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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dunster View Post
    Afghanistan have the lowest Carbon emissions per capita in the world. Are you sure that's what you want ?

    or would you perhaps settle for a 15th of our current emissions per capita and be like Zimbabwe ?

    EDIT: I should note that if you measure Carbon emissions asion of GDP Afghanistan and Zimbabwe fails miserably in comparison to developed nations.
    And data manipulation can be used to create any outrage.

    If low economic, low carbon emitters had the chance to develop industry they also smash out tons more Co2.

    It still comes down to pure volume of output. Cut it back each year and Develop Green tech which is the main issue.

    Massive opportunity to become a world leader if we can design a product that works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dunster View Post
    Plague hasn't posted here in over a month. I'm starting to get concerned. I hope he's ok.
    #prayforplaguesey
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    Quote Originally Posted by pv4 View Post
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    So the US Election is getting intriguing

    Dems gonna either offer up a nut job communist in Bernie Sanders or an old guy who seems to have Alzheimer's or dementia or something like that in Joe Biden

    Trump tearing them to pieces is gonna be fun to watch
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    Double-eff-aye should introduce a 3rd division and dump these ice addict welfare living scumbags straight there. dont even let them get their stink anywhere near 2nd division.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    So the US Election is getting intriguing

    Dems gonna either offer up a nut job communist in Bernie Sanders
    Communist?

    Far from it. In Australia he would be about as far left as Penny Wong.

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    1930's fascist's are left wing in comparison to the right as it stands in the 21st Century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skirt Boy View Post
    Communist?

    Far from it. In Australia he would be about as far left as Penny Wong.
    Bernie is a commy

    The bloke had a honeymoon in the USSR and got kicked out of a socialist compound for being too lazy

    Check his policies out

    You would probably love them
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    Double-eff-aye should introduce a 3rd division and dump these ice addict welfare living scumbags straight there. dont even let them get their stink anywhere near 2nd division.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    Bernie is a commy

    The bloke had a honeymoon in the USSR and got kicked out of a socialist compound for being too lazy

    Check his policies out

    You would probably love them
    What's wrong with having a honeymoon in the USSR?

    Communism aside the constituent countries of the USSR have a rich cultural heritage and some of the most famous people in the world. It also has destinations that rival if not exceed anything that France, Germany, UK ect put on.

    The policies are no more controversial or left than anything that Hawke, Whitlam and Keating introduced. In Australia or Europe he would very much be in the centre on the political spectrum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dunster View Post
    1930's fascist's are left wing in comparison to the right as it stands in the 21st Century.
    That's actually not that far from the truth. Take the genocidal police state out of it. The NSDAP were very left. Especially in its early years before the SA was destroyed in the "Knight of the Long Knives" when most of the hard left of the party was eliminated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    Bernie is a commy

    The bloke had a honeymoon in the USSR and got kicked out of a socialist compound for being too lazy

    Check his policies out

    You would probably love them
    You just called him a communist, you clearly need to read his policies. Cause either you have no idea what communism is, or you don't know who Bernie Sanders is and what his policies are? I'm gonna guess both considering the list of subjects in this thread alone that you clearly don't understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frodo View Post
    You just called him a communist, you clearly need to read his policies. Cause either you have no idea what communism is, or you don't know who Bernie Sanders is and what his policies are? I'm gonna guess both considering the list of subjects in this thread alone that you clearly don't understand.
    Free health care for all

    Free education for all

    There is 2

    His plan to pay for it

    Communism 101
    Steal from one to give to another
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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    Free health care for all

    Free education for all

    There is 2

    His plan to pay for it

    Communism 101
    Steal from one to give to another
    You're thinking of Robin Hood.

    Universal Healthcare would actually save the US money. What's communist about cutting spending?

    Free Education has been around in Europe for years and their economies are booming. That's not communism either.

    Yet again you type out plenty of words and they have little to no meaning.


    Bloomberg just wasted USD $500 million on a very quick and very failed nomination bid. It didn't effect his wealth in the slightest. Bernie could "steal" half his $58.4 billion wealth and he wouldn't even notice. You can cry over the wealthy having to pay a fair share of tax till the cows come home. Until I get all the same tax breaks and bailouts that big business gets, I couldn't care less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frodo View Post
    You're thinking of Robin Hood.

    Universal Healthcare would actually save the US money. What's communist about cutting spending?

    Free Education has been around in Europe for years and their economies are booming. That's not communism either.

    Yet again you type out plenty of words and they have little to no meaning.


    Bloomberg just wasted USD $500 million on a very quick and very failed nomination bid. It didn't effect his wealth in the slightest. Bernie could "steal" half his $58.4 billion wealth and he wouldn't even notice. You can cry over the wealthy having to pay a fair share of tax till the cows come home. Until I get all the same tax breaks and bailouts that big business gets, I couldn't care less.
    Universal Healthcare would not be cheaper. That just straight out n out bull shit to claim it be cheaper

    It also wouldn't improve the quality either which is the best in the world


    What are the waiting times like in Oz for treatment under the commy Medicare where the government roles out treatment how and when they like ??

    Nothing like the USA where you want a procedure done it is getting down that day


    European economies are booming??
    That's funny

    Since The poms left the EU the cluster **** that it is has been exposed for its faults
    Right now the ****s are trying to work out where they getting the money from that is now void thanks to Brexit

    Problem is that there whole ponzi scheme is potentially about to fall apart if they don't sort this shit out
    Because if they don't get the money to keep all these ****s in it happy then there will be a few more Brexits

    You only need a France Spain or Shitaly to start walking away and the Germans dream of conquering Europe is in tatters again
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    A quick google would answer your medicare for all question. The current estimates for Healthcare in current form is $50 trillion over 10 years if you add up all the costs. Medicare for All is estimated at $32 trillion over the same period.

    The private sector will take a huge cut to its profits, but because they currently overcharge so much for simple procedures, they'll be fine in the long run.

    Plus Medicare for all would absolutely crush the pharmaceutical companies. The government would just bypass them and import things like Insulin if they don't bring the prices down to real world prices. (Just like the 1000s of people who currently drive into Canada to buy it for a fraction of the cost in the US.)

    Realistic there's no way Medicare for All doesn't happen within the next 10 years. Now that the numbers are out there and people know how much they can save, even Republicans are going to have to let it happen soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skirt Boy View Post
    And the Member thinks that is great. He thinks that he'd have enough wealth to sit back and laugh at the people dragged into the system without choice.

    People over there commit suicide because they don't want to burden their family with hospital bills when they die. It's terrifying.

    The US is barely even a first world country nowadays. They have one of the highest poverty rates of any first world nation. The highest medical costs, the lowest life expectancy rates, education levels are some of the worst. They do have low unemployment rates but they've fudged that by offering disgustingly low minimum wages and the low income earners have to work 2-3 times as many hours in order to reach an actual living wage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    Free health care for all

    Free education for all

    There is 2

    His plan to pay for it

    Communism 101
    Steal from one to give to another
    The same way they bailed out the Banks and Investment houses. The government debits an own account and credits an exchange settlement account held with the FED.
    The only limit or constraint is with real resource availability - money is never an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frodo View Post
    A quick google would answer your medicare for all question. The current estimates for Healthcare in current form is $50 trillion over 10 years if you add up all the costs. Medicare for All is estimated at $32 trillion over the same period.

    The private sector will take a huge cut to its profits, but because they currently overcharge so much for simple procedures, they'll be fine in the long run.

    Plus Medicare for all would absolutely crush the pharmaceutical companies. The government would just bypass them and import things like Insulin if they don't bring the prices down to real world prices. (Just like the 1000s of people who currently drive into Canada to buy it for a fraction of the cost in the US.)

    Realistic there's no way Medicare for All doesn't happen within the next 10 years. Now that the numbers are out there and people know how much they can save, even Republicans are going to have to let it happen soon.
    That is ****ing hilarious

    In the real world whenever a government gets involved in running industries costs go up because governments bring bureaucracy in and nothing gets done without increased costs

    You are trying to now claim that this won't happen here

    FMD


    As for the current health spend that is reasonably able to be estimated

    That estimate of Bernies is just that a ****ing guess

    Because no one knows how much it will cost

    You open up Medicare for all and there be much more costs than can ever be estimated just like every other government policy or initiative that comes in well over budget

    The fact that Bernie doesn't really know the answered on it says plenty
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frodo View Post
    And the Member thinks that is great. He thinks that he'd have enough wealth to sit back and laugh at the people dragged into the system without choice.

    People over there commit suicide because they don't want to burden their family with hospital bills when they die. It's terrifying.

    The US is barely even a first world country nowadays. They have one of the highest poverty rates of any first world nation. The highest medical costs, the lowest life expectancy rates, education levels are some of the worst. They do have low unemployment rates but they've fudged that by offering disgustingly low minimum wages and the low income earners have to work 2-3 times as many hours in order to reach an actual living wage.
    Get a job pay your own way in life

    The government is not in place to provide a welfare state for those who don't take care of their own shit
    Quote Originally Posted by plague View Post

    Double-eff-aye should introduce a 3rd division and dump these ice addict welfare living scumbags straight there. dont even let them get their stink anywhere near 2nd division.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skirt Boy View Post
    I am not surprised that a leftist resorts to call to emotion for aid their point


    I don't believe in your Marxist belief in equality of outcome

    Nothing in the world is fair or even and nor should it be despite your desire for it to be so
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    Double-eff-aye should introduce a 3rd division and dump these ice addict welfare living scumbags straight there. dont even let them get their stink anywhere near 2nd division.

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