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no ****ing idea why this is on at 5pm on a non public holiday at 5pm
unlucky like some peasants i only got the public holidays off and work 8-5
surely playing the game at 7.30 would have been more suited.
city starting to play some decent football, will probably jag it knowing us but.
Crowd figure will be interesting. How many have gone away? How many are working? How many staying at home to watch the cricket?
Optimistic jerks 2-1, mooy stunner followed by a remarkable own goal by chapman and then a very dodgy penalty converted by monty. Extremely dour contest otherwise.
Doomed.
Cricket score again.
As you were.
Are you coming to games again?Quote:
Originally Posted by BodyNovo
Agree the timing is off for a non public holiday. On a public holiday or weekend, leaving home at 3:30-4:30 for a 5 game is fine. On a working day, it creates all kinds of hassle.
Like Tommyjet said - the crowd figure will be very interesting. I'm anticipating 5k - I have no idea if that would be considered optimistic or pessimistic.
na not coming but just pointing out for the working plebs.Quote:
Originally Posted by pv4
We will play rubbish defensive football and concede a goal that some will argue was BK's fault in the 89th minute to lose 0-1.
Because not everyone works Monday-friday bodedawg. 5pm games are better anyways, earlier start for the day more time to enjoy a couple drinks afterwards. I myself have to work Wednesday night, Thursday night, Friday night & Saturday night this week (yep missing the gong away).Quote:
Originally Posted by BodyNovo
Looking forward to this one, Our record against the heart at home hasnt been too bad in recent seasons so I'm thinking we can get a 1 or 2-0 win here.
Yeah it's kind of frustrating, I'm lucky enough to have slightly flexible working hours (and be walking distance to the stadium) but I'll have to start at 6:30am tomorrow to give myself enough time to get there for kick off. I think 5k sounds about rightQuote:
Originally Posted by pv4
Wonder if Middleby will blame the poor crowds on the timing (which I'm sure he would have a say in) or results (he signed Stubbs)? Either way, we won't reach 5 figures in crowd.
Looking forward to watching Mooy, Koran and Duff play.
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Originally Posted by Thomas477
You reckon a club CEO has any sway over fox scheduling, for a midweek fixture?
He has no sway over anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by GazFish35
That's the problem.
The bloke can't influence anything
This is an all time record for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas477
Most 'straws clutched at' in one day.
Congrats.
:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Nail on the head here. I'm sure all the clubs were consulted at the start of the season and asked what your preferred day and times were (why we got so many sunday games in the past). A competent ceo would have requested that the game get pushed back by an hour or two. Given this isn't a catchup game, Middleby would've seen it months ago. You reckon Pignata would cop this?
But it doesn't matter either way, we won't reach 10,000 and we'll lose. Middleby will make another plea and/or an apology for fans to stick with this abomination of a "club". How we're not last is beyond me.
Plague: What straws am I clutching here? With a likely poor atttendence tomorrow, I was wondering what Robbie would say the cause is. All clubs receive a draft draw early before its finalised, so why couldn't Robbie request the game to be played later? And Robbie did sign Stubbs, didn't he?
What I will give Thomas is surely some heads should have been raised when the BR game is getting shown at 8pm, and it isn't uncommon for HAL games to be exactly 2 hours apart. There's no reason, on the outlook, that our game couldn't have kicked off at 6 rather than 5.
Regardless of what has been done so far, I'll be surprised if the FFA don't learn their lesson when they see a poor turnout for it.
The same Pignata who's club has been booted from their stadium for 7 weeks and now has to play at Woolongong?Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas477
Yeah, I'd say he would have copped it.
It's the blind assumption that he didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas477
The Brisbane v sydney game will get better ratings, so it gets the prime spot.
If our game kicks off at 6 fox potentially lose audience they don't get back when everyone switches over to ch10 at 7pm for the cricket. So they run our game at 5, santo for 1hr and then get the game between town capital city teams on at 8.
The jets have been chasing family friendly kickoff times for many years. And given the shit dished up on the field and the crowds we are still getting an argument could be made that it is working.
Granted a 6 kickoff means blokes at work can get to the game more readily..... but 5pm while the kids are on holidays, and a lot of workplaces are still closed down, there may well have been a trade off from a later kickoff to getting Friday night game at some other point of the season.
I know of at least 8 families heading down to game from up north simply because it's a5pm kickoff and the kids are holidays.
Rip him a new one all you want when there's evidence he's ****ed up (there's plenty of them to choose from) but to suggest he probably didn't even try to adjust the kickoff time, when we know two fifths of feckall about the sway tv has or the target market the club is chasing, or the ins and outs of that decision is ludicrous. There well maybe considerable data to suggest there's more people wanting a 5pm game time than any other.... Fox might have wanted a 3pm game for all we know.
Assuming the worst in people with no evidence seems to be the newcastle way.
Bk not training today according to twitter.
So, squad discussion. Mitch Hughes from NBN says to expect squad changes for this game after today's training.
I am thinking Kew for Madaschi is a possibility. Griffo definitely needs a rest so a swap with Neuman seems likely. A change in the midfield might freshen the team with Kanta or Caravan to swap for Carney or Cooper.
Also saying Kennedy did not train today so maybe Birraz gets a farewell game.
Isn't Captain Kew out for another game? Or has he already missed 3 games now?Quote:
Originally Posted by borat
Would like to see Cooper get a start... and is Lundy as good as joel31 rates him in FM?
What evidence can you actually provide the bloke actually knows what he is doing??Quote:
Originally Posted by GazFish35
It ain't a case of us wanting to kick the bloke cause we are struggling.
We have been progressively getting worse under this blokes alleged leadership in the last 4 years.
We are beyond the point of assuming the worst with no evidence. We are calling him incompetent based on 4 years of complete shite that is getting worse under his watch.
We had a game at this time of year a few years back where we had the 1 entire round in the day thing and we had a similarly shit time and the crowd suffered.
Surely that is enough evidence that this KO time is not suitable for our supporters and a competent CEO would be going into bat for his supporters who pay their money to support this club and have to alter their work plans to take in a home game or miss out cause we have a kick off on a midweek fixture at an hour of the day that isn't suitable to the vast majority of people who work a standard hours day.
All good and well people from up north coming down for the day but don't **** over the loyal fans who live in the Newy region who actually continue to support this shower of shite Middleby runs in spite of the shite he serves up
But it's all Tinkler's fault! It's not like the ceo of our club is running it, that's crazy!
I'm not arguing there isn't a mounting pile of evidence to suggest he's out of his depth.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
I'm arguing you can't add this kickoff time to that pile without knowing the mechanisms behind the decision.
For all we know fox could have wanted it at 4:15, or when the draw comes out he's argued for 10 other changes and this one was one he had to concede.
If you want to mount a case of examples of his incompetence and poor decisions at least do it with examples based on some knowledge about the factors influencing a decision.
FFS laLiga games kickoff at 10pm because TV stations at so. You think fox give a **** what any CEO wants.
The families travelling down from up here were just one example of how a 5pm kickoff might actually help some people get to the game.
For the record! None, but I've never claimed I do, just suggesting anything in the "evidence against" column should hold a little water. I even suggested in my previous post that I recognise there's a mounting pile of evidence to support your (and others claims)Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
As a man of faith I though you'd understand the possibility of believing in something with little evidence.
Public perception is a wonderful thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by GazFish35
Whilst Middleby says or does nothing on little subjects like this says a lot about peoples perceptions of him.
At least posture to the press and get the message out regularly to the punters you are trying to do this and that regardless of it is working or not.
At least people then think he is trying. Even if he is posturing behind closed doors without success get the story out there. FFS He has some degree of control over his clubs website/ Facebook page/ Ability to call some tosser from the Newy herald with a scoop etc
The bloke is epically failing at this game also.
He wants blokes like me off his case at least give me some bullshit from time to time that you actually are trying to deal with issues that see our club disadvantaged and not letting it go through on the public record as unopposed.
Bloke is that poor at this he actually does nothing to negate the blame being directed at himself
Nice troll 6/10 I give it :roflz:Quote:
Originally Posted by GazFish35
:lulzturtle:Quote:
Originally Posted by GazFish35
Thanks, I've never heard you give anyone wrap without a backhanded compliment.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
I'll take 6/10.
It'd be better than birraz's ratio of dealing competently with balls into the box!
I am only giving 3/10 for that effort :facepalm: Feel that you could do much betterQuote:
Originally Posted by GazFish35
In which match thread should I post uninformed, uninteresting comments?
This one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Couscous
Looks like I need to give Mr Fish a masterclass. Leave it to me Member.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
By the way Mr Fish had a great point about La Liga. Their TV station dictates to Barca and Madrid exactly when they are kicking off, usually on 2-3 weeks notice and at ridiculous timeslots (as mentioned). All of which to cater to the worldwide market, not the local fans. and the clubs get pretty much FA input. (look it up, its a big issue in Spain at the moment).
Why does the TV station get to do that to the 2 biggest clubs in the world?
cause they pay the bills bitchez.
get used to the way the world works.
Great isnt it.
your points are noted but as you said they are the two biggest clubs in the world and TV provides them the money to pay Missi CR7 Iniesta Bale their exorbitant wages.Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
Foxtel on the other hand have two of the shittest clubs in the HAL playing at 5:00 pm on a weekday which lets face it wouldn't get great ratings if it was given the best spot ever. They also pay peanuts so we have blokes like Gallaway Gallagher and Roundabout playing for us.
Our CEO has grounds for telling TV to **** off here and put it on at a reasonable hour where viewers and punters are not hampered.
FFS even Foxtel ratings will even be down with anyone who is neutral and who is batshit enough who wants to watch this game will most likely still be at work.
This is a situation where neither Foxtel or Jets actually are winning on
Most of our games are this, big dog town we are. We still get 11k at 7.30pm kick offs.Quote:
Originally Posted by BodyNovo
Management, get off the sausage and fix this
It is rather pertinent to note that for some reason Jets Gypos have a massive disproportion of home game 5pm ko on Saturday arvo compared to the other teams. Wonder how many Roar Victree Wankers Smurfs get and reckon between the 4 of them they would be lucky to match Gypos or jets tally singularly.Quote:
Originally Posted by hawk
Why our glorious CEO wants to play home games at any other time than night time is beyond me. We always draw well at 7:30pm Friday/Saturday night in spite of how shit we are
Santo sam and ed will outrate our game, fox say jump, clubs ask how high, how often and for how long.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Doesn't matter if fox pay peanuts and we get gallaway, while barca and real get messi and statue dude. TV pays the bills, just our bills are smaller, they still need to be paid.
And to your post above, regional teams don't rate on TV, so we get 5pm kickoff times.
Big city clubs get prime time games as they rate higher.
I'd be surprised to if the 5pm games aren't cheaper, less light tower use, less security needed due to lower levels of intoxication from drinking all afternoon and evening.
gee i would hope soQuote:
Originally Posted by GazFish35
is there a monkey joke in there? :whistling:Quote:
Doesn't matter if fox pay peanuts and we get gallaway
I understand the alleged reasoning behind big city teams getting the favourable treatment.Quote:
Originally Posted by GazFish35
Just another example of discrimination towards regional Australia and them getting screwed over for the big smoke again and again.
Shame this game is on so early, really.
I've organised for my second trip to outdoor cinema but unfortunately it doesn't start till 8:30pm. Might have to watch this shitfest.
Don't do it to yourself Grim!
**** modern football!!!!!!! stupid foxtel and a leagues 18 games in 18 days or whatever