sucker parents that thier elite kids needs to be part of and pay us big $$$$ so we can maintain our elite facility...........

And yes I know girls are effected by this but they have a WPL thread to post in

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Lets just hope if they are all filtered out in to the club system, they dont get prioritised over kids already selected for club sides, because, newsflash, half the kids in the club system are alot better then EJ kids. Some clubs have already put EJ kids that missed out straight in to teams, jumping above other kids, unfortunately they may have a shock coming.

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Originally Posted by GO AWAY

Lets just hope if they are all filtered out in to the club system, they dont get prioritised over kids already selected for club sides, because, newsflash, half the kids in the club system are alot better then EJ kids. Some clubs have already put EJ kids that missed out straight in to teams, jumping above other kids, unfortunately they may have a shock coming.

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Could not agree more Go Away.

It would be very poor form for any NPL club to expect loyalty to them and frown upon any player who trials elsewhere, then ditch those who have stayed loyal, accepted a spot for 2015, only to then be ditched for an EJ player, who is probably not a lot better than the player being displaced.

DISGRACEFUL if that were to happen!