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2016 NPL Youth
No parents allowed
Intelligence level of thread clearly set
What's the point ........obviously parents aren't allowed to comment on thier children
No parents ..........close it down now.....communist reds ...........
Early tips?? ? ?
Valentine youth to add value to compQuote:
Originally Posted by early_to_the_match
NBN to do a spin off of "Dance Mums" called Magic Mums......
Just their general lack of knowledge peas me off, piss in me pocket know it alls, just like you
Lucky all your knowledge helped Southy !!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
Would be happy to hear what you believe Southy bought to the NPL youth comp over the last two years ???
I'll start with my opinion, Nothing !!!!!!
Not one person to miss playing or spectating at Ulinga..........Quote:
Originally Posted by early_to_the_match
i will miss the centre of excellence!Quote:
Originally Posted by Why Blue
:shock:
Probs just need to stick to this being a NPL youth thread...not a disgruntled parents of kids who haven't made it to EJ system and have a chip on their shoulder thread.
ThisQuote:
Originally Posted by seldom
Interesting. How long have you played/served on the committee at Highfields Charlestown City Blue Azzurri Wolves for?Quote:
Originally Posted by Why Blue
CCB never, previous jnr club 4 yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
But don't see relevance in how this gives someone's comments more or less authority ??
In my opinion FR was/is a typical senior club official who detested giving time/facilities to youth and he certainly isn't on his own !!!
And then blamed exuberant parents !!!
Understand your sentiment ......but wrong no chipQuote:
Originally Posted by seldom
My beef with EJ program is simple.... Whilst ever NNSWF take money from any registration fee the program should not exist.......you can't spend under 6 fees on select few
So it should be free and a training squad only........easy
A lot is blamed on disgruntled parents, especially by other parents who have befriended or manipulated their way into the inner sanctums of the coaching/selection panels.
Disgruntled parents are the symptoms and not the cause of the problems that so readily exist in both club and EJ programs.
Let the coaches coach, but at least find some that have a reasonable idea about what they are doing.
Disagree. Southy as a club have always respected and given chances to young players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Why Blue
Their U19s team before all of this NPL YOuth stuff, was comprised of mostly 15/16/17 year olds which is something not many clubs were doing. Despite this, they only missed out once or twice on semi finals football over 10 years.
And look at their first grade squad, very young squad. To say they don't like Youth is ridiculous.
FR's posts in the early days were spruiking that the focus should be on development and players progressing through the teams and eventually into seniors. He/she was saying that there is far too much emphasis on winning and win at all costs attitude is not necessarily the best environment for development. Which I agree in some respects is accurate.
Southys poor results in NPL Youth can be attributed to their location and club profile imo.
Many kids coming through interdistrict competition don't even know South cardiff is a club separate to cardiff. The first time I played southy I rocked up at cardiff. Didn't even know they existed, let alone had senior teams in NPL/NBN back then.
So those players playing in the local area would be more inclined to join the popular clubs of olympic, magic, valentine, Lake Macquarie and even edgeworth and charlestown have more drawing power. For me that's the issue more than anything.
But, id like to know why you claim he detested youth and giving them time?
You're basing an awful lot on comments made on this site in response to some clearly delusional posters. Yeh, there are some very intelligent and thoughtful posts made here regarding structure and aims of this competition but there's also a load of dickwaving and disgruntled people bringing everyone down.
Please stop, your knowledge is letting you down again, I did what I did and would do it all again, 22 years of happy service, happily retired now, last comment from me on this parent threadQuote:
Originally Posted by Why Blue
Have seen plenty of people do things for 22yrs and longer......don't mean they are good at itQuote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
From my experience plenty if kids came thru southy as juniors but all left before NPL youth and none went back
Now scattered between quite a few NPL clubs
Most parents claimed club/committe was a basket case and club was going no where..............Seems as though time proved them right
But hey well done on 22 years
:yay:Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverRed
finally
every club has 15,16,17 year olds playing 19's
again, your wrong
Southy's poor result blamed on location???????
That is officially the best 2016 statement i have heard, maybe Southy should move
:wtf:
Welcome 2016 look forward to a great year
Sorry forever man but Southy lost direction years ago
In 2009 southy had a pretty good 9A team, won comp from memory. By the time NPL Youth started not one of those kids played for Southy, despite 7 I think playing for other clubs in NPL
I have a good friend who is dad of one of those kids, he left Southy back in under 10's as he thought then that committe was dis interested in kids that age and guess what, was told by committe member that he was just a go getting parent.
Maybe if committe had shown some interest or initiative those kids would have stayed, others would have come to be part if a strong club OR you let them go, bloody trophy hunting parents
NPL Youth was not reason for Southy demotion, committe was,
As Blueman said just cause you do something for a long time don't mean your good at it
Cracker season has been some changes so always interesting to see how those will pan outQuote:
Originally Posted by early_to_the_match
Looking forward to it
Not talking about now.Quote:
Originally Posted by mother theresa
The statement was that they didn't care about Youth.
How many Juniors did Azzurri FC have when they were relegated? 0. Big fat 0. Thats why they were relegated. They merged with the junior club to meet the criteria and paid Jim Foley to bring a team together. Props to CCB though, they went from nothing and have some pretty handy teams. But saying Southy didn't care about Youth, is ridiculous.
Same with Lakes. 0 junior teams and they were relegated.
There are definitely clubs that treat their Youth teams worse than Southy. Over the years Southy invites the Youth teams to senior training, and to complete warmups with players.
But I'm curious. What evidence is there that they don't care about Youth?
9A? seriously? I played 3 premiership winning years at Belmont in U/8, 9's and 10s and moved to Warners Bay to play with friends.Quote:
Originally Posted by big jim
9 year olds play for fun. Change clubs for fun, discover rugby league. I would hardly blame the committee or anybody for a 9 year old leaving? what're they meant to do?
Which committee did he deal with? Juniors are separate to the NPL entity. Which is probably the biggest factor at play imo. Rectify this relationship and it breeds success.
People having a dig at Southy Committee really irks me. Have played for 2 NPL Clubs and Southy was by far superior than the former. Miles ahead. Committee respect their players and are not dictators.
Have had dealings with, and have heard from various teammates very very bad things about other clubs committee members.
Yes 9A seriously !Quote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
But I think you have missed my point and seemed to have jumped on the southy precious parent wagon
Which is that Southy have been losing juniors for years now, back in these age groups 9,10 & 11's macquarie had a development squad and kids still played with a club but macquarie wanted kids to play A grade, from what I was told parents approached Southy committee with this with a view to getting a few of the singles and two's from other clubs to come to Southy, yes building a strong team for sure but it goes on
Response I'm told was anti macquarie and basically told if they didn't like to go elsewhere so they did
Probably the Jnr committe but if senior committe stood by and let promising youth walk out the club it was always going to be at their peril
It's important to note the last sentence.Quote:
Originally Posted by big jim
The juniors and seniors may as well be separate clubs. Much the same as Lake Macquarie and Lake Macquaurie City.
I'm not privvy to the relationship between the two and my opinion would be biased towards the senior club.
From what you've said, regarding the club and macquarie situation, it definitely sounds like the junior committee which is definitely not the committee in charge of NPL.
For the future of Southy the 2 should rectify their differences and do what's best for the club as a whole.
I understand what you are saying but the Juniors have no interest in NPL and have heard they are quite stubborn regarding facility use/canteen things etc.
I don't believe your above experience is at all a reflection of the NPL committee.
Let's get back to NPL Youth
Plenty if good to talk about with out going over very old ground
What's ppl' thoughts on Valo ????
Have heard of some kids going to them, some back to them which is great
From what I've heard a few decent kids going there. A few CCb and Magic boys in 15s & 17s, should go ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by Why Blue
Valo to win 17'sQuote:
Originally Posted by hamburgler
strong side
Big early call there MTQuote:
Originally Posted by mother theresa
I knew a few from Magic 15's went there not sure who else though
Where did they come from ???
Did any 2015 15's CCB kids go there ??Quote:
Originally Posted by hamburgler
Thought most stayed ??
SouthyQuote:
Originally Posted by Why Blue
lol
Predictions:
13- FMNC
14- FMNC/ MAGIC
15- BUDS
17- VALO/ OLYMPIC
No idea, but the person I spoke to said 1 definite, maybe a second from 2015 CCB 14's gone to ValoQuote:
Originally Posted by Why Blue
Bit of a question for you guys.
I was thinking a little about Valo and how strong their youth used to be, almost on par with magic/olympic in the younger ages. And it got me thinking what should happen to NPL clubs who are relegated. I won't use southy as an example due to their poor results.
But I'll give you a hypothetical and would be interested in your opinions.
Say CCB get relegated. They obviously have some pretty handy youth teams in the NPL Youth. What do you think should happen to them? Do you think it's right that a club can set up such a program and player network and lose them all because their first grade didn't perform. So should they remain? Should they lose their spot? Should there be perhaps a 2 conference approach for all clubs with an NPL License?
I believe it is wrong, has been mentioned many times on this forum, current format only rewards 1st grade performance, so clubs concentrate on this and really who can blame themQuote:
Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung
I would like to see 5yr licences and 12 teams ( and so would NNSWF I think )
Also proposed changes to club championship, although imagine if a club was relegated after winning 1st grade and U13's poor performance cost them ???
CCB had a scare in 2015, with the prospect of your hyperthetical eventuating and they talked positively about the need for 1st grade to perform to protect thier investment in youth, problem is how do they do it ???
MT
Maybe very close
Predictions:
13- FMNC
14- FMNC/ MAGIC
15- BUDS
17- VALO/ OLYMPIC
I think 13's could see EJ's strong as well, good coach but is talent there and can he coach 12yo kids ??
14's really don't know
15's Buds should be strong with last years magic14 gf winning team
17's throw in Weston and CCB
Make it a requirement that both NewFM and NPL teams have youth teams, have the Youth split up into two leagues A and B with relegation and promotion between the two but based on a club championship rather than on just one of the leagues. Those clubs with strong junior sides from both NPL and NewFM will eventually find themselves in the A league while the rest will be in B league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Why Blue
If a club is relegated from NPL to NewFM they still keep their youth team which might actually be going well and encourages long term investment and a focus on youth development from the clubs.
I'm sure since this is different to what happens now I'll be told why this is the worse idea in football since Gareth Southgate said "I know what to do with my 12 million pound transfer budget buy that Alves bloke".
Is that where they ended up going?Quote:
Originally Posted by Why Blue
So I'm toldQuote:
Originally Posted by Goatscheese
Buds seem to do youth pretty well
So hopefully the move will be benificial for the kids
That idea works .....keeps youth in A or B based on thier performance not 1st gradeQuote:
Originally Posted by Goatscheese
Play off between A's & B's for promo and religation would be different for each grade ???
Would kill the NPL all teams play on one day that NNSWF seem to like
But defiantly fairer than current system