Just saw Newysports post. Pretty sure no club will allow them back to cover the division.
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Just saw Newysports post. Pretty sure no club will allow them back to cover the division.
holy shit
I'd let this guy into our club
this is why they often make sex offendors disclose to everyone they come into contact with
I am utterly shocked and horrified by this, although I don't know any more about this that I've read on that facebook post (which sounded like a suicide note to me)
and theres none of this 'he was a nice bloke' shit - he clearly wasn't, even though he may have pretended to be nice to those who trusted him
I always thought the bloke was just on the spectrum hence his social inept behaviour over the years. God was I wrong....
I’m just more stunned that the authorities were happy for him to run newysports. How many clubs allowed him access without knowing his inclinations and that he’d never pass a WWC check.
yeah same
I mean I feel like the way with that Jimmy Savile British nonce you'd take one look at him and clearly the guy's a pedo - how did anyone ever trust him?
how did we all mistake this for just awkwardness?
I'm not so upset about the concept of his deluded into thinking it was appropriate to cover sporting games but I am very upset at 1. His family/friends etc who knew his past history and 2. the authorities or whoever manages his activity.
It's like giving a crack addict crack and getting him to promise not to do anything with it.
yeah same - I think I met his mum back when I registered him and nothing was disclosed to me
I mean I'm pissed and disgusted and utterly ropable about this - and I say this not knowing anything about what has happened, but this is nothing compared to his victims
Unfortunate for the league as despite all these developments the coverage of the league in general was a good thing. Unlikely to see anything done like this again.
Looks like the foz will be the new place to discuss rumours and results!
no I wasn't talking about Kahibah - but this highlights an issue that there's a lot of clubs out there, all NewFM clubs really and the associations, who haven't made him do a working with children check
even though this was just adult football he was covering all games on the days, including youth games
clubs, the associations and even the police talking to the clubs if they knew - how did this fall through the cracks?
I go away for 2 week thinking there is nothing doing the odd coaching change. What the hell have I missed
If we as a community want to deal with the issue, I think we all need to just never ever mention the dude again. Let him disappear into obscurity as if he never existed. This will damage him more than being talked about negatively, I can nearly guarentee it.
Let NNSW admin, and the clubs themselves, work PRIVATELY on banning this character and setting up systems in future to prevent similar scenarios happen.
But otherwise we as a community shouldn't mention him again, as there's no such thing as bad press and being talked about will be the thing that keeps the dude relevant.
he's definitely persona non grata as far as I'm concerned but is that the solution?
put the word newysports as a blocked word on this forum, wipe all records of him from history?
I think that's a good idea but it should just be the start - from now on all club volunteers should have a check done
I know I won't be as trusting, particularly with anyone who is a bit weird looking like he was
All official club volunteers should already have a WWCC, unfortunately the amount of rights these convicted people get are ridiculous. People like this guy who are just fans or maybe relations to players don't have to declare their convictions and therefore can participate in club activities, work in canteens, take photos etc without anyone having any knowledge. Players don't even have to complete a WWCC. It's disgusting there is no way for any of us to check, even if there is one living next door to us.
it's worse than that - medical staff aren't actually allowed to tell others of convictions for this sort of shit, even when organising accommodation somewhere like Ronald McDonald house - although they often will say that there is a conviction but they're unable to provide details
should this convo be moved to a separate thread? avoid tarnishing this competition any more?
There’s a certain ex referee who’s a convicted rock spider and is now a referee inspector
Has anyone got a copy of the post for those that missed it. That way people that comment have the facts
I’ve been involved in three referee branches as an adult, and only Macquarie required me to get a WWCC, and that was only because I was mentoring/assessing (or inspecting in the old terms).
As I said, I have a WWCC, but to referee with state league I have never had to supply it, nor during my time with Newcastle did I require one.
It’s not just a players or club volunteers issue, it’s something that, unfortunately, I think everyone has to have. Who’s to say the o/35s or all age players won’t come up against young kids in another team. Same with referees, given how low on numbers we are, how many times do you see adults involved in the young ages to help cover the shortage?
exactly, and it shouldn't be up to already overextended club admins to have to be cops as well and check up on everyone putting out the cones at training.
i've had to get a WWCC for volunteer work (i passed btw) but i swear it was one box ticked on one for the year i started and nothings been done since.
honestly, for things like sporting clubs, the people in and around the club have direct ties to kids in the club so you'd have to assume 99.99% of them are not only good people, but would be very protective of the kids. unfortunately no system would make that number 100%.
I think a lot of clubs and and associations can learn from this. If it brings about change and makes some people think “hmmm maybe I should get the WWCC on this person” or make it routine, then that’s a positive.
I’m pretty sure there’s a volunteer version of the WWCC that is free, if just can’t be used for paid employment. But I think it should be able to be used for “community” work like refereeing as it’s rarely somebody’s main income.
I need one for my job. And I got it about 3 years ago when it first become WWCC instead of a CRC, and I think it lasts 5 years before you need to renew.
I’m not sure the processes involved if there is a conviction after you attain the WWCC, or if organisations would diligently type in the details to check it all is legit.
I guess it highlights how easy it could be and how trusting people in the football community are.
The newysports facebook page has been removed including the original post. Sorry I didn'y save the post or anything.
A quick summary from what I can remember.
He had been absent since April-May and was now returning to cover the comp, etc. Admitted he had been in gaol for 90 days. After questioning from people as to why he was in gaol, he admitted that he was in for possession of underage material. Tried to sell it as being on the minor end of the scale and thats why he only did 90days.
A second post went into more detail where he said he was initially convicted in 2012 when he was 18 and has never been able to apply for a WWCC as he would not get one.
There was a whole bunch more waffle, excuses, etc but in the end he decided to remove newysports facebook page and discontinue his coverage of the division.
The page has been deleted.
It was spread across a couple of post and in the comments section of those post. Ty was arrested back in 2012 when he was 18 for being in possession of Child Pornography, he was sentenced to 150hours community service, 3 years probation and registered as a sex offender. He got arrested back in June this year for what I’m unsure of fully, he was sentenced to 3 months jail.
In the post and comments he showed little remorse for his actions saying that his offences were in “the lower end” and his crimes were victimless. One of the post he came out as homosexual and it came across as a suicide note.
He expressed that NewySports was the only thing that he cared about and he hoped that he would be able to continue doing that.
That’s a basic summary, hope it helps.
There is a pretty big line. Cross it and you have done the wrong thing and the courts will penalise offenders accordingly.
The game and himself need to move on in different directions and get on with it.
True, It's a shame for the division because it was coverage they would never normally receive. However there is no way any sane club would ever go near the bloke with a 10 foot pole.
Hopefully someone else can step up and provide some level of coverage for the division because NNSW, media, etc show no interest in the division at all.
I'll post his bullshit tonight - it's pretty sickening and self pitying
https://imgur.com/a/7ZL8bVF
Missing the initial post, but this was the juicy stuff
Hopefully this guy gets some help
Don't know him personally but he seems to have some issues he needs some help addressing
That not agreeing with his behaviour at all
Just recognising this guy needs some help
I think the world is a better place without sex pests like this
why risk him ruining other young lives so he can get a few moments of sick pleasure?