2016 Player movements

[Zico]

Newcastle football has changed so much in the past few years.. For better or worse I'm not too sure. Lakes have well and truly bought the comp in newfm for next year and the likes of Wallsend will try and do the same. It's a shame really, If only there were more clubs trying to produce young talent and give them the opportunities to step up rather then paying old players stupid money for one or two years of short term success. Lets hope Wallsend don't go down Lakes path.

Newcastle football is all about the $$$ I personally think that's a shame.

I actually take my hat off to MFKS for his opinion on this topic, to many clubs are throwing wasted money at players who are honestly mercenaries. I can see the model the local league use in no promotion or relegation being the best move forward. Clubs can then spend the money on developing the facilities & coaches which will in turn develop then junior base (better quality future players) and promote loyalties to the club in later years which flows on to bigger club support & club workers (committee members).
Still have the criteria applications (needs fixing) to allow club to apply to be promoted and lagging clubs be relegated but spending huge money on hasbeens or wannabe's unsustainable and the fault of the federation. Its even sillier when you can spend $100k on players, win the comp by 12 points then not be promoted due to the Jets coming last therefore no relegation!

[winner]

I actually take my hat off to MFKS for his opinion on this topic, to many clubs are throwing wasted money at players who are honestly mercenaries. I can see the model the local league use in no promotion or relegation being the best move forward. Clubs can then spend the money on developing the facilities & coaches which will in turn develop then junior base (better quality future players) and promote loyalties to the club in later years which flows on to bigger club support & club workers (committee members).
Still have the criteria applications (needs fixing) to allow club to apply to be promoted and lagging clubs be relegated but spending huge money on hasbeens or wannabe's unsustainable and the fault of the federation. Its even sillier when you can spend $100k on players, win the comp by 12 points then not be promoted due to the Jets coming last therefore no relegation!

The fed were on the right track 2 years ago when they introduced the points system which in essence would have forced clubs to develop and promote youth instead of spending 100k and buying 4- 6 new players every year like jaffas magic and olympic do every year. But for some unknown reason (probably due to the big clubs complaints) this years points system was so watered down that clubs could go open slather and sign how many they wanted again. Typical nnsw.
Before the whinging from jaffas magic and olympic about them buying 4-6 players this year
Magic; Archie, Faj, Bradbury, Barber
Jaffas; Swancott, Brown, Canli, Byrnes
Olympic; Ireland, Goodchild, Mooney,Byrnes

[namwob99]

The fed were on the right track 2 years ago when they introduced the points system which in essence would have forced clubs to develop and promote youth instead of spending 100k and buying 4- 6 new players every year like jaffas magic and olympic do every year. But for some unknown reason (probably due to the big clubs complaints) this years points system was so watered down that clubs could go open slather and sign how many they wanted again. Typical nnsw.
Before the whinging from jaffas magic and olympic about them buying 4-6 players this year
Magic; Archie, Faj, Bradbury, Barber
Jaffas; Swancott, Brown, Canli, Byrnes
Olympic; Ireland, Goodchild, Mooney,Byrnes

Spot on. Pretty much back to where it was.

[ForeverRed]

The points Sydtem had nothing to do with nnswf, it was implemented and changed by FFA,

[Zico]

I don't think the points system is very good at all and to an extent can limit youth pathways through to the top grade. Stop promotion and relegation and go to the re-apply model every 3-5 years and watch the development of youth go to never seen before levels.

If a club know they are safe they will spend the money once used to survive on coach development, equipment & facilities. No club can afford to budget on a lean season to get their club back on good financial terms in this format, it's simply to risky to do so.

[The Red Devil]

Newcastle football has changed so much in the past few years.. For better or worse I'm not too sure. Lakes have well and truly bought the comp in newfm for next year and the likes of Wallsend will try and do the same. It's a shame really, If only there were more clubs trying to produce young talent and give them the opportunities to step up rather then paying old players stupid money for one or two years of short term success. Lets hope Wallsend don't go down Lakes path.

Newcastle football is all about the $$$ I personally think that's a shame.

It's not always about $$. Wallsend FC won the comp on next to no budget last year. The players that came to the club like Gazzard, Hodgson, Wheeler, Cook, Dan Rufo offered to play for nothing as they are long term friends with Head Coach Josh Rufo. Mateship is still well and truly alive in Newcastle Football and the new players Wallsend have signed this year came for this very reason. Cam Hughes and the Kepo brothers have all played with current Wallsend players in the past and want to be part of the great culture and aspiration the club is establishing. There are ways to win trophies without $. You would fall off your chair if you new how little wallsend spent to lift it this year.

[winner]

It's not always about $$. Wallsend FC won the comp on next to no budget last year. The players that came to the club like Gazzard, Hodgson, Wheeler, Cook, Dan Rufo offered to play for nothing as they are long term friends with Head Coach Josh Rufo. Mateship is still well and truly alive in Newcastle Football and the new players Wallsend have signed this year came for this very reason. Cam Hughes and the Kepo brothers have all played with current Wallsend players in the past and want to be part of the great culture and aspiration the club is establishing. There are ways to win trophies without $. You would fall off your chair if you new how little wallsend spent to lift it this year.

If you want any credibility on the forum red devil you really can't expect people to believe the likes of Hodgson and Gazzard are playing for free. It is not in their dna and never will be. Not having a go at Wallsend because there is nothing wrong with paying players, just don't lie about it. Knowing both of them well and have played with both of them years ago, i know for a fact , straight from the horses mouth that they were both on good coin this year

[Brandon166]

The fed were on the right track 2 years ago when they introduced the points system which in essence would have forced clubs to develop and promote youth instead of spending 100k and buying 4- 6 new players every year like jaffas magic and olympic do every year. But for some unknown reason (probably due to the big clubs complaints) this years points system was so watered down that clubs could go open slather and sign how many they wanted again. Typical nnsw.
Before the whinging from jaffas magic and olympic about them buying 4-6 players this year
Magic; Archie, Faj, Bradbury, Barber
Jaffas; Swancott, Brown, Canli, Byrnes
Olympic; Ireland, Goodchild, Mooney,Byrnes

Barber was already at Magic and mooney was already at Olympic from previous year so you can scratch them two out

[NearlyALegend]

I dont know anything about cam hughes and the kepo brothers. Will they improve this wallsend team?

[The Red Devil]

If you want any credibility on the forum red devil you really can't expect people to believe the likes of Hodgson and Gazzard are playing for free. It is not in their dna and never will be. Not having a go at Wallsend because there is nothing wrong with paying players, just don't lie about it. Knowing both of them well and have played with both of them years ago, i know for a fact , straight from the horses mouth that they were both on good coin this year

Believe it or not, that's the truth! Both gave up good money in NPL to help a mate start his coaching career. In contrast to popular belief on this forum, it's not always about $ and players are not always focussed on bleeding clubs dry. Both are on the committee and want to help a famous old club get back to the top of NNSW, a far greater reward then some pocket money.

[The Red Devil]

I dont know anything about cam hughes and the kepo brothers. Will they improve this wallsend team?

Yes, the club is very pleased to have them. Hughes was at Edgeworth last year but cannot commit to NPL next year because of work. The kepreotes brothers are from Olympic, both talented young players that will be excellent in NewFM.

[winner]

Believe it or not, that's the truth! Both gave up good money in NPL to help a mate start his coaching career. In contrast to popular belief on this forum, it's not always about $ and players are not always focussed on bleeding clubs dry. Both are on the committee and want to help a famous old club get back to the top of NNSW, a far greater reward then some pocket money.

Wow. That is great for the club then. Are you saying that Gazzard and hodgo are both on the committee at Wallsend?

[The Red Devil]

Wow. That is great for the club then. Are you saying that Gazzard and hodgo are both on the committee at Wallsend?

Yes, Gazzard does brand & marketing for the club and Hodgson is helping with sponsorships this year. Club is trying to build towards NPL and a lot of people old and new are behind that vision, it would be great to see another foundation club in the top div!

[NearlyALegend]

Amish never got back to us about the WFC rumour with scott miller. Anyone else got any gossip about it

[Football life]

It's pretty obvious it was just a rumour.

[NearlyALegend]

So what are lakes looking like this year?

[The Magician]

The fed were on the right track 2 years ago when they introduced the points system which in essence would have forced clubs to develop and promote youth instead of spending 100k and buying 4- 6 new players every year like jaffas magic and olympic do every year. But for some unknown reason (probably due to the big clubs complaints) this years points system was so watered down that clubs could go open slather and sign how many they wanted again. Typical nnsw.
Before the whinging from jaffas magic and olympic about them buying 4-6 players this year
Magic; Archie, Faj, Bradbury, Barber
Jaffas; Swancott, Brown, Canli, Byrnes
Olympic; Ireland, Goodchild, Mooney,Byrnes

Barber come from our U17's, get your facts right... thus Magic only brought in 3 as directed by our points allocation of its first inception... then they stuffed it and watered it right down.

[front2]

Have heard some weird shiit coming out of Cooks Hill. Ex Jets player Milton Rodrigguez is on some kind of visa and looking to play for a local club for at least a couple of seasons. He apparently has contacted the club.

[Premy]

I don't think the points system is very good at all and to an extent can limit youth pathways through to the top grade. Stop promotion and relegation and go to the re-apply model every 3-5 years and watch the development of youth go to never seen before levels.

If a club know they are safe they will spend the money once used to survive on coach development, equipment & facilities. No club can afford to budget on a lean season to get their club back on good financial terms in this format, it's simply to risky to do so.

"To risky to do so"
All this talk about stopping relegation. For heavens sake there is already a relegation floor you can not get relegated any further then NewFM, holy crap we dropped one level how will we ever get back up pfft.

[Premy]

Have heard some weird shiit coming out of Cooks Hill. Ex Jets player Milton Rodrigguez is on some kind of visa and looking to play for a local club for at least a couple of seasons. He apparently has contacted the club.

What???

How old is Milton now?? 40??