Hows Kale Bradbery? How many years did you go on about him, pretty sure he fits everything you just said.Originally Posted by MFKS
Hows Kale Bradbery? How many years did you go on about him, pretty sure he fits everything you just said.
It's logical if you are prepared to accept mediocrity within the squad
Playing for this club should be a privilege not handed around ightly.
If blokes in our current squad are not deemed good enough why keep them here paying them every week??
Fat load of good it done us keeping Pavicevic Brennan Copper etc
If they ain't wanted get rid of them straight away
Kokko and Brown if they can be released free up a foreigner spot that worth more than cash if utilised well
As for these blokes improving under a new manager.
Yeah I sure Boogaard is gonna stop getting caught out for speed and giving away fouls and pens all because Jones isn't the man any more
Some people live in a world of delusion about the quality of the current squad
Can you imagine....the Foz without the Jets
The Championship Chronicles - The Jetstream's review of the 2007/08 season. www.newcastlefootball.net/chronicles
Member, how do you propose we pay all these new much better players you are suggesting we get after we blow half our cap terminating everyone's contract? Brown, Boogaard and Kokko would all easily be on well in excess of $100k a year, so are you basically saying "let's burn $300-500k of our cap space and fill it with much better players using the no money we have left because we spent it sacking blokes"?
Talk about living in a world of delusion.
Was just about to say the same thing Grim.
It's all fine to sprout what to fix, but the Member needs to stop pontificating. He has the plan, so give us the nuts and bolts of how to get rid of said players, put a cost on that to come out of the cap and then tell us how to spend the remainder and what sort of players we'll get.
No more "get rid of the deadwood and bring in better players". Just tell us, with figures, how???
By paying them out, you instantly cut your salary cap and the amount of $$$ we can spend on the replacement.
It's just not as simple as paying them out and getting someone better in. With your logic, they would need to be better but cheaper because a portion of their salary was used up to make room for them.
The point is, you can't do them all at once all you eat your salary cap up paying them out and replacing them. Then you are still trying to fill the gaps left by the guys that haven't had their contract renewed.
Haven't we already burnt the money already by paying them ??
Massive chunks of our salary cap is already gone paying them.amyway
I just of the opinion instead of letting these blokes stay in Newy sucking the mango doing **** all give them their money and send them on their way
They only here taking opportunity from some other bloke who might actually represent us with pride and passion 30 matches in the season rather than the incumbents who don't do the job for their 27 week season
So... you want us to get rid of these 3 players using 15-20% of the salary cap and replace them with absolute nobodies on minimum wage who you think care more? Why not just let them play out their contract instead of signing NPL shit players or, worse, have a 20 man squad because the rest of the cap is already spent?
If the club can't find a better centre back than Boogs for half of what he's getting paid they should fold the club and hand back the licence.
Paying him out makes a lot of sense as well because as long as he's here his ridiculously high wage becomes the reference point for players negotiating a contract with the Jets.
Why would anyone want to work alongside someone that's inferior to them yet on double their wage ? IT would be morale sapping to say the least.
And this is not an attack on Boogs - Good on him for cutting himself a great deal. My gripe is with the club being piss weak at the negotiation table.
yes and its a wonder what a well classed credentialed manager can do to those players.
there was even a difference in the level of the players under Miller compared to Jones
Can you imagine....the Foz without the Jets
Ridiculous comment. Miller couldn't manage his own assistant and deservedly was shown the door.
he had the team playing boring as bat shit style football as well.
Jones at least had a go for most of the season but in the last ten games or so the team played like shit for reasons unknown. Perhaps Jones got it all wrong, perhaps players started to feel the pressure knowing they could be out of a job and thought throwing the Manager under the bus was the best way to save their jobs.
I'd like to think that neither the players or management / coaches are up to the job and all should be replaced.
Last edited by The Dunster; 20-04-2017 at 01:12 PM.
I get your point, particularly on Boogs. Jackson and Jonny K would both be on substantially less and dollar for dollar, both were far better than Boogaard. Also part of his shittiness was thinking he was Gerrard half the time. Just ****ing defend and stop pinging balls around.
Yeah, I agree. You have to wonder how differently Miller would have had us playing and whether Kokko would have been as isolated as he was this season. He came in with a great record in Finland, a goal every other game, a bunch of winners medals and I remember his first interview where he was clearly not lacking in confidence.
You have no idea how Miller intended to set things up this year though. Last year was clearly a consolidation with FFA squad and he had started to build his squad... what's to say he wasn't going to have them playing attacking football this season as well? Given we scored 21 goals in 8 pre-season games, far exceeding previous years (4 in 5, 20 in 9 which included 8 against Weston), why is your expectation that he would park the bus and play boring as bat shit football?
Wouldn't we be able to payout some of these players using this seasons unused cap space (10%?)?
and move some existing players outside the cap? youth allowances, etc?
How do you know we have 10% unused space? Given we sacked a bunch of blokes mid-season and everyone seems to think BK, BK and Boogs are on half a mill each, where is that 10% figure from?
And we can move out BK and BK if we re-sign either for next season under the Archie Loyalty Rule. Maybe Vujica and Cowburn or whoever qualifies for that youth stuff but all of that requires spending outside the cap to achieve.
Because against quality opposition when it mattered Miller always had the team set up as if they were in damage control rather than to inflict damage upon their opponents.
And if I remember correctly other Jets teams have managed to walk all over their pre-season opponents and yet it never translated into anything positive in the A-league.
If you feel so strongly about Millers departure why do you still support the club ?
Yeah that's exactly the thinking that got Jones sacked. i.e. NFI
What I do know is that we as fans don't see the books, don't know the salaries and don't know the constraints.
We can question all we like but we don't have access to the clubs finances.
If we can find clubs for some of these guys but they are offered less money than our wages, can we ship them off and only forfeit the extra amount from their contract with us?
i.e. Boogs contract = X
CCM sign him on contract worth 70% of X
We let him leave and only forfeit 30% of X from our salary cap?
I know that we can terminate by mutual consent but is there ways we push them out the door without paying the rest of their contract?
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