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    Apparently Thornton looking for a 19s coach

    BelSwans will field teams in each age group this year as will Stags

    Southy flogging their youth teams already: they'll be tired before the season starts. Apparently Dino is a done deal.

    The rest of the clubs are going under the radar a bit at the moment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter403 View Post
    Apparently Thornton looking for a 19s coach

    BelSwans will field teams in each age group this year as will Stags

    Southy flogging their youth teams already: they'll be tired before the season starts. Apparently Dino is a done deal.

    The rest of the clubs are going under the radar a bit at the moment

    What happened to the coach they already had?

    Aren't all youth teams already training? Also saw on NewySports that he had signed the player contract so unless he changes his mind and breaks it then it is sorted.

    As for the draft draw, yes it is floating around and Northern are allowing teams to change it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter403 View Post
    Apparently Thornton looking for a 19s coach

    BelSwans will field teams in each age group this year as will Stags

    Southy flogging their youth teams already: they'll be tired before the season starts. Apparently Dino is a done deal.

    The rest of the clubs are going under the radar a bit at the moment
    From what I hear, the Southy youth teams should not be playing NPL youth, the poor kids would not get much out of the results if true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by football_macigian23 View Post
    From all reports they were touched up playing age for age on the weekend, I think due to the heat and shuffling games? Looking at their Facebook they seemed to do quite well when they played the younger sides at Edgeworth. From experience usually NL1 clubs play the younger NPL to make them much more competitive?
    That's the usual deal. Interestingly, those results, age for age, were against Charlestown which is certainly not one of the stronger NPL Youth squads.

    The gap between NPL Youth and NEWFM youth is to great to play age for age.

    Given the preseason there should be no excuses for Southy's youth teams next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by football_macigian23 View Post
    They're definitely smashing out the games prior to Christmas.. Interesting to see whether their players handle the extra workload, something I don't think a lot of players would have had before..
    Someone told me they have had 5 games in like 2 weeks after about a week of training. One week they played Forster in Forster on the Sunday then Edgeworth on the Tuesday and someone else on the Sunday, in November. I like there enthusiasm but that seems ridicolous verging on careless surely some of these kids are playing futsal or cricket as well. That would be not only the kid but the parents commiting 5 to 6 days a week to sport in Novemeber in age groups where the bodies are growing very quickly. Recipe for injuries one would have thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dontknowmuch View Post
    Someone told me they have had 5 games in like 2 weeks after about a week of training. One week they played Forster in Forster on the Sunday then Edgeworth on the Tuesday and someone else on the Sunday, in November. I like there enthusiasm but that seems ridicolous verging on careless surely some of these kids are playing futsal or cricket as well. That would be not only the kid but the parents commiting 5 to 6 days a week to sport in Novemeber in age groups where the bodies are growing very quickly. Recipe for injuries one would have thought.
    I reckon you are dead right. Growing teenagers are susceptible to overwork as their skeletal growth outstrips their muscles. My son is in Youth NPL and their training load is way less, as is that of all of his mates at other NPL clubs.

    Still, I'm sure their teams will start like a scalded cat. The question will be whether or not they improve as the season progresses.

    There is also the school of thought that suggests kids should be involved in more than one sport to encourage other areas of development. Too much of one thing is not always good.

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    I reckon you are dead right. Growing teenagers are susceptible to overwork as their skeletal growth outstrips their muscles. My son is in Youth NPL and their training load is way less, as is that of all of his mates at other NPL clubs.

    Still, I'm sure their teams will start like a scalded cat. The question will be whether or not they improve as the season progresses.

    There is also the school of thought that suggests kids should be involved in more than one sport to encourage other areas of development. Too much of one thing is not always good.
    Sorry, but I can't agree with this soft approach. Kids should be able to run around each and everyday, even multiple times a day and come home exhausted before getting a good night's sleep and doing it all again the next day. Sitting on computer games will make them lethargic and stiffen up the muscles far more than outdoor games.
    Even if it is structured training or proper matches, the exercise is good for them and is essential if they want to go further in their sport. Sure it isn't for everyone, but it will do more good than harm, and well within virtually all kids capabilities. A different story for those of us over 40/50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by early_to_the_match View Post
    Sorry, but I can't agree with this soft approach. Kids should be able to run around each and everyday, even multiple times a day and come home exhausted before getting a good night's sleep and doing it all again the next day. Sitting on computer games will make them lethargic and stiffen up the muscles far more than outdoor games.
    Even if it is structured training or proper matches, the exercise is good for them and is essential if they want to go further in their sport. Sure it isn't for everyone, but it will do more good than harm, and well within virtually all kids capabilities. A different story for those of us over 40/50.
    No one said go soft. I said they could be overworked. It is common around 14 and 15. Most coaches are not qualified trainers beyond their c licence in the NPL and NEWFM Youth and have little or no qualifications in training kids physically.

    The concept of run them into the ground died out years ago. Exercise is good but too much can do harm.

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    No one said go soft. I said they could be overworked. It is common around 14 and 15. Most coaches are not qualified trainers beyond their c licence in the NPL and NEWFM Youth and have little or no qualifications in training kids physically.

    The concept of run them into the ground died out years ago. Exercise is good but too much can do harm.
    Coaches only have the kids a few times a week, and most of that is team and ball work. If players aren't doing at least 3 fitness sessions a week outside team training then they are just playing socially and sure couldn't be burnt out.
    Kids that get run into the ground at team training probably had very little fitness to begin with. You won't find any elite players in any sport that aren't doing way more than even the hardest training NewFM youth or senior teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by early_to_the_match View Post
    Coaches only have the kids a few times a week, and most of that is team and ball work. If players aren't doing at least 3 fitness sessions a week outside team training then they are just playing socially and sure couldn't be burnt out.
    Kids that get run into the ground at team training probably had very little fitness to begin with. You won't find any elite players in any sport that aren't doing way more than even the hardest training NewFM youth or senior teams.
    Well planned and delivered training involves ball/team and fitness . The players just don't know they are doing fitness because it involves a ball.

    No one said soft. No one said burnt out. I said overworked. Soft tissue injuries from over use when a body is growing is a reality.

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    Go and read the ffa corriculum policy, you’ll be surprised

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter403 View Post
    Well planned and delivered training involves ball/team and fitness . The players just don't know they are doing fitness because it involves a ball.

    No one said soft. No one said burnt out. I said overworked. Soft tissue injuries from over use when a body is growing is a reality.
    I just believe kids are far more durable than we give them credit for, but the overuse of computers, phones and gameboxes has made them soft and lazy. Certainly not all, but a vast majority.

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    It's a lot more difficult to be a kid today than it was fifty years ago. I wouldn't want to walk in their shoes for all the money in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dunster View Post
    It's a lot more difficult to be a kid today than it was fifty years ago. I wouldn't want to walk in their shoes for all the money in the world.
    Who said walking, they are talking about running

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverRed View Post
    Go and read the ffa corriculum policy, you’ll be surprised
    Surprised about what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by De-Champ View Post
    Who said walking, they are talking about running
    Sarcasm or Aspergers ? Genuine question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter403 View Post
    No one said go soft. I said they could be overworked. It is common around 14 and 15. Most coaches are not qualified trainers beyond their c licence in the NPL and NEWFM Youth and have little or no qualifications in training kids physically.

    The concept of run them into the ground died out years ago. Exercise is good but too much can do harm.

    Someone better tell the Emerging Jets who train 3 days a week plus a game a week year round except for 4 weeks around Christmas

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dunster View Post
    Sarcasm or Aspergers ? Genuine question.
    It's quite clearly a joke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter403 View Post
    Most coaches are not qualified trainers beyond their c licence in the NPL and NEWFM Youth and have little or no qualifications in training kids physically.
    Is this where you tell us you're a medical professional specialising in child physical development?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscheese View Post
    Someone better tell the Emerging Jets who train 3 days a week plus a game a week year round except for 4 weeks around Christmas
    yep, they do and they are careful not to over train but still get soft tissue problems.

    OVER TRAIN is the point you are missing

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