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When we are finally sold to the highest bidder what are people's thoughts on
1. what MUST stay,
2. what SHOULD stay,
3. What new things MUST happen,
4. What new things SHOULD happen.
5. Anything old that's gone, but MUST return.
6. Anything old that's gone, but SHOULD return.
7. Anything else you'd like to add.
I'm gonna compile them so the subcommittee have a series of broader views to present. So keep things realistic please.
Playing at a venue with a smaller capacity.
Playing in a predominantly Gold strip with touches of Blue and Red.
In the short term, what venue do you see as a genuine option?
Hunter Stadium until a suitable 15-20,000 seat venue can be built.Quote:
Originally Posted by GazFish35
So get the new owners to build a new multi million dollar stadium that we would be aiming to grow out of? I dont get it
I don't expect the typical Australian to get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boss
Truth is the 8-9k crowd we get quite regular is pretty soulless in the 33,000 capacity Hunter Stadium. Studies and examples from all around the world show that by having smaller football specific stadia actually increases demand for tickets and creates a more personal and enjoyable experience.
A smaller Football specific stadia heightens the atmosphere, along with having it in heart of the respective CBD improves the match day experience which is supported by local businesses before and prior to the game.
It didn't feel empty last week. Granted, we had the noise from RBB, but overall we only had 12,000 people. A Jets side playing decent football and consistently making the finals would regularly see at least 12-14k every week - I don't think our stadium is an issue. At least it's not Suncorp. And where on earth would you build a football stadium in the heart of Newcastle CBD??Quote:
Originally Posted by Premy
No.2, Athletics Feild, find a new home for the Croquet, Wickham Park.Quote:
Originally Posted by halo se7en
Yeah and picture a 12-14k crowd every week in a 16k capacity stadium? The place would be bouncing.
Look at Loftus Road, the place is buzzing every game because it's packed. Better example look at several MSL Clubs. Many of their Stadia are around the 20k mark and it creates a demand for tickets/Season passes.
The E&C needs to return same with the gold
**** off the blue and red forever
Those fighter Jets need to appear every game
The EJ program needs a massive overhaul.
We need some realistic goals. Team full of locals or a Gun side to win a comp.
Whatever it is get a ****ing plan and stop making it up as we go
Prices of tickets need to raise to realistic levels to fund the club
Supporters should be issued a hat each season in the shape of a Jet
With the current ownership of lack of a smaller stadium makes sense. However, when we get a new owner and can afford a team that will be finals contenders the club will have no trouble filling up the current stadium.
Once and for all we have to decide what our colours are going to be. I recall at the Forums last year that this was discussed and that for next season and beyond members would be having input into our colours. Can understand though with the dragging out of the ownership that this decision has been put on the backburner but once a new owner takes over we need to decide on what our playing colours are going to be and stick with them. We can't keep going on with this chameleon type existence because we lose our identity as a club.
On the stadium issue raised above, can't see the point in talking about it, I mean we have struggled for years to fund a football club in Newcastle so where are we going to get funds to build another stadium??? The state and federal governments injected funds to build the Western stadium because of the fact it was used all year round and the Jets showed that they could draw huge crowds just like the Knights. Can just imagine what the reaction would if we put forth a proposal to have our own stadium....not going to happen.
On that point also, we showed in the 06/07 and 07/08 seasons that a Jets side playing decent football and playing finals football will attract crowds of 14,000 minimum and up to 18-20k and over 20,000 for big game Finals. 12-14k is a very conservative figure, I daresay the growth of the game in the region in those 8 years since our heyday has been very strong with many more participants at all ages and levels, particularly in girls/womens. I really believe we have the potential to average over 16k if we have a club which this region believes in and a team which excites people and makes them want to come and watch.
Any Newcastle Jets team trying to fund its activities primarily on ticket sales will be doomed to failure. Prices need to be set to maximise sales not profits or revenues - that way you get the stadium full. With a full stadium you get corporate interest and with that you get sponsorship dollars. Moreover, you get an atmosphere that will lure players to the club - I would hope anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
DisagreeQuote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
I bought some tickets for games away V Roar Victree Gypos this week
I am paying well over $30 per match to go watch us lose.
Our Members are paying about $10 a game to watch us lose at Stade de Newy every week
Everyone whinges about the lack of personnel at our club compared to others. If our revenue is that small because tickets are not comparative to our rival maybe we need to raise them to appropriate levels to be more competitive on the pitch and across the club??
Not expect a magic team and club but contribute **** all out of our own pockets
Answers from an old guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by GazFish35
The fact you have typed these two things in the same post is hilarious.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
You obviously don't know how much $$$ it costs to get a fighter jet off the ground.
Once a year if we are lucky enough would be grand
Taxpayers $$ it costs anywayQuote:
Originally Posted by WolfMan
Bribe some bloke at the RAAF and "training flights" are organised on match days.
Not hard
If is wasnt for the $12 tix we would need cardboard cutouts in the stands to avoid embarrassment. where is that guy?Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Like most government departments, defence has a budget.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
Which is why you may notice increased flights around the EOFY, to ensure they use the entire budget.
Literally send planes up for fun
I'm sure Top Gun can organise this.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKS
In the pre-match it's time we got a new video to support NTUA. I think the current one is about 3 seasons old and has footage pf players scoring penalties FFS.
Surley the club can come up with an updated video that's a bit more exciting and inspiring than the current one?
1. what MUST stay,
Agree with the backroom staff. They have been with us through rough, shoestring times. Given a budget I'd like to see what they are really capable of.
The current community engagement program
The members sub committee, because despite not getting much credit for some off the off field fan activities there have been some excellent ideas and initiatives come from within the group.
2. what SHOULD stay,
3. What new things MUST happen,
A fan representative on the board
Start treating the emerging Jets program seriously by owning it ourselves and investing in it.
Develop our own "center of excellence" facility
Investment in the squad and utilise the cap exemptions so we can compete on an even playing field.
4. What new things SHOULD happen.
Regular fan engagement forums
5. Anything old that's gone, but MUST return.
I'll have to think
6. Anything old that's gone, but SHOULD return.
After match presentations
7. Anything else you'd like to add.
Don't be daft and take us for fools.
Just want it to happen!
I can just see us sitting by while other clubs are signing up the better players we could be at least in the running for while ffa reject possibly awesome owners for the sake of a few thousand or so.
Miller still sitting around not knowing if he will be kept on and if so, what his budget will be.
so jetsQuote:
Originally Posted by Tommyjet
Mate, i'm glad you're not involved in the sale. You need to remember what happened the last time they let 'anyone' buy us???Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommyjet
As someone said in the other thread, the last time Mr Lee out money into football he almost demanded to turn it into the Chinese Super League Reserve grade competition.
I don't care how many players we miss out on if at the end of all this we get an owner who builds us into a functioning footballing club who wins trophies.
for some its all about next season. for others its about the long term
Imagine though if we unearth the Asian Kale Bradbury.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
Member would be so happy, and that would make me happy.
I thought we already had the Asian Kale... isn't it called Pak Choi?Quote:
Originally Posted by plague
I mean that's a terrible joke but I love terrible jokes so please accept some dap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
Well played sir.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
:lulzturtle:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
Thing is no matter how long we wait the buyer will be tight ass and not buy good players so lets just get someone in and screw us again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
This is so true.Quote:
Originally Posted by hawk
Running any football club and youth programs for that matter can be a cut-throat business. Tough decisions need to be made all the time and invariably there is going to be a lot of disappointment whether it is a 15 year old being cut from the Jets program or a 25 year old being told he is not longer part of the Jets A League squad.
How you treat people can make a big difference though; you treat people with decency, honesty and respect.....you will get that respect back in return.
The club talks of engaging with the local community yet at the same time it has got so many people off-side and basically peeved off because of their treatment of players.
Just as an example look at the amount of players who have chosen to leave the Youth team in the last 12 months. If this was a positive, nurturing environment that makes the players want to be a part of, would they be leaving?
You would be hard-pressed to find someone who has spent a few years in the Emerging Jets/Youth program to say it has been a positive and enjoyable experience.
This is something which needs to be addressed and rectified under the new ownership.
Look no further than the peie running it
That to me where the problem lies.
Too many egos and no accountability has manifested it into the problem it is
What about a 22yr old whos mum is trying to get him into the jets?Quote:
Originally Posted by stopper2
hahaha i saw that on facebook as well was like wtfQuote:
Originally Posted by hawk