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    17/18 HAL Round 18 | Melbourne City v Newcastle Jets | Thu 25th Jan 2018 7.50pm

    A-League 2017/18 Round 17 Melbourne City v Newcastle Jets

    FIXTURE FACTS
    Overall – 22 matches between the two teams.
    Jets Wins - 9, City Wins - 10, Drawn - 3

    In Newcastle – 12 matches.
    Jets Wins - 7, City Wins - 4, Drawn - 1
    In Melbourne - 10 matches
    Jets Wins - 2, City Wins - 6, Drawn - 2

    Average Home A-League Crowd – 9378
    Average Away A-League Crowd - 7197

    Goals in Fixture
    Jets – 32, City - 43
    In Melbourne -
    Jets – 12, City - 24

    1st Goals in Fixture
    Jets – 11, City - 11

    Cards in Fixture
    Jets - 62 (61 yellow, 1 red), City 38 (36 yellow, 2 red)

    Recent Form (A-League)
    Jets - LDWWL (7 point from last 15)
    City - LWWDW (10 points from last 15)

    Leading Scorers
    Jets - Andrew Nabbout (8)
    City – Ross McCormack (14)

    Last Result -
    Newcastle Jets 1 (Nabbout 32') - Melbourne City 2 (McCormack 40' pen, Muscat 86') at McDonald Jones Stadium, A-League, Round 9, Season 2017/18

    Starting line-ups from Last Meeting in Season 2017/18 Round 9
    Newcastle Jets Melbourne City
    Glen Moss Dean Bouzanis
    John Koutroumbis Manny Muscat
    Nigel Boogaard Iacopo La Rocca
    Nikolai Topor-Stanley Bart Schenkeveld
    Ivan Vujica Scott Jamieson
    Steven Ugarkovic Michael Jakobsen
    Ben Kantarovski Luke Brattan
    Dimitri Petratos Stefan Mauk
    Jason Hoffman Nick Fitzgerald
    Joe Champness Macin Budzinski
    Andrew Nabbout Ross McCormack

    FIXTURE RECORDS

    Biggest Win
    Jets 3 (Goodwin 56’, Zadkovich 52’, R Griffith 87’ pen) – City 0, Round 19, Season 2011/12 at Hunter Stadium, 11/02/2012.

    Heaviest Defeat
    Jets 0 – City 4 (Jaliens 18', Novillo 47', Williams 63', Ramsay 87') at AAMI Park, A-League, Round 21, 14/03/2015, Jets 0 - City 4 (Mooy 43', Fornaroli 56', Mooy 59', Fornaroli 62') at Hunter Stadium, A-League, Round 10, 13/12/15 and Jets 0 - City 4 (Cahill 12', Fitzgerald 65', Fornaroli 75' pen, Fornaroli 81') at AAMI Park, A-League, Round 23 18/3/2017.

    Leading Scorers in fixture –

    Jets - Ryan Griffiths (6)
    City - Bruno Fornaroli (8)


    2017/18 SEASON STATISTICS
    Number Name Appearances Starts Subbed On Subbed off Minutes Played Goals Assists Yellow Cards Red Cards
    1 Jack Duncan 8 8 0 0 720 0 0 0 0
    3 Jason Hoffman 14 12 2 6 1049 3 1 2 0
    4 Nigel Boogaard 16 16 0 0 1440 0 0 2 0
    5 Ben Kantarovski 14 13 1 4 1139 3 0 3 0
    6 Steven Ugarkovic 17 17 0 3 1516 1 2 1 0
    7 Dimitri Petratos 17 17 0 4 1517 7 5 2 0
    8 Ronald Vargas 3 3 0 3 197 0 1 0 0
    9 Roy O'Donovan 7 6 1 0 571 7 2 3 0
    10 Wayne Brown 14 8 6 6 716 0 0 3 0
    11 Patricio Rodriguez 3 1 2 1 151 1 0 0 0
    12 Mario Shabow 7 0 7 0 90 0 0 1 0
    13 Ivan Vujica 16 16 0 1 1431 0 2 5 0
    14 Riley McGree 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    15 Andrew Nabbout 17 17 0 6 1474 8 6 3 0
    16 Nick Cowburn 5 0 5 0 104 0 0 0 0
    17 Daniel Georgievski 10 10 0 4 732 1 2 4 0
    18 John Koutroumbis 10 5 5 2 463 2 0 2 0
    19 Kosta Petratos 4 0 4 0 27 0 0 0 0
    20 Glen Moss 9 9 0 0 810 0 0 0 0
    22 Lachlan Jackson 5 1 4 0 139 0 0 0 0
    23 Devante Clut 5 1 4 1 59 0 0 0 0
    24 Joe Champness 16 10 6 8 935 3 1 1 0
    32 Angus Thurgate 2 0 2 0 20 0 0 0 0
    44 Nikolai Topor-Stanley 17 17 0 0 1530 0 0 1 0


    COACHING
    Coaches Head to Head – 1 matches
    Ernie Merrick - 0 wins, Warren Joyce - 1 win, 0 drawn

    Newcastle Jets A-League Coaching Records –
    • Ernie Merrick - 1 matches (0 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 0% win ratio)
    • Mark Jones - 3 matches (1 win, 0 drawn, 2 losses = 33% win ratio)
    • Scott Miller - 3 matches (2 wins, 0 drawn, 1 loss = 67% win ratio)
    • Phil Stubbins - 3 matches (0 wins, 1 draw, 2 losses = 0% win ratio)
    • Gary Van Egmond – 7 matches (3 wins, 1 drawn and 3 losses = 43% win ratio)
    • Richard Money - No matches
    • Branko Culina – 3 matches (1 win, 1 drawn, 1 loss = 33% win ratio)
    • Nick Theodorakopoulos - No matches
    • Craig Deans - 1 Match (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 losses = 100% win ratio)
    • Clayton Zane – 1 match (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 losses = 100% win ratio)


    Melbourne City Coach Record – Warren Joyce 100% win ratio (1 win, 0 drawn, 0 losses)



    TALKING POINTS:

    General
    • This fixture has produced, on average, over 3 goals per game.
    • The Jets haven't scored the first goal away to City in the last 4 matches.
    • The Jets will play their first away match since they took on Sydney FC in round 14.
    • The score in 4 of the last 5 of the fixtures between these teams has been 2-1, each team winning twice.
    • This game has been settled by 1 goal on 8 occasions.
    • Newcastle have lost their last 4 matches at AAMI Park. Our last win was a 3-2 win over City under Scott Miller in October 2015.

    Players
    • Milos Trifunovic and Andrew Nabbout, with 4 each, have scored the last 8 Jets goals against City.
    • Andrew Nabbout is now outright 5th on the Jets scoring charts, with 16 goals.
    • Riley McGree could be the Jets 161st player to appear in the A-League.
    • Daniel Georgievski is 1 yellow card from an automatic 1 week suspension.

    Newcastle Jets
    • The Jets only other game on a Thursday nightt his year was a 4-1 win over Victory at home.
    • Newcastle have scored in 17 consecutive A-League games.
    • Newcastle's Thursday night record is 3 wins, 1 draw, 3 losses.
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    Havent lost two in a row all season, Thursday is a must win for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET View Post
    Havent lost two in a row all season, Thursday is a must win for me
    Big test to see how the team respond.

    We've been flat, rode our luck against the Mariners and Roar before getting punished for it against City.

    I expect there will be a change or 2, maybe 3.
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    It's also been 25 away games since we kept a clean sheet. The last being against the Mariners in Gosford when we broke our streak down there 1-0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeterpool View Post
    Big test to see how the team respond.

    We've been flat, rode our luck against the Mariners and Roar before getting punished for it against City.

    I expect there will be a change or 2, maybe 3.
    I expect Moss and Kanta to both come back into the starting lineup. Brown wasn't the problem against Wellington but Kanta did look good when he came on.
    I'm not sure what will happen in the front third, perhaps just a better (or better adhered to) game plan will fix things. But with Champness back it puts pressure on those guys as someone is gonna have to be on the bench.
    If McGree lights up training he could be a surprise packet somewhere - I admit I've never really seen the bloke so not sure if he's strictly a CM or could be an option at 10 or wing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    I expect Moss and Kanta to both come back into the starting lineup. Brown wasn't the problem against Wellington but Kanta did look good when he came on.
    I'm not sure what will happen in the front third, perhaps just a better (or better adhered to) game plan will fix things. But with Champness back it puts pressure on those guys as someone is gonna have to be on the bench.
    If McGree lights up training he could be a surprise packet somewhere - I admit I've never really seen the bloke so not sure if he's strictly a CM or could be an option at 10 or wing...
    Defo moss and kanta back in...think the gaffer needs to remind hoff that he is a right sided player and has defensive duties.

    Think dimi needs a spell...to many touches and getting caught with the ball.

    Vujica not as effective going forward currently as earlier in the season.

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    The slide into oblivion continues.

    Boogaard to give away at least 14 free kicks in shooting range McCormack to score from all of them.

    15-0
    Kamau with a deflected sealer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plague View Post
    The slide into oblivion continues.

    Boogaard to give away at least 14 free kicks in shooting range McCormack to score from all of them.

    15-0
    Kamau with a deflected sealer.
    You did get to see a Boogs red last week
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    Quote Originally Posted by redwah View Post
    Defo moss and kanta back in...think the gaffer needs to remind hoff that he is a right sided player and has defensive duties.

    Think dimi needs a spell...to many touches and getting caught with the ball.

    Vujica not as effective going forward currently as earlier in the season.
    Vujica is affected by Pato. Looked better once Champness got there.

    I'd also rest Hoff. Move patito out there and bring Champness back in considering the inclusions macca mister. I agree with them and the reasons.
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    I would also like to see Dimi have a break to recharge. Put Pato there a la Ronny and see how it goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetmaster View Post
    I would also like to see Dimi have a break to recharge.
    agree

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    Bart is out for city. Big loss for them. Prob sign John Terry as an injury replacement for one game.
    Can't see Dimi being rested. He'll stay at 10 with champs and Potato out wide. Nabs up front. Hoffo to bench. Kanta to start. Win and we look good for 2nd. Draw is almost as good. Lose and we start aiming for top 4.

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    Loss this one. we have been sliding backwards for a few games now. Unless Merrick gets Pato and Dimi to stop their team mate confusing wanderings we will again have little structure. Moss in, Kanta in Champness in. Duncan, Hoff and Brown to the bench. Sorry for Brown, he's been improving with game time but Kanta 2.0 is the better option (until hurt again)

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    We play our best football playing with width with crazy George and Vujica joining in on the party. So long as Ernie can get the troops to go back to this we can get a result i reckon.
    I do like your idea Jetmaster of throwing Pato into a creative role in the middle leaving Champers to hug the sideline and if i recall correctly in the lead up to Pato's signing and arrival Ernie mentioned that although Pato was predominantly a wide player he was not averse to giving him a run centrally. City are a bloody hard team to predict what you are going to get from them. Some weeks they play great football but other weeks it is like sitting through root canal therapy minus the local it can be that painful.
    A good test for the players and coach to make a statement that the Nix game was just a hiccup and not part of a trend. I still have not seen a better team than us this season at full throttle so sticking with a top 2 finish for mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetmaster View Post
    I would also like to see Dimi have a break to recharge. Put Pato there a la Ronny and see how it goes.
    **** giving him a break to recharge

    Drop him

    Give him a rocket up the arse etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    **** giving him a break to recharge

    Drop him

    Give him a rocket up the arse etc
    Based on his performances from the Sydney game onwards I'd put him on the bench
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    Nbn news last night indicated Duncan will start. I can only assume Moss is still injured.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    **** giving him a break to recharge

    Drop him

    Give him a rocket up the arse etc
    I just said the same thing, just the more diplomatic way that Ernie would use.

    Like those American cop films where the rogue gets told, "You're on vacation".

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    Wouldn't be opposed to Pato starting at 10 with Dimi to come off the bench when he tires out.
    Ernie's gonna have to come up with a better solution though especially when Ronny comes back into the fray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Wouldn't be opposed to Pato starting at 10 with Dimi to come off the bench when he tires out.
    Ernie's gonna have to come up with a better solution though especially when Ronny comes back into the fray.
    ERnie mentioned on the news last night that Phoenix exposed a few issues that hadn't been done before but fortunately they're easy enough to fix. If it's just "all talk" then I like what is being said.

    I'd be starting Champness and putting Hoff on the bench and play Champness - Dimi - Rodgod but it wouldn't surprise me to see the same as the other night or Champness - Dimi - Hoff

    Thing is, of the wingers Hoff appears the hardest worker in defence. Can we compensate that loss for attacking flair?

    FWIW Rodgod (credit to my brother for that name) was fouled 9 times in the previous match. Now, the data I managed to find on older games isn't 100% reliable but only Griff in a game v Perth season 3, Rd16 (10) and Coveny in CCM Semi final home leg season 1 (9) have received the same or more fouls in a match. My hunch - it's the most times a Jets player has been awarded a free-kick after being fouled in a single match.
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