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    Betting would explain this post from McKinna

    1 all after 4 mins in the 2 Ned half. Cowburn came on at half time and then ref put him off for some reason not sent off but unsure why and Eastern scored against 10 men debate now going on at the side of the park

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    We win we win 2-1.... BK concede again FFS!!!!
    Dare to Zlatan

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    He won't make that mistake at Newcastle since our team is full of number 2's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lquiquer View Post
    We win we win 2-1.... BK concede again FFS!!!!
    they had to cheat by leaving us a man short to get past him though - they must have been p*ssed off JD wasn't in goal, coulda put at least three past him...
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    BK training.jpg

    and I want that training shirt!
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    Quote Originally Posted by stopper2 View Post
    Good sign with Miller having Ugarkovic and Brown in the middle that he is thinking more positively this season. Whether the formation was 4-4-2 or 4-1-3-2 I hope we don't go back to 2 holding or screening mids when the season starts. For years we've been playing mainly with 2 holding mids and yes it was effective in 06/07 and 07/08 but the game has changed since then and you need to make fast, swift transitions in attack getting numbers forward. If you have 2 holding mids screening the back four you are essentially losing a man in attack.
    2 Holding mids works really these days if you play with 3 out of the back.
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    Pretty sure she won't be going on Hawk's yacht this summer.

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    I just don't see a team here that will be playing A-league finals football anytime soon.
    The defence looks as piss weak as last season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dunster View Post


    I just don't see a team here that will be playing A-league finals football anytime soon.
    The defence looks as piss weak as last season.
    That's because it is the same blokes who gave Birraz a solid work out every week


    Only difference is tis season we don't have him and have Duncan instead.

    That and they are all a year older and slower

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    I mean that's 2 poor games in a row by BK.

    Can we cut him to open up a squad spot to sign Steve Lustica?

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    Quote Originally Posted by plague View Post
    I mean that's 2 poor games in a row by BK.

    Can we cut him to open up a squad spot to sign Steve Lustica?
    That's JD in a different coloured shirt mate....trick for young players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    That's because it is the same blokes who gave Birraz a solid work out every week


    Only difference is tis season we don't have him and have Duncan instead.

    That and they are all a year older and slower
    Your point about the GK I agree, but older and slower defenders?

    Boogaard (30)
    Hoffman (27)
    Mullen (26)
    Cowburn (21)
    Jackson (21)
    Vujica (19)

    Boogaard was never the quickest defender, but I can't see him being any slower than last year. The rest of them are young enough to not be losing speed any time soon, and being a year older is probably an advantage for everyone in that list bar the captain. Before you jump on it though, I will agree that our defence as a whole could be improved, and I'm hoping Miller does that when a few contracts run out, but it's definitely no worse than last year (GK aside).

    Keep in mind they played a lot of games with Watson in front of them giving up possession more often than I could count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by halo se7en View Post
    Your point about the GK I agree, but older and slower defenders?

    Boogaard (30)
    Hoffman (27)
    Mullen (26)
    Cowburn (21)
    Jackson (21)
    Vujica (19)

    Boogaard was never the quickest defender, but I can't see him being any slower than last year. The rest of them are young enough to not be losing speed any time soon, and being a year older is probably an advantage for everyone in that list bar the captain. Before you jump on it though, I will agree that our defence as a whole could be improved, and I'm hoping Miller does that when a few contracts run out, but it's definitely no worse than last year (GK aside).

    Keep in mind they played a lot of games with Watson in front of them giving up possession more often than I could count.
    No one has seen Vujica yet so unable to comment on him

    Cowburn and Mullen are not quick at all and it is noticeable how slow they are when done over by speed.
    Boogaard is as you said slow

    Hoffman isn't slow but he ain't quick either.

    So that's 3 of your 4 first choice back 4 from last year below par on the speed front

    The lack of speed in the group leads to problems such as needless free kicks pens cards ad send offs as well as increased shots reigned down on your keeper.

    Millertime has made signings in the front 3rd and midfield but I am surprised this area hasn't been significantly strengthened as it is a cornerstone of a successful side.. Our defence last season wasn't exactly the greatest anyway so going in with same same bar Birraz seems rather naive

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    Vujica is definitely slowing down. It's well known that slavs age extremely quickly. Not that I'm a racialist: this is just plain, phrenological fact.

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    What Boogaard lacks in speed he makes up for in red cards. Oh wait...

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    and I want that training shirt!
    Gradients should never be on Football shirts, ask anyone here. Don't be silly.

    I'll also take one while you're at the shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    No one has seen Vujica yet so unable to comment on him

    Cowburn and Mullen are not quick at all and it is noticeable how slow they are when done over by speed.
    Boogaard is as you said slow

    Hoffman isn't slow but he ain't quick either.

    So that's 3 of your 4 first choice back 4 from last year below par on the speed front

    The lack of speed in the group leads to problems such as needless free kicks pens cards ad send offs as well as increased shots reigned down on your keeper.

    Millertime has made signings in the front 3rd and midfield but I am surprised this area hasn't been significantly strengthened as it is a cornerstone of a successful side.. Our defence last season wasn't exactly the greatest anyway so going in with same same bar Birraz seems rather naive
    I agree with all of that, although my point was more around them not being any worse than last season based on being older or slower.

    I'd say Miller is possibly waiting for contracts to run out. Boogaard and Mullen's contracts are too big to be sitting on the bench, and unless other clubs have come knocking on our door (doubtful) they aren't going to leave & give up those $$. Lee shipping out our captain & local lad after sitting in the hot seat for 5 minutes wouldn't have gone down very well.

    Did we ever solve that argument on whether paid out players count towards the cap?

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    ^^^^
    Just my 2 cents on the "speed" argument. "Speed" between the ears is more important then any physical speed.
    The best defenders are the ones who are not blessed with athleticism (though that does help) but the ones who read the game really well and are one step ahead of their attackers. For example Boogs' bad discipline record is not because he is an overly aggressive player, it's mainly because he gets himself in positions where he has to make a rash split-second decision such as a miss-timed tackle or having to commit a professional foul by shirt-tugging/holding etc.
    He can look back on his discretions from last year and hopefully learn from them and be a bit smarter this season but the truth is most defenders (and players in general) either have or don't have this uncanny ability to read the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stopper2 View Post
    ^^^^
    Just my 2 cents on the "speed" argument. "Speed" between the ears is more important then any physical speed.
    The best defenders are the ones who are not blessed with athleticism (though that does help) but the ones who read the game really well and are one step ahead of their attackers. For example Boogs' bad discipline record is not because he is an overly aggressive player, it's mainly because he gets himself in positions where he has to make a rash split-second decision such as a miss-timed tackle or having to commit a professional foul by shirt-tugging/holding etc.
    He can look back on his discretions from last year and hopefully learn from them and be a bit smarter this season but the truth is most defenders (and players in general) either have or don't have this uncanny ability to read the game.
    You can see the cogs turning in the heads of many Jets players as they decide whether or not to pass, dribble, shoot, or more often than not turn the ball over.
    Some coaches think you can get around slow mindedness by increasing athleticism but if the Jets are anything to go by that's clearly not the case.
    I find Boogs to be off the mark both mentally and athletically for someone on the type of coin he's on.
    He will be a worthwile addition to out team on a relevant wage but to pay him 200k plus is just downright madness.

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    The very handsome Carnavaro won worlds best player being slow but awesome and he then worked out how to regrow hair.

    That's what the jets need.

    Mascherano is 4'6" and played centre back for best team in cosmos.

    Keep the bloody ball = less defending.

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    Valderamma was one of the best I can remember when it came to reading a game
    When he had the ball it looked like he had forever before anyone came near him.
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