Word is that all but 1 NEWFM club has completed the EOI for NPL.
Some met the criteria some did not but all are being allowed to progress to submission stage. NNSW will work with those that didn't hit the criteria to try and get them there.
NNSW must really want an NPL2 up and running.
Biggest issue will be money and facilities. Councils just won't spend the $ that need to be spent to get grounds / facilities up to NPL standard.
I know my next statement doesn't cover all clubs as I know one club that doesn't.Originally Posted by Hunter403
By why should council throw money at these clubs for ground improvements? These clubs throw money hand over fist to get players to play for them and then these clubs cry poorman to the council to pay for ground improvements. Rather than spending x amount of money to not get promoted invest that money into your own Facilities.
These clubs were given NL1 licenses for 3 years and NPL clubs were given immunity from relegation for 3 years. Meaning that spending money on players would be a waste as clubs had no promotion to gain yet they still wasted that money when it could have been spent elsewhere.
These clubs have also been going for how many ****ing years now??
Why in the 50/100 years or so they been operating have their facilities not actually made it up to spec??
Westy
Southy
Wallsend
Awaba
Cessnock
Have all been top flight clubs in the last 20 years
So if there has been a EOI how come no Zone Clubs were invited to apply ? Or has Northern already decided what they want ?
I'm tired so this is all over the place...
No idea why no zone club was asked.
The Councils own the grounds. In Lake Mac you can't do anything to the ground without Council approval and in many instances they just won't give it. Additionally several NEWFM grounds are slated for facility upgrades over the next few years so there is no point spending the little money the clubs have on Council owned facilities that are going to be replaced.
The simple fact is that there are not enough grounds for a growing population and the Council has the responsibility to provide playing fields. That is why they collect s94 contributions from developers: to pay for these things. Grounds have to be improved as they are becoming overused and the facilities decrepit. We need new facilities for women's sport, disabled access etc..all things that weren't considered a few short years ago.
For most NEWFM clubs, who are tier 2 and unable to get the sponsorship dollars that the NPL clubs get, it is a matter of staying afloat financially unless you have a massive junior base and then you risk the argument of "the seniors are spending the kid's money". You talk about spending money on players...zone clubs are paying players so if you want the NEWFM to be the second tier, then the clubs have to pay.
To answer your question Member, NNSW don't have a facility criteria. You tell them what you have and they decide if it meets their criteria. Convenient. The facilities of those clubs that you mentioned were up to spec when they were last in the top grade, they just aren't now in most cases. No disabled access, no women's change rooms, no press box, no covered players race, no all weather seating ares. These requirements just weren't around before.
In several cases the facilities of the NEWFM club are superior to NPL clubs. For example, Valentine and Jaffas have pretty basic facilities that would be inferior to some NEWFM clubs.
At the end of the day, the better the ground, the better the football and that will only strengthen Australian football in the long term.
Premy, do you really think that the loss of promotion and relegation would stop the clubs doing what they could to win and to use that money on the ground? There are NPL clubs with budgets well over $100k to win a $10k prize. They put performance first because they are competitive. To think otherwise is a dream. Oh, and one of the criteria for NPL promotion is on field performance...
Please explain why awaba is " not up to spec " yes they share with the scorps, but make the trek there and you will find the best set up in NL1 and 90% of npl... the days of playing on mud because of the league are gone because of the irrigation and rye grass set up, inside parking , full fencing, new canteen , media room for viewing, granstands thd whole lot, so please tell me again why aren't awaba ms facilities not up to scratch
We aren't NL1, but facilities wise, we have had no issues with Council and approval of upgrades.
Our experience has been that as long as you find the funding they are very open to approve facility changes/upgrades.
And while Lake Mac council might have plans for these Newcastle council really don't care much about spending any money at all and then won't allow clubs to spend their own money to fix things (even reseeding fields) without their approval (which they rarely give).
Why would a club in a men's competition need women's change rooms? Though plenty of other clubs in NPL currently don't meet all of that criteria.To answer your question Member, NNSW don't have a facility criteria. You tell them what you have and they decide if it meets their criteria. Convenient. The facilities of those clubs that you mentioned were up to spec when they were last in the top grade, they just aren't now in most cases. No disabled access, no women's change rooms, no press box, no covered players race, no all weather seating ares. These requirements just weren't around before.
My point was that those clubs have been around for years and all were in the top flight at some stage in the last 20 years
So there is really no reason during this time as top flight clubs why any of these clubs facility wise should not be up to standard
So as a result half these clubs should be easily capable of making NPL requirements without scratching their arse
Capisce??
The standards were lower back then, look at the top clubs in the world and the difference between their facilities 20-30 years ago to now.
I don’t think he’s being negative in his appraisal of them.
My interpretation is that he’s saying they should meet the criteria.
I dare say a lot of clubs would be on par if not better than some of the NPL clubs like Jaffas, or Adamstown or Valentine.
Anyway, it’s all subjective which grounds are better.
Some decent signings announced by the stags on the weekend, with some more to come at a guess
Announced where?
Stags fb page and newy sports
Shameless promotion GA 😃😃
But seriously what happened at CCB
No loyalty for years of service
Go Away's young bloke isn't getting a look in at CCB while ever Goodchild and Smith are still playing.
Makes it very hard yes, but he was offered a spot at Azzurri by Tanch, just wants more game time then what he was getting, and Dmac knows him well from playing with Nathan and others in the Indigenous sides, so was a no brainer for him, pLus only 20, plenty of time for NPL, he is looking forward to this season at his junior club ( before Azzurri ).
Fair few U20 leaving, obviously believing the same theory as you stated, hard to get a crack for a young bloke under Tanch, but that's the way it is, I know of two to Toronto, Two to Belswans and one to Dudley from last year
is it not more "women friendly" change rooms than a women's change room., so individual shower cubicles, more secure change rooms that you can't see into from the entry door.
Again, why does a club participating in a men's competition need "women friendly" changerooms?
Cooks hill
Belswans
Southy
Westy
Stags
Wallsend
Thornton
New Lambton
Cessnock
Kahibah
Singleton
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