I hope this doesn't get ugly.
54 is way too young.
Originally Posted by Blackmac79
ding dong
she was a horrendous, awful person and should be remembered as such
cancer is an indiscriminate, uncaring foe and no one deserves it
Here comes all the Australian media personalities who stayed the f*** away from her the last 18 months due to her dribble onto social media to say how great she was.
There's only one thing worse than Wilson & that's cancer.
Cancer is horrible and I wish it upon no one.
But let us never forget the subhuman that Wilson was. Glass houses or whatever.
OK
No one should go age 54......Hope RBB will have a round of applause 54th minute tomorrow
Dare to Zlatan
Originally Posted by Grimario
He won't make that mistake at Newcastle since our team is full of number 2's.
she made people uncomfortable with opinion based criticism of their beloved sport.
rather than deal with the issues she raised people found it easier to demonise her.
id say 95% of what she said was based on fact, and was sourced from people at the top of their sport.
remember she was mouth piece for David Gallop and others. Things that came through her were no doubt run by the boss first.
I always found the 'hate' for her so very weird. Everyone is going to point to the one article* outing the fans who were banned. But again, rather than deal with the transgressions that were alleged to have happened, or the system in place to deal with them, EVERYONE decided that it was all her fault.
You could then point to the fact that article was the tipping point to change the system and embarrass some of these idiots enough to reign in their behaviour.
but again, she's a **** for daring to mention it right?
a lot of people out there today cheering her death are the same people, who when they hear someone chant 'black lives matter' immediately counter with "YEAH, BUT WHAT ABOUT BLACK ON BLACK CRIME".
*does anyone have that article to post here? id never been able to read the whole thing, only the 'quotes' and other peoples opinions on it. As we all know, context and all. if someone could help out that would be dandy.
She broke Ben Kennedy's Achilles - how can you defend her ?
Check out this guy
I'm not sure that you understand the whole gripe with Wilson and WSW either. She had no right to publish those names and also likened Wanderers fans to terrorists in a subsequent interview. But no doubt she copped some horrendous abuse from that and other articles when she was alive. She was target because her obvious dislike of football reared its head many times.
I can't say I was a fan of her work but it's a terrible thing to happen to someone, horrible for her and those close to her.
Last edited by parksey; 09-10-2016 at 09:43 PM.
I checked him out. He's asking some valid questions and making some good points.Check out this guy
Exactly, hence why i asked if someone had the article so i can read it in full. The exerpts and editorial of it don't always cover context or nuance. You know that.I'm not sure that you understand the whole gripe with Wilson and WSW either.
Aren't you an aspiring Journo? Don't be so cheeky to say that anything that was printed didnt get ok'd by editors and legal first. Journos don't hand stuff in and get word for word representation. You know that. If anything the editor had to take the ultimate fall for it. Anyone know if that actually happened?She had no right to publish those names and also likened Wanderers fans to terrorists in a subsequent interview.
Death threats and people cheering her death? If that is the consequence of disliking football then Griff help us all.She was target because her obvious dislike of football reared its head many times.
and this is pretty much what I've said too. So you checked me out, and agreed with my ultimate sentiment. glad we got there. Thats why we get along so well Mr Parksey.I can't say I was a fan of her work but it's a terrible thing to happen to someone, horrible for her and those close to her.
I'm serious though, can someone please find this article?
and heres another.
THE Western Sydney Wanderers have enjoyed a rapid rise to the top of Australian sport with a team that can outperform just about any other in the A-League. The side's support base boasts numbers that are so phenomenal they are the envy of all professional footy clubs.
Yes, after just two years, the Wanderers are a fairytale, the darling of the FFA and certain elements of the Sydney media.
Testament to the fact that this is a very, very valuable brand is that the FFA plans to sell the club for nearly $15 million to a private consortium.
So what is it about this that makes my skin crawl? Why do I feel extremely uncomfortable when I see the so-called RBB (Red and Black Bloc) in full voice at an A-League game, replete with a lot more than happy ditties and bonhomie?
Certain fans who boast that they are RBB members hide their faces behind masks, rip hundreds of seats out of the stands so they can stand where they choose and smuggle flares into grounds despite a security presence that far outweighs most football games in Australia.
Authorities desperately grappling with the increasing menace of a core group of fans have no answer to the trouble.
They are generally dumbfounded when it comes to sourcing the culprits, reluctant to ban anyone who dares to drag a row of nailed-down seats out of the concrete.
In England, police have adopted a zero tolerance approach, insisting everyone sits in their own numbered seats.
That way, the culprits are far more easily identified and thrown out. There has been very little hint of trouble at any EPL game for years because the fans know they will cop a life ban if they behave badly.
Last weekend in Melbourne, the RBB and Victory fans engaged in a brawl away from the ground, in the middle of the city, that was menacing, ugly and violent. The Wanderers claim the Victory mob had revenge on their minds after a similar riot in Sydney when the two teams last clashed.
Two men, from the RBB, have been charged, one with causing serious injury and another with using a missile during the affray. They have been issued with bans of five years from any A-League games, instead of being handed life.
Both clubs have been charged with bringing the game into disrepute and threatened with the loss of competition points. But authorities are still no closer to guaranteeing a majority of the crowd who come to watch the game will be safe.
Five flares, firecrackers and a surging mass of ugliness from within the RBB caused mayhem at Melbourne's AAMI Stadium last Saturday night.
It might only be a "small minority", as I'm so sick of hearing, but they manage to create a violent atmosphere and continue to ride roughshod over police and security.
This is a natural outcome for a code hell bent on protecting its reputation, on pumping up the tyres of the RBB and their "wonderful" fan group that the bad element was allowed to thrive without boundaries.
At the club's derby against Sydney FC at Allianz Stadium in October, the SCG Trust was so deeply disturbed by a string of incidents that they received briefings from the highest echelons of the NSW Police force.
Hundreds of chairs were ripped out, flares and missiles were smuggled in and let off and the innocents caught in the middle of it were shocked that this could happen in Australia.
The defence puts out the statistic dozens are evicted from a Test cricket match or a big AFL game. They are generally charged with drunken behaviour and spend the night in the lockup. This, Wanderers fans say, is akin to their own bad element. But they forget that those arrested are rarely violent, and, if they try anything on, they are kicked out rapidly.
These fans are not part of a gang culture. They do not attend post-match "celebrations" with the intent of accosting rival fans, and they do not go for a quiet drink with missiles in their pockets.
The private consortium set to purchase the Wanderers has a golden opportunity to shrug off the criminal element in their club.
It can issue life bans, make every single fan sit in a numbered seat and bolster gate checks to ensure the weapons are not smuggled into the grounds.
The RBB might be the mascot for the A-League in the minds of those who have bought the public relations hype but until very bad people are meted out of the core group, the Wanderers have no right to call themselves a role model for anyone.
Man, I'm starting to think Rebecca Wilson is (was?) Captain Obvious on the foz
well then.BANNED football fans are thugs who have no place at family matches. Good riddance, I say. Most should be banned for life, not just for a few seasons.
They’re little more than suburban terrorists who spend their time disrupting games with fights, pitch invasions, flares, abusing fans from other teams and brawling outside pubs.
She wrote for the Tele, of course the editors would have ok'd it. Seriously though, on legal grounds I'm not sure where she would have stood, but considering every fan on the list was officially banned I don't think they would have had much of a leg to stand on in court.
The real question here is her moral right to disclose the information. The print edition featured the faces of many of the banned along with an inside page which listed most if not all of the names. Basically the guy who was banned after he fell of a chair was lumped in with the lads who organise punch ons in the car park. People lost their jobs because of this. It also featured under age people.
It was not in the public interest but was a juicy story, even if it did emit many key facts e.g. what each fan was banned for etc. as seen in the transcript.
Last edited by parksey; 09-10-2016 at 11:40 PM.
fair post. can't argue any of it.
agree with the big question being the 'moral' right. i guess thats always a hindsight thing though. i thought Senator Hinch naming child molesters using parliamentary privilege was a bit off but if i found out one of them was giving next door to me?
again though I'm fine with disagreeing with her. i just don't agree or understand the 'hate' and death threats.
silver lining though, without the article do the fans ever get their appeal process?
Even Severus Snape turned out to be on the right side of history.
The article got taken down - I assume because Wilson & her publisher etc were taken to court/forced to settle over the going-ons of how she got the information to produce the article. The main issue with the article was the information was leaked, by her, without FFA or police consent.
The other big issue people had was her beat-ups of events that happened in the football world that she would then completely ignore for the NRL/AFL world.
OK
Again, thats my point. The outrage wasn't, "hey look at these people who did the wrong* thing". The outrage was "how dare you tell everyone". Besides, without people leaking classified info MFKS would never have found out BK done 9/11.
I know this is a common theme with her but without an accurate register of her articles id bet many many trays of Cons finest mangos that its no where near true.The other big issue people had was her beat-ups of events that happened in the football world that she would then completely ignore for the NRL/AFL world.
She wrote way way way more negative articles about the NRL than soccer, it wouldn't even be close. You could argue she was more critical of soccer 'fans' than the NRL, but not the sport overall. As for AFL, well she's a sydney based journo, and for most of her career her reference point were the Sydney Swans, who over the last decade have been held up as one of the most professionally run sporting clubs in the country. She was certainly into the AFL/Essendon (and Cronulla) when the ASADA drugs scandal went on, and was more critical of James Hird than probably any one else ever.
Also, if you get a chance read up on her opinions of Nic D'arcy, Kerem Bulut and Andrew Fafita. All 3 pretty much had varying degrees of off field issues and she outed and criticised all 3 (including the sporting bodies who employed them), yet the blowback was interesting from each sets of those sports' "fans".
Last edited by plague; 07-10-2016 at 03:28 PM.
My dislike of the woman goes right back to the days of "Live and Sweaty" on ABC - at the end of one panel discussion on AFL/NRL, "don't forget the NSL Grand Final this weekend".
Wilson's response - "Who cares?"
She focussed too much on the negative for mine.
So you're both being petty?
What's your point here, other than admitting to watching shows like 'live and sweaty' in the hope of some hard hitting analysis and hot takes?
Just noting I never liked the woman - I don't see why we should suddenly change tack when someone passes on, however tragic.
Always reminds of this classic....
Last edited by Jetmaster; 07-10-2016 at 04:50 PM.
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