He's yet to win a game for us - should be sacked immediately
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He's yet to win a game for us - should be sacked immediately
#karlrobinsonout
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Robinson
The bloke from neighbours got the gig to coach us? A new low for the Jets :)
Run Carl. Run why you can
Clearly Carl is both broke and destitute and in seriously desperate need of an income to take on this abortion of a club.
Meh, it's not like he can make us any worse. And we are so bad that even if he never wins a game with us it won't tarnish his record too bad.
who's the bloke on the other side of him in each of the shots of him with Lawrie, is it an agent, an assistant or what?
Wrong CarlQuote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
That was meant to be the jokeQuote:
Originally Posted by lil_masi
lol, I was 50/50 whether you were taking the p**Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeterpool
It wasn't a very good joke, to be fair to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by lil_masi
Better Joke then the Jerks recruitment strategy
Allegedly, along with shit results, Robinson was turfed for a dodgy arrangement he had with an agent who he used to sign lots of players to join the Whitecaps.Quote:
Originally Posted by turbojetfireV8
That was, allegedly, the bloke sitting next to him.
David Baldwin is the name of the manager linked to Robinson when he was in charge at the Vancouver Whitecaps. Baldwin is the Owner of Avid Sports Group - and if you read the Squad thread - Avid control / manage the following Jets Players:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimario
Dimi Petratos
Kaine Shepherd
Kosta Petratos
Patrick Langlois
Makis Petratos; and
Nick Fitzgerald
Our entire front office needs to be shown the door.
Hahaha, ask lawrie
:popcorn:
I told you how this shit works in that threadQuote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
We are also gonna be at a loss going forward recruiting anyway
Bert would have had a pile of contacts in the game that were responsible for leading us to Vargas Jair Arroyo etc
That now gone
We now back to Gypo CEOs contacts in the game
We in a lot of regards should have went Sven as he would have the ability to speak with plenty around the globe in relation to scouting foreigners for us
I get where you are coming from but without knowing just how many A League players come under this mob relatively speaking it is hard to know for sure if that number is a over representation in regards to the Jets.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
There are some pedestrian footballers on that list however.
Here's the list:Quote:
Originally Posted by 380
https://www.transfermarkt.co.in/avid...a/berater/4959
We have 6 of them - other clubs one or two.
That is not the issueQuote:
Originally Posted by 380
You going to find large groups at each club managed by the same agent
Take those guys when Kosta and Makris Petratos got to age they needed a football agent it pretty obvious their first contact is gonna be the guy looking after big bro Dimi
Young guys like Langlois and guys like Shepphard coming from NPL are most likely gonna take a recommendation from whoever is they get on best with in the senior squad
So it No great issue we going to have many players represented
This issue lies with how much control that agent has over transfer and resigning and recruitment policies of the club
I backing knowing with things that have happened in the past with the Jets we are much more intimate with agents than we should be
The other agent with a lot of pull at the Jets is Tony Rallis - who is the person that brought Dimi to the Jets.
Dimi is with Avid / Baldwin .
it's all within the rules - but any market this concentrated as far as player representation goes will see clubs having little to nil countervailing power when it comes to contract talks.
Again - all within the rules but no wonder this club pay top dollar for shit players year after year.
The reason this is happening is probably because we don't have enough coin to conduct our own recruitment.
Lawrie gets rid of two of our best players and a Coach - then replaces them with a coach and players all represented by the same firm.
Coincidence obviously. Or is it simply a case of us not having enough resources to do anything other than rely on player reps for recruitment ?
Recruiting has been our achilles heel long before the gypo CEO and Marty Lee came along or even Griff for that matter. Other clubs in this league seem to do much better at leveraging contacts and there networks to cast the net much wider when looking to recruit players which yes Dunster makes your second point very much likely.
Its an area this club has really struggled with, The clubs who get this part of there list management right always seems to be the ones who have backroom staff with worldy experience and throughout there travels develop these contacts and relationships to find the right players.
What bothers me is that the club can somehow find the money to purchase players that aren't even good enough to get a run for a team running last on the table - yet they can't hire a full time scout to look for players.Quote:
Originally Posted by 380
I was reading Robinson was keeping tabs on european, central/South American players he wanted for his nxt gig.
Right up our alleyQuote:
Originally Posted by lil_masi
I can't help but feel that our new manager won't be confirmed until just before the transfer window closes.
That way the club can use the excuse of "no time for the new manager to find anything this season"
:rof:Quote:
Originally Posted by leftrightout
I reckon that's bang on the money!
Yeh but Lawrie said Ernie had money available to him, What he didn't say was it wasn't enough to buy a feed from the loose change menu at your local Maccas.
Jokes aside you will be correct Leftrighout and some will say that is ok for Martin to not provide those funds that could make a difference to how this season is panning out. Shame the bloke isn't Japanese, At least they have this thing about not looking bad personal shame etc. If Sage can afford to put a reasonable squad out pretty sure our bloke could to if he felt so inclined.
As for Carl perhaps he will see the light before signing his sanity away and jump on the first mode of transport available to Mascot and fly the f^&k out of here.
Dropped him off a Sydney Airport where a WSW car picked him up to take him to view the facilities.
Keep beating that dead horse 380. Coat that bat of yours in some subtle racism and beat that dead Chinese LED covered horse some more.Quote:
Originally Posted by 380
Side note, nobody else is offering Carl Robinson a gig elsewhere. There isn't much further to sink below the MLS, we are about as good as he's gonna get as well.
Didn't think it would take you long, Thanks for not disappointing champ.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo
Don't discount the area as being a big factor. Teams outside of Sydney and Melbourne always are going to have to work harder to recruit players. Most foreigners have only heard of those two cities, if even that. Newy has a really awesome lifestyle to sell, but it's not for everyone. Even Roy Keane once had a whinge because one of the players he was managing was being forced by his partner to move to London for the better shopping. I think that was even officially why McGree chose City over us, his mrs wanted the big city life?Quote:
Originally Posted by 380
Is it just me who thinks the longer this delays the more Carl rocked up, took a couple of looks at the a-league, and thought he isn't that desperate?
That why the Salary Cap has got to goQuote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
We be better off spending 100 to 200k a year on scouts to locate adequate players for us than pissing 3 million a year into wages because we got to meet KPIs to keep the PFA happy
It because we running this shit system that scouting is done by who people know and You Tube videos
Complete joke for a so called professional league that recruitment is done so poorly
Dont bother with Frodo. Digs deep to invent leftard outrage with race, gender, ethnicity etc. Doesnt help being a jealous frustrated Arsenal supporter.Quote:
Originally Posted by 380
Plus we dont have corporate $$ to compete with the big clubs on marquees and under table bonus. But if the cap is taken big clubs would bury everyoneQuote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
But you do realise the Salary Cap actually punishes the smaller clubsQuote:
Originally Posted by finzee
It forces them to pay 3 million for shit players instead of focusing on ways to be competitive by thinking outside the square we are forced to spend big money on average to poor players
Simple, keep the upper cap but remove the lower one.
I don't think Carl is out of the running yet. They probably need to organise a work permit / visa for him and things are just quiet until it gets sorted.
Alternatively as Tommyjet suggests Carl may have decided he's not desperate enough to coach this abortion of a club.
Might have looked at the task at hand, saw the *tools he'd have to work with both in the squad and behind the scene and walked away. Or asked for more money to take the hit on his resume.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dunster
*Intentional use of the term.