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    I worry some people here have rose coloured glasses about some of the teams just above us, I would say only the top three teams have superior quality, the other four may have a few stars that can make a difference but on balance are not better squads than us, only difference is they are playing more coherently more often even their donkey players, and that probably has more to do with what their coaching staffs are achieving with them and the belief they have instilled in them, something that our coaches seem unable to fulfil.

    My greatest fear is we still won't draw higher calibre uncontracted players in the vein of Castro until they can see we're a team worth joining, and that is influenced by how we play and what direction the coaches are leading us. The Petratos situation was a farce, we get stuck with the Brodie Mooy version instead of the Aaron one we wanted, we're going backwards instead of forwards again, I fear the offseason will be worse than the transfer window as far as the Adelaide juniors and all-age players we're gonna herald as our big signings, and I don't see it changing till we get a Gombau in charge who knows what they are doing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by turbojetfireV8 View Post
    I worry some people here have rose coloured glasses about some of the teams just above us, I would say only the top three teams have superior quality, the other four may have a few stars that can make a difference but on balance are not better squads than us, only difference is they are playing more coherently more often even their donkey players, and that probably has more to do with what their coaching staffs are achieving with them and the belief they have instilled in them, something that our coaches seem unable to fulfil.

    My greatest fear is we still won't draw higher calibre uncontracted players in the vein of Castro until they can see we're a team worth joining, and that is influenced by how we play and what direction the coaches are leading us. The Petratos situation was a farce, we get stuck with the Brodie Mooy version instead of the Aaron one we wanted, we're going backwards instead of forwards again, I fear the offseason will be worse than the transfer window as far as the Adelaide juniors and all-age players we're gonna herald as our big signings, and I don't see it changing till we get a Gombau in charge who knows what they are doing...
    It's all good. Apparently great players are going to just fall in Jones' lap in the off-season, begging to be signed.

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    Agents drop players in our lap... and Jones is such an astute judge of talent that he went all in to sign Petratos, getting us stuck with the other Petratos while Dimi backs out of the deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbojetfireV8 View Post
    I worry some people here have rose coloured glasses about some of the teams just above us, I would say only the top three teams have superior quality, the other four may have a few stars that can make a difference but on balance are not better squads than us, only difference is they are playing more coherently more often even their donkey players, and that probably has more to do with what their coaching staffs are achieving with them and the belief they have instilled in them, something that our coaches seem unable to fulfil.

    My greatest fear is we still won't draw higher calibre uncontracted players in the vein of Castro until they can see we're a team worth joining, and that is influenced by how we play and what direction the coaches are leading us. The Petratos situation was a farce, we get stuck with the Brodie Mooy version instead of the Aaron one we wanted, we're going backwards instead of forwards again, I fear the offseason will be worse than the transfer window as far as the Adelaide juniors and all-age players we're gonna herald as our big signings, and I don't see it changing till we get a Gombau in charge who knows what they are doing...
    I'm not saying they are light years above us. But they certainly have a stronger squad in terms of depth along with the few stars you've mentioned. Until we decide to allocate serious funds to develop to this level we will forever keep fighting it out where we are.
    Victory and Sydney are lightyears above us in terms of depth, consistency, star power and standards.
    City far outweigh us in both depth and starpower.
    I used Perth as an example as they have a relatively strong starting lineup but you look towards the guys not making the team each week or coming off the bench. Oxborrow, Marinkovic, Garcia Grant. Couple that with star power of Castro, Taggart and Keogh. Over the course of a season that will always win out. They are a bit light at the back and it shows.
    Wanderers are a similar eg. Struggling obviously to find the net but you have a midfield of Dimas, Nichols, Martinez, Baccus, Pinatares, Melling. Far more depth in quality then us.
    In the end I seriously believe the table is a pretty accurate reflection on the strength of each squad. I'm slightly surprised by Brisbane being so high but I still believe they have a stronger squad overall then us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    Agents drop players in our lap... and Jones is such an astute judge of talent that he went all in to sign Petratos, getting us stuck with the other Petratos while Dimi backs out of the deal.
    We got $350k for a player who never even pulled the on the jersey. Move along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilso8948 View Post
    We got $350k for a player who never even pulled the on the jersey.
    With 8 months to secure another player in his place
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    Great. He's gone from Liaoning Whowin to Newcastle Wholose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeterpool View Post
    With 8 months to secure another player in his place
    Correct. Its not like he was committed for months and months and we developed our whole squad to suit. He didn't dump us in it last minute. Would be nice to see the hourly rate we actually gained for that investment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilso8948 View Post
    We got $350k for a player who never even pulled the on the jersey.
    has that figure ever been verified?
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    Quote Originally Posted by plague View Post
    has that figure ever been verified?
    I thought $150,000 was quoted from media sources.
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    Great. He's gone from Liaoning Whowin to Newcastle Wholose.
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    Nah totally Zones fault right! Jones was busy serving a suspension, thinking he's playin' with the bog boys.

    Totally justifying cancelling my membership every week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeterpool View Post
    I thought $150,000 was quoted from media sources.
    I 'heard' the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilso8948 View Post
    We got $350k for a player who never even pulled the on the jersey. Move along.
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    I thought $150,000 was quoted from media sources.
    Total transfer fee of $350k
    our share is $150k according to sources
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    At what point is pressure going to be applied to Jones in the media? He can't continue to deflect blame to other reasons forever
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeterpool View Post
    At what point is pressure going to be applied to Jones in the media? He can't continue to deflect blame to other reasons forever
    Slow down

    He inherited this rabble of shite a couple of weeks before the season started.

    We were ****ed the moment Miler pushed The Chinese Lightsalesman too far and got the arse.

    Jntil Jones has had a pre season to train the side appropriately and bring in appropriate level players then your just pissing into the wind saying he cant cut it at this level

    So far he has had no backing from above.Be has just been handed the reigns to this runaway wagon and to exoect him to perform miracles with this shower of shite players is asking too much of anyone.


    The issue is up to the Chinese Light Salesman to back our manager appropriately with adequate resources in staffing and players regardless of who is manager

    It up to him to show some ****ing leadership

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    Slow down

    He inherited this rabble of shite a couple of weeks before the season started.

    We were ****ed the moment Miler pushed The Chinese Lightsalesman too far and got the arse.

    Jntil Jones has had a pre season to train the side appropriately and bring in appropriate level players then your just pissing into the wind saying he cant cut it at this level

    So far he has had no backing from above.Be has just been handed the reigns to this runaway wagon and to exoect him to perform miracles with this shower of shite players is asking too much of anyone.


    The issue is up to the Chinese Light Salesman to back our manager appropriately with adequate resources in staffing and players regardless of who is manager

    It up to him to show some ****ing leadership
    Please tell us what tactical nous, Leadership and motivational skills Jones has shown this year???? We had a fit LB and he plays a DM at LB. Strikers who arnt suited to 1 up front but he persists with that system. Other players playing gobshite yet always get picked and other players getting 10 mins or less off the bench every few weeks to impress. Not to mention his usless subs where he subs just for the sake of subs or waits till the last few minutes when were losing to change anything. None of what i have stated is down to lack of pre season or funds, Its down to Jones being soo far out of his depth and were all suffering because if it
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    Quote Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET View Post
    Please tell us what tactical nous, Leadership and motivational skills Jones has shown this year???? We had a fit LB and he plays a DM at LB. Strikers who arnt suited to 1 up front but he persists with that system. Other players playing gobshite yet always get picked and other players getting 10 mins or less off the bench every few weeks to impress. Not to mention his usless subs where he subs just for the sake of subs or waits till the last few minutes when were losing to change anything. None of what i have stated is down to lack of pre season or funds, Its down to Jones being soo far out of his depth and were all suffering because if it
    Any coach / manager would be out of their depth with that squad. Our two leading scorers were rejects from other clubs ffs.
    We buy the players nobody else wants and we pay them a lot more than they are worth.
    The problems at the Jets are a lot greater than Jones - in fact he wasn't on the sidelines last night and the club took their biggest loss of the season.

    If the Jets had won last night you would have been praising Zane as being a better coach than Jones.
    But because the Jets Lost you are silent on Zane's effort.

    It's not the coach/manager - it's the entire package that is retarded from the fans to the owner - the club is shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dunster View Post
    Any coach / manager would be out of their depth with that squad. Our two leading scorers were rejects from other clubs ffs.
    We buy the players nobody else wants and we pay them a lot more than they are worth.
    The problems at the Jets are a lot greater than Jones - in fact he wasn't on the sidelines last night and the club took their biggest loss of the season.

    If the Jets had won last night you would have been praising Zane as being a better coach than Jones.
    But because the Jets Lost you are silent on Zane's effort.

    It's not the coach/manager - it's the entire package that is retarded from the fans to the owner - the club is shit.
    Zane did well last time he was head coach. Zane would be using Jones tactics and subs choices as he is the assistant
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    Quote Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET View Post
    Zane did well last time he was head coach. Zane would be using Jones tactics and subs choices as he is the assistant
    Last time Zane coached us he had Griff Carney Birraz Jaliens Heskey Taggart Goodwin Beard Zads etc

    A slightly better personsel than the shit we have rigt now.

    Go watch Zane coach the Yood to see he still has a lot to learn

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    Quote Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET View Post
    Please tell us what tactical nous, Leadership and motivational skills Jones has shown this year???? We had a fit LB and he plays a DM at LB. Strikers who arnt suited to 1 up front but he persists with that system. Other players playing gobshite yet always get picked and other players getting 10 mins or less off the bench every few weeks to impress. Not to mention his usless subs where he subs just for the sake of subs or waits till the last few minutes when were losing to change anything. None of what i have stated is down to lack of pre season or funds, Its down to Jones being soo far out of his depth and were all suffering because if it
    I agree we need to sugn specialist full backs

    Problem is Jones hasnt ****ing got any as the ****wit before him didnt sign any but signed 15 DMs for his park the bus plan

    As for his use of subs.

    This isnt FM
    The players that start should be expected to play 90 mins so there is no need to make a sub for the sake of it.

    Secondly the players we have on the bench aint any ****ing better than the players on the park.

    We have at the end of the day a very shit squad

    A shit squad who last night ****ed up every chance they had as they are incompetent and constantly passed it needlessly to opponents as they just not good enough

    It time for some **** to set some standards at the club and stop accepting mediocrity

    I actually pleased this happened as it is putting The Chinese Light Salesman in the spotlight.

    To get this club up to spec. He needs to open the ****ing wallet and stop being a tight ****
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