good thing about jonno, bowling is random but can hold a bat. ave over 21.
Game over a little too quick
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tony grieg passes and hussey retiring at end of the season...
bad day for cricket in australia...
Hussey going ain't that bad as he should have been punted on at least 4 occasions previously only to be spared the axe and get runs. Best news for this is that it will free up the No 6 spot to put Watson where he should be
Watson is like a tampon....
in for 1 out for 3...
not a fan of him at all...
Mark Waugh was considered one of the best bats we've had in last 20 years, scored 20 test centuries from 128 tests.
Hussey has 19 from 77 tests.
Test average 10 points higher.
Bloke is far better than he's given credit for.
Says a lot for putting these kids in after 10 Sheild matches. Hussey, like Boof Lehman and a few others had to prove themselves before getting a run.
Seems these days you just need a mate in the paper to blow your trumpet and you're given a baggy green.
Big difference between then and now IMO. The depth just isn't there in the Shield and there aren't the number of blokes scoring big runs at that level like there was previously. Because of the guys are getting a run in the test team that would have been lucky to get a state spot in years past.
Also the game has changed a lot since those days. Most of the blokes coming through in the Hayden/Hussey/Lehmann era actually focused on having a technique for first class cricket. Nowadays kids are bought up to hit the ball for the big shot all the time thanks to one day cricket and 20/20. When they get to first class level their technique constantly gets found out as they are all hand and eye.
Couple that with the return to fashion of swing bowling and that in this day and age pitches are starting to see a bit more grass on them than the roads of the late 90's and early 2000's and these new found cricketers are struggling. Why cause they don't have the technique/footwork to play decent bowling where the ball does a bit through the air or off the pitch as they are eye playing sloggers
australias problem is that we are putting 20/20 players in tests, it doesnt work and it wont work
yes you will probably say look at warner etc, but warner is ****ing hopeless, he gets out playing a stupid shot 9/10 times.
we are going to struggle in the future, til we bleed proper test players
CONSPIRACY THEORY 34585628930 -D
Have a sneaking feeling this 20-20 shite is an elaborate plot by the Poms. Offer it up to the world who go head over heels for it. Poms work on the basics of technique whilst everyone else is going gaga over 20-20. All of a sudden everyone elses technical game falls apart and the Poms rise to the top of the world as they have kept their eye on the big picture and worked on developing players for Test cricket with some technique.
Unfortunately it is all reality except for any HARD proof of the Pommy plot
Plus we have trouble moving the ball over in pommyland. bring back alderman
Granted England stumbled into a couple of once in a generation talents like Strauss and Cook but **** me the Aussies just went to water for a long time.
15 years ago Graham Swann would have been the laughing stock of world cricket and belted out of the attack at every opportunity, the bloke chucks dead set pies.
Nowadays the Aussie kids believe the hype and are shit scared of him before they walk out.
We've turned into a team of Daryl Cullinans.
There's not been a better off spinner* in the last 15 years than Swann. He would stroll in to any test teams first XI right now, and would have strolled into any other side, bar an Aus XI with Warne involved, over the past 15 years, probably longer.
*Murali doesn't bowl, he throws.
harbajan comes to mind as about at least 600% better than Swan.
Also Murali doesnt chuck*. Not any more than Malinga or Tait anyway.
But anyway, dont let aussie pride get in the way of your prejudices.
*and by chuck i mean he was reported, then cleared. So by definition that means he doesnt chuck. Maybe your asterix needs to say "in my opinion, Murali chucks". Id respect that more.
First of all, I'm not after your respect, so if you were mistaken into believing you are worthy of my respect, I feel sorry for you.
Secondly, Swann has both a slightly better average, and a far superior strike rate to Harbajahn. (Swann a wicket every 10 overs, Harbajhan a wicket every 11.5)
Thirdly, if it was some sort of Aussie pride holding me back, wouldn't I have picked an Aussie spinner to base my assertion on rather than a Pommy one?
Finally, to quote my Sri Lankan Brother in law: "of course Murali chucks it. They wouldn't have changed the rules for a legal delivery for a white guy".
Next time you try to be a keyboard warrior, back it up with some facts.
oh wow. sorry if i offended you. no you dont need my respect, so we're good there.
now for some facts you asked for.
rough numbers Swann has approx half the wickets from half the tests. Similar numbers for one dayers (dont know if 20/20 is a great comparison due to different eras but if you want ill check them).
Taken alone you are spot on about the averages but Bruce Yardley and Nathan Lyon have a similar average to both Swann and Harbahjan. Where do they sit in your pantheon of greats? Id say no where near those two we are talking about but any one stat can be used to push anyones barrow i guess.
Strike rate, yep again good stat, but 'far superior' that theres 11 balls difference per wicket? Ok then cool.
My point is this, if Swann keeps up this pace he should reach what Harbajan has already done, except that Swann is about a year older than Singh so whether he'll get near his totals is debatable.
Going off this rationale you can argue Michael Clarke is a greater batsman than Ricky Ponting? Dont know who would think that. Do you?
Singh HAS done it, Swann MIGHT do it.
Therefore in my opinion Harbajan has been a better bowler over the last 15 years. In another few years that opinion may change, but it would help if Swann gets near the totals first.
As for Murali chucking, Sorry but it is just your opinion, (and your brother in laws, and no doubt countless more). Murali has been deemed to have a legit action so his records are legit.
As for the keyboard warrior comment, are you serious dude?
anyway am happy to talk cricket all day long carn aussie carn and all that.
Fvck I love test cricket...fvck I'm hating 50 over shit nowadays especially when we rest anybody of real importance. Does being an Australian player really have the same feel as years gone by ?
please take international cricket rego
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we're really not very good are we...
and good to see the pitch breaking up already. after all, we are 1 and a half sessions into the test match.
Regardless of the pitch (and I agree with you on it), Warner's dismissal was a disc-race.
Worst part is that the debate has been around dropping Cowan from a top 3 spot (in favour of Warner, Hughes and Watson) but he's the only one with any resemblance to an openers technique or temperament.
(Yes I know he failed today too).
My point is that blokes like Justing Langer and Swampy Marsh must be rolling in their graves seeing this lot call themselves test batsmen.
...........and don't even get me started on Doherty and Maxwel.
was a pretty poor shot, and agree to a fair extent.
warner/watson/hughes - good when the ball/pitch isn't doing anything, not so good when it is.
decent comeback thus far.
(wade almost out as i wrote that)
wade out the next ball.
sorry, my fault.
so the curry munchers are doctoring pitches .... FMD...what's next lol... lol...lol
A declaration at 237.
Clarke, Captain Fantastico.
strayas batsmen
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believe this could go down as our worst tour on record
:sigh: we still suck