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    Quote Originally Posted by Frodo View Post
    Cause no one is going after Edrogan right now are they? It's not like NATO haven't already discussed removing them (it seems like this won't happen because of bureaucracy but it's still a big deal for them to discuss expulsion)? It's not like the armed forces didn't attempt a Coup in 2016 which ultimately failed. It's not like they haven't been protesting against him since 2013 until.... Right now! Erdogan is getting a good amount of heat from people, but there's still no real power in international politics anymore.

    But please, tell me about all those big bad media guys picking on little old Trumpy boy and how hard he has it.

    (This is meant to come off as more snarky and bitchy than actual outrage. Please don't read this as if I'm actually angry about any of this.)

    The reason the US troops are there is because of the fight against ISIS. That 'war' has been won (according to Trump himself) so all America is doing there now is 'policing' the area. Trump has repeatedly said he wants his troops out of these former warzones. He is fulfilling an election promise.
    If other countries see this as some sort of abandonment then ok, but the US mission over there was never about protecting the Kurds, or opposing the Turks.
    If the Turks decide to do something ****ed up then the whole damn world can gang on the murderous bastards.
    Yes, im well aware of Erdogans actions, and dont dig anything hes up to.


    but theres no human shield of US troops standing between Israel and Palestine.
    theres no human shield of US troops standing in the DMZ holding back Nth Korea despite all their actual threats and actions.

    again, we are talking about somewhere between 50 and 250 service people being moved. They could be 250 ****ing Rambos and they aint stopping a whole country pouring in if they wanted to.


    politicians seem to go from warmongers to spineless deserters in a short space of time. just wish the woke mob would make up their minds who they are cheering for.

    i think Trump brings a hell of a lot of this on himself, his social media use is def something not 'fit' for a world leader imho. but he is what he is, and hes going to go to the next election on a track record of living up to his promises. something politicians the world over are short on supply of. the public voted him in on those promises. he backs himself to rinse repeat. lets see how it all goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by plague View Post
    The reason the US troops are there is because of the fight against ISIS. That 'war' has been won (according to Trump himself) so all America is doing there now is 'policing' the area. Trump has repeatedly said he wants his troops out of these former warzones. He is fulfilling an election promise.
    If other countries see this as some sort of abandonment then ok, but the US mission over there was never about protecting the Kurds, or opposing the Turks.
    If the Turks decide to do something ****ed up then the whole damn world can gang on the murderous bastards.
    Yes, im well aware of Erdogans actions, and dont dig anything hes up to.


    but theres no human shield of US troops standing between Israel and Palestine.
    theres no human shield of US troops standing in the DMZ holding back Nth Korea despite all their actual threats and actions.

    again, we are talking about somewhere between 50 and 250 service people being moved. They could be 250 ****ing Rambos and they aint stopping a whole country pouring in if they wanted to.


    politicians seem to go from warmongers to spineless deserters in a short space of time. just wish the woke mob would make up their minds who they are cheering for.

    i think Trump brings a hell of a lot of this on himself, his social media use is def something not 'fit' for a world leader imho. but he is what he is, and hes going to go to the next election on a track record of living up to his promises. something politicians the world over are short on supply of. the public voted him in on those promises. he backs himself to rinse repeat. lets see how it all goes.
    So the biggest part of everyone's problem with the US pulling troops was because the decision was made directly after a meeting (may have been a phone call rather than in-person but same-same) between Erdogan and Trumpf. Erdogan "asked" Trumpf to remove the troops and he complied, knowing full well that Edrogan had previously promised to go after the Kurds once the US troops were gone.

    It looks like the POTUS is doing someone else's bidding even it negatively affects the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frodo View Post
    So the biggest part of everyone's problem with the US pulling troops was because the decision was made directly after a meeting (may have been a phone call rather than in-person but same-same) between Erdogan and Trumpf. Erdogan "asked" Trumpf to remove the troops and he complied, knowing full well that Edrogan had previously promised to go after the Kurds once the US troops were gone.

    It looks like the POTUS is doing someone else's bidding even it negatively affects the US.
    ok but is this fact or is this yet another one of those definitely true stories except for the truth part that has been the sole M.O. of political opponents ever since he was nominated?

    like Obamas birth certificate, like Michelle Obama being a man, like Ivanka getting patents from China for voting machines, like the pee tape, like Trump watching porn at the white house all day, like Russian collusion , like Melania dying and being replaced by MECHA MELANIA etc etc etc etc.

    if anyone gets any actual proof on this stuff, especially the pee tape, let me know. Otherwise ill be in the hotel bar.














    also a robot first lady would be dope as ****.
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    ok so ive been trying to read any actual quotes from people that matter.

    heres what i can gather (feel free for anyone to correct/insert).

    Erdogan wants to create a 'safe zone' on the syrian border.
    he met with Trump (via phone as Frodo said) and asked for US troops to no longer be involved in the area.
    Trump said ok, then publicly threatened Erdogan if he ****ed anything up.
    Erdogan has planned a White House visit to continue talks in the near future.



    If, somehow, Erdogan plans some sort of mass genocide somewhere in that timeline then its gotta be the most audacious plan in human history (outside of actual world wars). He would have to know that Trump has too much ego to be played like that and it would backfire with the heat of a thousand suns.
    i honestly dont think trump would let genocide happen for the sake of a few hotels. i just dont believe that.
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    Look closely people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dunster View Post


    Look closely people.
    To be fair, him having it the right way round is a start given his IQ. That and your average reporters wouldn't know what a Capo is it what it does anyway.
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    Clever...probably sounds like a perfect open tuned chord - and nobody understands how he is doing it.

    Plenty of great one chord songs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetmaster View Post
    Clever...probably sounds like a perfect open tuned chord - and nobody understands how he is doing it.

    Plenty of great one chord songs.
    Would rather listen to that than Hendrix any day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plague View Post
    ok so ive been trying to read any actual quotes from people that matter.

    heres what i can gather (feel free for anyone to correct/insert).

    Erdogan wants to create a 'safe zone' on the syrian border.
    he met with Trump (via phone as Frodo said) and asked for US troops to no longer be involved in the area.
    Trump said ok, then publicly threatened Erdogan if he ****ed anything up.
    Erdogan has planned a White House visit to continue talks in the near future.



    If, somehow, Erdogan plans some sort of mass genocide somewhere in that timeline then its gotta be the most audacious plan in human history (outside of actual world wars). He would have to know that Trump has too much ego to be played like that and it would backfire with the heat of a thousand suns.
    i honestly dont think trump would let genocide happen for the sake of a few hotels. i just dont believe that.
    Just to keep this shitshow of a topic going, Turkey started *attacking* so quickly that a group of US special forces soldiers hadn't had time to get far enough away (or the shelling was just off target) and got caught in the *attack*. None got injured, but that could have been interesting for Erdogan and Trump to explain if any of them had gotten injured or killed.
    Last edited by Frodo; 12-10-2019 at 09:47 AM. Reason: It was an artillery attack from nearby tanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frodo View Post
    Just to keep this shitshow of a topic going, Turkey started *attacking* so quickly that a group of US special forces soldiers hadn't had time to get far enough away (or the shelling was just off target) and got caught in the *attack*. None got injured, but that could have been interesting for Erdogan and Trump to explain if any of them had gotten injured or killed.
    is that the exclusive footage of the attack that was actually stock footage of a 2017 gun range show?
    https://www.nationalreview.com/news/...syria-segment/

    i dont disagree with your post, but again, in the rush to scream "ORANGE MAN BAD" the loudest and the quickest, a major US tv network showed fake ****ing footage.
    and this wasnt some 2 bit infowars type show, this was ABC, which is owned by Disney.

    again, if they'd waited, and fact checked and did some actual reporting then they would have a valid point. but the hysteria to be the wokest has again backfired (pardon the pun) and now the Trump fans have yet another example of the media lying about the President.
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    Let us all remind ourselves that by using the experience of Africa, Balkans, Asia, Middle East, South America, North America...................It's a bad idea for Europe to draw borders on a map

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    Quote Originally Posted by plague View Post
    is that the exclusive footage of the attack that was actually stock footage of a 2017 gun range show?
    https://www.nationalreview.com/news/...syria-segment/

    i dont disagree with your post, but again, in the rush to scream "ORANGE MAN BAD" the loudest and the quickest, a major US tv network showed fake ****ing footage.
    and this wasnt some 2 bit infowars type show, this was ABC, which is owned by Disney.

    again, if they'd waited, and fact checked and did some actual reporting then they would have a valid point. but the hysteria to be the wokest has again backfired (pardon the pun) and now the Trump fans have yet another example of the media lying about the President.
    That was literally some of the dumbest shit ever. It took all of 5 mins for the internet to remember that footage (How could you forgot something like that even if you didn't enjoy guns and stuff) and they had no way back from it. Surely a few people got fired for that one. That is 100% stupid outrage and deservedly gets to be mocked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skirt Boy View Post
    Let us all remind ourselves that by using the experience of Africa, Balkans, Asia, Middle East, South America, North America...................It's a bad idea for Europe to draw borders on a map
    You were trying to externally compare but one of the egs you listed are actually European.

    If we want to use an example of pure chaos in relation to borders, may we please never ever ignore the Mexicans of Victoria - disputes over a land border with SA, disputes over a land border with TAS, and let's not get started on the whole Canberra thing.
    OK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frodo View Post
    That was literally some of the dumbest shit ever. It took all of 5 mins for the internet to remember that footage (How could you forgot something like that even if you didn't enjoy guns and stuff) and they had no way back from it. Surely a few people got fired for that one. That is 100% stupid outrage and deservedly gets to be mocked.
    You living in a world of delusion if you think that the media in 2019 have some type of ethical integrity

    They are propoganda outlets for certain narratives and don't give a **** iabout the truth

    Getting their click bait out to manipulate the masses is their role

    People being dumb and having a 5 second attention span is why they are happy to post fake news and tell lies. Those who are paying attention call them on it but their are masses of fish who fall for it hook line and sinker every day

    Just look at all the halfwits going Orange Man Bad on a daily basis. Can't put a decent argument up about what I is bad about POTUS just stick standard BS that is easily knocked on its head
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    Oh man... I can't wait to kick back and watch this one unfurl..

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    You living in a world of delusion if you think that the media in 2019 have some type of ethical integrity

    They are propoganda outlets for certain narratives and don't give a **** iabout the truth


    Im sorry but Fox News cleary states it is 'Fair and Balanced' so therefore it is fair and balanced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bon View Post
    Oh man... I can't wait to kick back and watch this one unfurl..
    amen, embrace the chaos my friend, its the way of the future.

    Biden today in the debate said (in one sentence) "im going to get rid of the capital gains tax, im going to increase the capital gains tax, im going to double the capital gains tax".


    and hes the 'favourite'?

    geez.

    im not even joking but Oprah is pretty much the only one who can give Trump a contest and even shes not stupid enough to jeopardise all that conservative cash her viewers hand out.

    another 4 years of Trump, not such a bad thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by plague View Post
    Im sorry but Fox News cleary states it is 'Fair and Balanced' so therefore it is fair and balanced.
    Fox are pretty open that they are leaning in the direction they do

    CNN on the other hand large lying out the other side of their face
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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    Fox are pretty open that they are leaning in the direction they do

    CNN on the other hand large lying out the other side of their face
    What? Show me a person who doesn't think CNN are left leaning and I'll show you an idiot. Fox are right, CNN are left. The rest I couldn't tell you, I guess it depends on what get views at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frodo View Post
    What? Show me a person who doesn't think CNN are left leaning and I'll show you an idiot. Fox are right, CNN are left. The rest I couldn't tell you, I guess it depends on what get views at the time.
    I agree with the Member here. For a long long time Fox was right, MSNBC was left and CNN were parading themselves as the middle.

    I also agree that nowadays its anything but, and as we are seeing theres a lot of that direction coming from upstairs. Its bizarre that Murdoch has a pretty solid rep as a meddler in editorial content, but all of the other guys skate on it.

    Trump has called Zucker (CNN boss) out from day one, and it looks like there is now some fire to his smoke. Whether it changes minds i dont know.
    If anyone thinks any one of these rich assholes wants to abstain from getting involved, from Zuckerberg, to Murdoch and Bezos, then y'all be trippin.
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