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    Youth system

    Is the youth system needed at a league level?

    How many players have progressed from youth to full contract at our club in 10 years?

    Pavicevic, cowburn, Regan, Lundy, hoole, who have I missed

    One every two years, for an owner it's hardly worth the outlay.

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    System hasn't been around for ten years yet.

    And with tinkler the one previously making the outlay, maybe the outlay hasn't been enough.

    A system is only as good as the people employed to work in it.
    Investment needs to happen in coaching staff too.

    And no doubt, most academies around the world aren't just focussed on producing first tema players for their respective clubs, being able to on sell players to other clubs helps cover costs and make profits too.

    Too early to pull the pin on things yet I reckon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mervan View Post
    Is the youth system needed at a league level?

    How many players have progressed from youth to full contract at our club in 10 years?

    Pavicevic, cowburn, Regan, Lundy, hoole, who have I missed

    One every two years, for an owner it's hardly worth the outlay.
    Firstly that is complete shit.

    Not one club has actually embraced it.

    Far too much recycling of shit **** players.

    Reality is yoof is not given a go in the pursuit of instant results.



    In a league as shit as the HAL you could Seriously clean up in 3 years if you actually back kids as the standard isn't that high that you could overtake your rivals quickly

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    Firstly that is complete shit.

    Not one club has actually embraced it.

    Far too much recycling of shit **** players.

    Reality is yoof is not given a go in the pursuit of instant results.



    In a league as shit as the HAL you could Seriously clean up in 3 years if you actually back kids as the standard isn't that high that you could overtake your rivals quickly
    Mkfs, it's not shit it's fact, settle down.

    It's how it is, coaches need instant results, therefore no youth promotion, therefore it's a waste of time if your an owner.

    I would love to see aust youth promoted, given its a non relegation league, but unfortunately the coaches are the only promotion/ relegation hence no promotion for aust youth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GazFish35 View Post
    System hasn't been around for ten years yet.

    And with tinkler the one previously making the outlay, maybe the outlay hasn't been enough.

    A system is only as good as the people employed to work in it.
    Investment needs to happen in coaching staff too.

    And no doubt, most academies around the world aren't just focussed on producing first tema players for their respective clubs, being able to on sell players to other clubs helps cover costs and make profits too.

    Too early to pull the pin on things yet I reckon.
    Gaz unfortunately it's modern business, know one develops anymore, hence the the lack of trainee ships/apprentices in our society.

    The owners don't wont it

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    Quote Originally Posted by mervan View Post
    Gaz unfortunately it's modern business, know one develops anymore, hence the the lack of trainee ships/apprentices in our society.

    The owners don't wont it
    So you suggest youth players only come from state leagues

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    Quote Originally Posted by joel31 View Post
    So you suggest youth players only come from state leagues
    I don't know where they come from

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    Quote Originally Posted by mervan View Post
    I don't know where they come from
    So you query its worth yet then have no answers as to where the next generation of players are going to come from.

    Ok

    You sound worse than me

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    So you query its worth yet then have no answers as to where the next generation of players are going to come from.

    Ok

    You sound worse than me
    Mkfs I throw it up for discussion, I have know answers , didn't know I had to solve world problems here sorry mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by mervan View Post
    Mkfs I throw it up for discussion, I have know answers , didn't know I had to solve world problems here sorry mate
    So you throw it up for discussion

    Have an opinion on it one way but can't justify it with any solutions and are quick to shout down anyone who objects.


    You need to run for politics brother

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    How about we get rid of kids in football altogether since they're unproven and too high risk?

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    i reckon they should put the fozzle in charge

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    So you throw it up for discussion

    Have an opinion on it one way but can't justify it with any solutions and are quick to shout down anyone who objects.


    You need to run for politics brother
    Hahahaha!

    Pot.... kettle..... black.

    Fill in the blanks yourself! ��

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    Quote Originally Posted by GazFish35 View Post
    Hahahaha!

    Pot.... kettle..... black.

    Fill in the blanks yourself! ��
    Hey he sounds worse than I do.

    What can I do but call him on it ***

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    Some kicking up a stink because the import quota drops to four next year I believe. I am all for bringing in quality imports but we've had a lot of rubbish imports too over the years who have been brought into the A League and taking the spot of developing a local player, this I believe will eventually have a detrimental impact to the game here (and probably already has). Mervan raises some good points as probably to a certain extent many of the clubs have that line of thinking to a certain extent. To get rid of the Youth League would be a backwards step though, it would be suicide for the long term future of the game in Australia.

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    The 2015–16 season will have a shortened format reducing from 18 games per team to 8 and a Grand Final. The existing ten NYL teams will be divided into two conferences of five teams. Conference A will consist of teams from WA, SA, Victoria and Queensland, while teams from ACT and NSW will be placed in Conference B. All teams will play all other teams in their group both home and away. After the home and away series a Grand Final will be played between the top teams from each conference
    8 games then a GF? the league is almost non existant.

    Youth need expertise training but they also need to experience the hardness of senior football from 16/17 onwards.

    maybe play the the shortened npl season then sign up with a local State Prem team and be guaranteed game time

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawk View Post
    8 games then a GF? the league is almost non existant.

    Youth need expertise training but they also need to experience the hardness of senior football from 16/17 onwards.

    maybe play the the shortened npl season then sign up with a local State Prem team and be guaranteed game time
    All 9 Australian sides will be playing during winter in the local state league and then playing in this 8 game fiasco

    **** knows exactly what they are doing for the rest of the HAL season.

    MAybe they going to have a 4 month pre season for the State League??

    Whatever it is a totally ****ed idea.


    In the NSL they had a National Yoof League who played every week before the seniors.

    In this day and age with modern professionalism and the increased money they can't have it.

    Something is obviously wrong with the model

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    PFA wanting too much of the pie, not leaving enough for game development.

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    In a country where the majority of clubs have HAL, Womens and Youth teams you would think that they could somehow get all 3 playing on the same day at the same ground.

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