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    17/18 HAL Round 17 | Newcastle Jets v Wellington Dix | Sat 20th Jan 2018 5.35pm

    Jets to make another smashing performance after having heaps of days off.

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    Last start smashed the pussies 1-0. Could have been 7-5. had 87% possession, heaps of shots followed by a bevvy of craft beers.
    New boy Pato is coming along well. Everyone else is good unless they're injured
    Wello play against their old coach who they refused to play for. They look like bees and can only sting once then die.
    Head to head - 24 games Newy have won heaps & they had a shot shot once, lols way over but.

    Saturday arvo kick off with powered and non powered inflatables should make it a top night.

    Probs due for a draw arent we?

    *JP add all the other fictional stuff and that*
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    just a heads up, both Plague and Plague jnr will be attending, after missing out on every game in the current hot streak.

    adjust your expectations and gambling habits accordingly.

    lean towards on a scored draw, Plague Jnr is a special for it.
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    Hot, sunny afternoon predicted.

    Good luck Bay 1.

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    Definitely due for a draw or a loss and it would be typical jets to do it at home against last place.
    They have been very un-jets like this year though so i am still leaning towards another win.
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    A-League 2017/18 Round 17 Newcastle Jets v Wellington Phoenix

    FIXTURE FACTS
    Overall – 32 matches between the two teams.
    Jets Wins - 10, Phoenix Wins - 17, Drawn - 5

    In Newcastle – 15 matches.
    Jets Wins - 7, Phoenix Wins - 6, Drawn - 2
    In New Zealand - 17 matches
    Jets Wins - 3, Phoenix Wins - 11, Drawn - 3

    Average Home A-League Crowd – 9465
    Average Away A-League Crowd - 8535

    Goals in Fixture
    Jets – 41, Phoenix - 63
    In Newcastle -
    Jets – 29, Phoenix - 24

    1st Goals in Fixture
    Jets – 12, Phoenix - 19

    Cards in Fixture
    Jets - 63 (56 yellow, 7 red), Phoenix 49 (45 yellow, 4 red)

    Recent Form (A-League)
    Jets - WLDWW (10 point from last 15)
    Phoenix - LDLWD (5 points from last 15)

    Leading Scorers
    Jets - Roy O'Donovan, Andrew Nabbout (7)
    Phoenix – Andija Kaluderovic (9)

    Last Result -
    Newcastle Jets 3 (O'Donovan 37', O'Donovan 45+1', Nabbout 54') - Wellington Phoenix 0 at McDonald Jones Stadium, A-League, Round 5, Season 2017/18

    Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 2017/18 Round 5
    Newcastle Jets Wellington Phoenix
    Jack Duncan Keegan Smith
    Jason Hoffman Daniel Mullen
    Nigel Boogaard Andrew Durante
    Nikolai Topor-Stanley Thomas Doyle
    Ivan Vujica Ali Abbas
    Steven Ugarkovic Goran Paracki
    Ben Kantarovski Guilherme Finkler
    Dimitri Petratos Michael McGlinchey
    Joe Champness Dario Vidosic
    Andrew Nabbout Roy Krishna
    Roy O'Donovan Andrija Kaluderovic

    FIXTURE RECORDS

    Biggest Win
    Jets 5 (Heskey 36’, Griffiths 46’, Taggart 57’, Taggart 77’, Bridges 90+3’) – Phoenix 0 at Hunter Stadium, Round 24, Season 2013/14, 22/03/2014.

    Heaviest Defeat
    Jets 0 – Phoenix 5 (Barbarouses 24', Finkler 36', Ridenton 49', Hoffman 66' o.g, Bonevacia 86'), Round 24, Season 2016/17 at Westpac Stadium, 26/03/2017.

    Leading Scorers in fixture –

    Jets - Joel Griffiths (4)
    Phoenix - Shane Smeltz (6)


    2017/18 SEASON STATISTICS
    Number Name Appearances Starts Subbed On Subbed off Minutes Played Goals Assists Yellow Cards Red Cards
    1 Jack Duncan 7 7 0 0 630 0 0 0 0
    3 Jason Hoffman 13 11 2 5 984 3 1 2 0
    4 Nigel Boogaard 15 15 0 0 1350 0 0 2 0
    5 Ben Kantarovski 13 13 0 4 1114 3 0 3 0
    6 Steven Ugarkovic 16 16 0 3 1426 1 2 1 0
    7 Dimitri Petratos 16 16 0 4 1427 6 5 2 0
    8 Ronald Vargas 3 3 0 3 197 0 1 0 0
    9 Roy O'Donovan 7 6 1 0 571 7 2 3 0
    10 Wayne Brown 13 7 6 5 651 0 0 3 0
    11 Patricio Rodriguez 2 0 2 0 79 1 0 0 0
    12 Mario Shabow 7 0 7 0 90 0 0 1 0
    13 Ivan Vujica 15 15 0 1 1341 0 2 5 0
    14 Riley McGree 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    15 Andrew Nabbout 16 16 0 6 1384 7 6 3 0
    16 Nick Cowburn 5 0 5 0 104 0 0 0 0
    17 Daniel Georgievski 9 9 0 4 642 1 1 4 0
    18 John Koutroumbis 10 5 5 2 463 2 0 2 0
    19 Kosta Petratos 4 0 4 0 27 0 0 0 0
    20 Glen Moss 9 9 0 0 810 0 0 0 0
    Lachlan Jackson 5 1 4 0 139 0 0 0 0
    23 Devante Clut 5 1 4 1 59 0 0 0 0
    24 Joe Champness 15 10 5 8 910 3 1 1 0
    44 Nikolai Topor-Stanley 16 16 0 0 1440 0 0 1 0


    COACHING
    Coaches Head to Head – 1 matches
    Ernie Merrick - 1 win, Darije Kalezic - 0 wins, 0 drawn

    Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –
    • Ernie Merrick - 1 matches (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 losses = 100% win ratio)
    • Mark Jones - 3 matches (0 wins, 1 drawn, 2 losses = 0% win ratio)
    • Scott Miller - 3 matches (3 wins, 0 drawn, 0 losses = 100% win ratio)
    • Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (0 wins, 1 draw, 2 losses = 0% win ratio)
    • Gary Van Egmond – 12 matches (3 wins, 3 drawn and 6 losses = 25% win ratio)
    • Richard Money - No matches
    • Branko Culina – 7 matches (2 wins, 0 drawn, 5 losses = 29% win ratio)
    • Nick Theodorakopoulos - No Matches
    • Craig Deans - 1 Match (0 win, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
    • Clayton Zane – 2 matches (1 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 50% win ratio)


    Wellington Phoenix Coach Record – Darije Kalezic 0% win ratio (0 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss)



    TALKING POINTS:

    General
    • Newcastle are undefeated against the Nix at home across the last 3 seasons.
    • And the Jets haven't been kept scoreless against Phoenix at home since November 2012.
    • The Jets have conceded six 2nd half goals this season.

    Key Stats from Previous Round
    • First time since 22/3/2014 we have kept consecutive clean sheets.
    • First time since 2/2/2007 we have kept 3 consecutive HOME clean sheets.
    • We have won 4 consecutive home games for the first time since 2011, when we won the last home game of 2010/11 season and first 3 home games of 2011/12 season.
    • Last time we won 4 consecutive home games in a season was2008, which included the Semi-final against Mariners and Preliminary final against Roar.

    Players
    • Angus Thurgate is the 160th player to appear for the Jets in the A-League
    • Ernie Merrick has given 10 A-League debuts this year, so far.
    • Daniel Georgievski is 1 yellow card from a 1 week suspension.

    Newcastle Jets
    • 33 points this season is a higher tally that all but 5 of the last 12 seasons.
    • We are 9 points ahead of the previous best season at this point in time – season 2005/06 (the first season of the A-League).
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    Great. He's gone from Liaoning Whowin to Newcastle Wholose.
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    Can Ernie tell Gorgeous George that if he feels injured to get a yellow on the way off so he can serve his suspension while out anyway.

    Cause we all know he’s getting that card soon anyway.

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    Have we had anyone sent off this season ? I can’t think of any

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    Have we had anyone sent off this season ? I can’t think of any
    So your saying Boogaard is due ??

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    New welly player looks decent will have to close him down
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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    Have we had anyone sent off this season ? I can’t think of any
    Not to date
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    Great. He's gone from Liaoning Whowin to Newcastle Wholose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    So your saying Boogaard is due ??
    Little bit..

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    Does anyone think that now we are 2nd on the ladder refs aren't treating us as poorly as they have in the past ? I'm not saying we are getting SFC type treatment or that Brisbane didn't get away with a bit last week - but overall, I think we are getting the benefit of the doubt on a lot of close calls.

    I find myself abusing the refs a lot less this season anyway.

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    I've got the data on Fouls per card over the time, and we're managing to concede almost an extra foul per card this year. We're about on trend with our history.

    Our average cards per game is around the same as it was around Miller's time (2.06 now, 2.00 in 15/16). BUt what I think is making the difference is that the opposition are getting booked at a rate they haven't in the club's history.



    Currently the opposition are receiving 2 cards per game. I'd have to do some manipulation on data for the fouls per card. But put this in perspective, in Stubbins' season, the opposition received 0.7 (yes, that's right) cards per game. We were receiving 2.48.

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    Except smurfs who are untouchable as per FFA mandate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeterpool View Post
    I've got the data on Fouls per card over the time, and we're managing to concede almost an extra foul per card this year. We're about on trend with our history.

    Our average cards per game is around the same as it was around Miller's time (2.06 now, 2.00 in 15/16). BUt what I think is making the difference is that the opposition are getting booked at a rate they haven't in the club's history.



    Currently the opposition are receiving 2 cards per game. I'd have to do some manipulation on data for the fouls per card. But put this in perspective, in Stubbins' season, the opposition received 0.7 (yes, that's right) cards per game. We were receiving 2.48.

    Anyway you can take into account possession % with those card numbers? It's easier to understand opposition getting 0.7 cards per game if we only had the ball for 25-30% of the time. Even though Merrick isn't all about possession, we certainly appear to have more of it than recent years. Does his 2.06 sit with an average of 45% possession whereas Stubbins 2.48 is the same number per possession %?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    Anyway you can take into account possession % with those card numbers? It's easier to understand opposition getting 0.7 cards per game if we only had the ball for 25-30% of the time. Even though Merrick isn't all about possession, we certainly appear to have more of it than recent years. Does his 2.06 sit with an average of 45% possession whereas Stubbins 2.48 is the same number per possession %?
    I would expect they wouldn't have a linear relationship. My read into it is that despite having less of the ball, we would have a MUCH higher percent of the game spent in "dangerous possession" where the opponent does not feel comfortable than previous years. Examples of this would be wingers/fullbacks in behind hitting the byline, counterattacks, breaks, possession in and around opponent's box etc. These are the times when opposition defenders are gonna make desperate tackles leading to fouls, and professional fouls etc to break up play.

    An opponent who isn't scared of you when you have the ball will rarely be forced into conceding yellow cards because they can comfortable wait to retrieve possession legally or wait for an error.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    Anyway you can take into account possession % with those card numbers? It's easier to understand opposition getting 0.7 cards per game if we only had the ball for 25-30% of the time. Even though Merrick isn't all about possession, we certainly appear to have more of it than recent years. Does his 2.06 sit with an average of 45% possession whereas Stubbins 2.48 is the same number per possession %?
    I only started keeping possession percentage data this year unfortunately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    I would expect they wouldn't have a linear relationship. My read into it is that despite having less of the ball, we would have a MUCH higher percent of the game spent in "dangerous possession" where the opponent does not feel comfortable than previous years. Examples of this would be wingers/fullbacks in behind hitting the byline, counterattacks, breaks, possession in and around opponent's box etc. These are the times when opposition defenders are gonna make desperate tackles leading to fouls, and professional fouls etc to break up play.

    An opponent who isn't scared of you when you have the ball will rarely be forced into conceding yellow cards because they can comfortable wait to retrieve possession legally or wait for an error.
    I have no doubt this is a big reason why.

    Other teams being behind getting frustrated/being more desperate in challenges would also not surprise as contributing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimario View Post
    Anyway you can take into account possession % with those card numbers? It's easier to understand opposition getting 0.7 cards per game if we only had the ball for 25-30% of the time. Even though Merrick isn't all about possession, we certainly appear to have more of it than recent years. Does his 2.06 sit with an average of 45% possession whereas Stubbins 2.48 is the same number per possession %?
    Your question intrigued me, and I found the possession data for all games back to 14/15 (Stubbins' season). Our average possession across the last 4 seasons is:

    14/15 (PS) - 46%
    15/16 (SM) - 46%
    16/17 (MJ) - 45%
    17/18 (EM - 46%
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    Great. He's gone from Liaoning Whowin to Newcastle Wholose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeterpool View Post
    Your question intrigued me, and I found the possession data for all games back to 14/15 (Stubbins' season). Our average possession across the last 4 seasons is:

    14/15 (PS) - 46%
    15/16 (SM) - 46%
    16/17 (MJ) - 45%
    17/18 (EM - 46%
    That's some lovely consistency and goes to show that effective possession that Merrick has is far, far better.

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