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    Quote Originally Posted by lquiquer View Post
    Not absurd... it quickly turns into 5-4-1 when played correctly and if we had technically better players it would be more effective... Joky said it: we are brave, chicky, positive... but .... I would add limited.
    Also turn in to 3-6-1 and you can flood the midfield as well

    But 3 at the back

    Is every dumb ****s reaction at the mere sound of the idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET View Post
    Brad Jones was superb for Fenyoord give him another chance.
    They tried to call him up and he declined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    Also turn in to 3-6-1 and you can flood the midfield as well

    But 3 at the back

    Is every dumb ****s reaction at the mere sound of the idea
    Was that your reaction? fitting.

    Good on Ange for trying something. At the moment we aren't able to play the formation very well.
    Our CB's are not ball playing and playing 3 at the back against world class opponents is a dangerous game.
    Our wing backs don't get back well enough, and their increased workload is taking some sting out of our attack as they get used to having to defend as well.
    Maybe Leckie is a better defender than he is in attack at the moment.
    We need a CDM in either Milligan or Jedinak to play holding. Leaving Mooy and Rogic to work the attack. It feels very defensive minded, but having shipped 7 goals in our last 2 games against decent opposition, it's kind of getting to the point of "we need to make this work, or try something else".
    While the formation itself is not absurd, everyone must know their role and responsibility.
    Persisting with something that clearly isn't working for whatever reason, makes it an absurd formation for us to play.
    I hope we improve with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung;18***1
    Was that your reaction? fitting.

    Good on Ange for trying something. At the moment we aren't able to play the formation very well.
    Our CB's are not ball playing and playing 3 at the back against world class opponents is a dangerous game.
    Our wing backs don't get back well enough, and their increased workload is taking some sting out of our attack as they get used to having to defend as well.
    Maybe Leckie is a better defender than he is in attack at the moment.
    We need a CDM in either Milligan or Jedinak to play holding. Leaving Mooy and Rogic to work the attack. It feels very defensive minded, but having shipped 7 goals in our last 2 games against decent opposition, it's kind of getting to the point of "we need to make this work, or try something else".
    While the formation itself is not absurd, everyone must know their role and responsibility.
    Persisting with something that clearly isn't working for whatever reason, makes it an absurd formation for us to play.
    I hope we improve with it.
    No

    Just because it isn't working well right now doesn't mean you throw the baby out with the bath water

    Ange is actually pushing us to get better. Just because it isn't flowing perfectly doesn't mean you quit on it

    The bloke has a fair ****ing clue about the game

    Yes he is pig headed in his approach but that is why the FFA appointed him

    He setting these blokes up to be better

    I quite content to be patient and put the onus on the useless players to stop making amatuer mistakes

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    Even if it costs us qualifying for the World Cup?
    You're happy for him to persist with something that doesn't work?
    Do wht you please against Brazil, confed cup, but the trial runs of this strategy aren't going too well.
    That's all well and good, but Ange is gone after the World Cup and it's probably gonna get
    Tossed out when a new coach comes in. We need to do what we can to win.
    I hope the players get better and it works for us. But if we are playing a game to send us to the World Cup, I hope we do something that works and suits us. If that's this new formation, great, if it's a 9-1-0 great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bremsstrahlung View Post
    Even if it costs us qualifying for the World Cup?
    You're happy for him to persist with something that doesn't work?
    Do wht you please against Brazil, confed cup, but the trial runs of this strategy aren't going too well.
    That's all well and good, but Ange is gone after the World Cup and it's probably gonna get
    Tossed out when a new coach comes in. We need to do what we can to win.
    I hope the players get better and it works for us. But if we are playing a game to send us to the World Cup, I hope we do something that works and suits us. If that's this new formation, great, if it's a 9-1-0 great.
    Why is that going to cost us qualifying for a World Cup??

    If we don't make the WC it be down to the players not being good enough or not performing well enough

    Have **** all to do with whether we played 3 or 4 or 5 at the back

    Other thing you might want to consider is that this system is where the game is heading

    Either with or without us


    In time you be seeing clubs all over playing this 3-4-3 and by that I mean UCL EPL La Liga National Teams etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    No

    Just because it isn't working well right now doesn't mean you throw the baby out with the bath water

    Ange is actually pushing us to get better. Just because it isn't flowing perfectly doesn't mean you quit on it

    The bloke has a fair ****ing clue about the game

    Yes he is pig headed in his approach but that is why the FFA appointed him

    He setting these blokes up to be better

    I quite content to be patient and put the onus on the useless players to stop making amatuer mistakes
    Ange is playing a system that doesnt suit the players he has at his disposable, The fans see it and the opposition teams see it hence why we are gifting them goals
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    Last time I looked it was 11 v 11 on the same patch of grass kick the ball in the ****ing net and win.

    All this formation bullshit is a convienient distraction from the fact we think we're any good when we have shitcunce like Jedinak and Ryan in the team.

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    What happened in the NZ vs Mexico game, Heard the Mexican coach swore at the NZ coach, Anyone watch it?
    Quote Originally Posted by lquiquer View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by plague View Post
    Last time I looked it was 11 v 11 on the same patch of grass kick the ball in the ****ing net and win.

    All this formation bullshit is a convienient distraction from the fact we think we're any good when we have shitcunce gypos in the team.
    Fixed

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    Fixed
    Yeah because Ryan, Sainsbury, Jedinak and Rogic are the biggest issue with this team.... seriously though, do you guys support our national team or does this lame gypo hating thing really consume your whole life?
    The way our team is going, take those 4 out and we go from battlers to Absolutely no chance!

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    The number of gypos in the NT is more of a brutal assessment on how bad we (Newy) have been in identifying, nurturing & developing talent over the years tbh
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    Gersbach is doing excellent so far!

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    This formation is rubbish how much evidence does Ange need

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    Chile are going to destroy us something fearce

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    Quote Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET View Post
    Chile are going to destroy us something fearce
    Sanchez is already counting his goals!
    He will have a field day with the space we are giving in those wider areas. This formation needs to change, how long can it go on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftrightout View Post
    Sanchez is already counting his goals!
    He will have a field day with the space we are giving in those wider areas. This formation needs to change, how long can it go on?
    You can't play a back 3 unless your centre halfs have pace and your wing backs can actually cross. We have none of these. None of the players even look like they know their roles or where to run etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftrightout View Post
    Yeah because Ryan, Sainsbury, Jedinak and Rogic are the biggest issue with this team.... seriously though, do you guys support our national team or does this lame gypo hating thing really consume your whole life?
    The way our team is going, take those 4 out and we go from battlers to Absolutely no chance!
    It not lame to hate on the Gypos

    It ain't something you turn on and off like a tap

    They be forever Gypos

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    Quote Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET View Post
    You can't play a back 3 unless your centre halfs have pace and your wing backs can actually cross. We have none of these. None of the players even look like they know their roles or where to run etc.
    Has nothing too do with pace

    These CDs are struggling with a couple of simple concepts

    They not playing the first to the ball concept
    They not marking their man tight enough when necessary
    They also struggling with the zonal set up
    They also seem to be buck passing going on at the back in that they seem to be leaving it to someone else

    These all technical failings from the blokes playing and things they should be more than capable of doing

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    It not lame to hate on the Gypos

    It ain't something you turn on and off like a tap

    They be forever Gypos
    So you going to hate ODonovan all year?
    You telling me you never celebrated Sasho scoring for us?

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