that's the point: We shouldOriginally Posted by GazFish35
that's the point: We should
Dare to Zlatan
Originally Posted by Grimario
He won't make that mistake at Newcastle since our team is full of number 2's.
Hang on, I thought you said our squad was garbage? So are you saying you expect them to improve with better preparation? Make up your mind.
Either complain about the prep, or complain about the lack of ability in our squad. The result last night can't be down to both. And if you want to raise both of those as complaints, that makes the performance from an unprepared, incompetent club even more impressive against a seasoned team of pros like MV who were hardly dominant.
You're getting so worked up over one signing that isn't here yet, to which none of us know the reason for. But why would Miller sign anymore additional strikers knowing Haliti and Nordstrand will be fit for the season ie the competition that actually matters? He's still lumbered with Brennan/Pavicevic who he doesn't rate, and he's also given a young guy in Brymora a chance last night, something you've been critical of in the past when we haven't tried youth.
Funnily enough, people who think we're falling further behind the other teams are happy to point out that those clubs still have signings to come, yet when we have a signing to come, it's a bad thing because it's too late.
The season is still 2 months away and that's what the preparation should be geared for. Personally I wanted them to win last night but I don't give two shits about the FFA Cup as a whole. At the end of the day, Miller will get judged on where we finish next March/April, not how far we get in an offseason knockout tournament. There's a reason NPL clubs are causing their fair share of upsets.
I couldn't a crap about a pre-season knock out comp when we can't even finish inside the top 6 regularly. If we can have a pre season that doesn't involve changes to almost half the team we can take the FFA cup seriously, A striker wouldn't have won us the FFA cup, 2 new defenders wouldn't have won us the game, no amount of new players would have won us anything. Preseason and early season wins are built on stability, something which we have no idea about.
The people who wanted to win the FFA cup won't take positives from the game which is totally fine. People who don't care about the FFA cup will take it as a glorified friendly and take positives out of new combinations forming. Neither is correct.
Big clubs become big because they develop a winning mentality. Every comp they enter they want to win. The Jets are participating hoping for best outcome.
Dare to Zlatan
Originally Posted by Grimario
He won't make that mistake at Newcastle since our team is full of number 2's.
Yep truth bombs there
Where as we have fans that actually defend the failings of the club and thus allow the losing culture to be tolerated.
Maybe if we as fans put the club in a position where they were expected to deliver then they may raise their game rather than now where they are allowed to fail again and again and again and we have people defending them for it
Thought you were 5'5.5".
Crikey!! The stats are pointless barney was weeks ago wasn't it? And you've only just found a stat to prove that stats don't prove anything? Or do they? How many actual goals did those guys score? Not counting penalties of course - because that is the most pointless stat of all......
nah.
I've always (and only) argued that assists are a garbage stat especially when its the only stat you produce to say a bloke should be sacked.
As i showed above in a totally garbage post that assists shouldn't be the only stat you go to when compiling your argument.
if you believe in assists being important then you believe my garbage post. i aint deciding for anyone, just putting some data out there for you all.
(and I'm still waiting on my man to come back and explain exactly what the damn hell an 'assist' is anyway - anyone?).
Last edited by plague; 05-08-2016 at 08:24 AM.
I think its something to do with fluid filled sacs in the body
The winner of the FFA cup should qualify for ACL. That's where Mr Lee wants to take us, then it could be done in 5 games............and Jets might treat it / prepare more seriously
Dare to Zlatan
Originally Posted by Grimario
He won't make that mistake at Newcastle since our team is full of number 2's.
agreed
it fits with my dream of seeing Cooks Hill United winning the World Club Cup
It's been 1 game and you're writing the season off before it's even begun. That's your decision.
Maybe some of us want to try and look for something within our football that isn't all about what people are doing wrong, how players have ****ed up, how players are shit until it brings them down to a level where they feel so small and have no confidence it inhibits their ability to perform, thus giving more ammo to call them shit and ****ed up.
I'm not reading people on here that are all sunshine and lollipops about the performance. We lost at the end of the day and I'm pissed off we are out of the cup again. But some are choosing to identify both positives and negatives based on our opinion.
Only time will tell if this is going to be "another year of failure" but I'm sure as hell going to do my best to contribute from the stand by creating an atmosphere to make sure that it isn't.
I guess as well, some of us are just grateful we have a club we can support at all.
The Championship Chronicles - The Jetstream's review of the 2007/08 season. www.newcastlefootball.net/chronicles
100%. That will change club's approaches to it.
This should happen once the "Pot A, Pot B" draw is removed to give an NPL team an easy run through.
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I don't understand the need to shoot down the club because of one loss. As far as I can tell, most a-league clubs have had similar preparation to us, which is understandable as the season is 2 months away.
We finally have an owner and the chance of stability is as good as its ever been. It won't happen overnight. Miller can't discard the entire squad in the off-season and sign 23 new blokes. From what I've seen so far, he's made some good decisions. Carney leaving, to be replaced by Ugar & Nordstrand resulted in a much improved second half of the season. Brown looks a quality import, and Nabbout showed more the other night than I expected.
If Lee wants us to succeed in Asia, give him time to make the changes necessary to make it happen. It's not simply signing a few marquees and it will happen. We've complained so often about the club admin being a shambles - give him time to rebuild it - and give the new guys behind the scenes time to implement whatever it is that will make the club run better.
The impatience on here is astounding sometimes, and unfortunately some people are too blinkered to look past the fact that Lee, McKinna and Miller are not responsible for the rubbish and mismanagement that was dished up over the last 6-8 years.
you cant run before you can walk.
and we've been struggling to even roll over let alone sit up or crawl.
I think it's ironic people calling for patience after how ever many years of no finals football.
1. Miller hates making subs
2.We need a striker
3. Mullen is our worst player (why not give Jackson a go)
4.BK is not a No1 keeper
5.How many goals will we concede with BK, Mullen at the back and Boogard and Kanta getting their regular red cards through the season ?
6. Midfield is a positive for us this season
Did you read the part where I said Miller, Lee and McKinna had nothing to do with making this club a basketcase? Yet you want them to perform miracles.
The irony is the constant call for stability, and people thinking stability is created overnight.
Did you read the part where I referenced you? Or did you jump the gun? I'm not siding with anyone. There has just been numerous calls for calm and patience from others then yourself.
I love how from points 1-5 you were just bashing us over the head with an iron bar then point 6 you were like "here's 2 Nurofen go have a lie down".
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