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    Football on TV & TV rights thread V2.0

    AFL: $1.25 billion
    NRL: $1.03 billion (plus NZ and internet/phone rights) http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/l...821-24jdg.html
    A-League: ?

    next cab off the ranks is us. your time to shine Ben, make it a good'un.

    while the money is good for NRL, they really don't seem to have gotten much out of their deal other than it. certainly not when you compare it to what the AFL got (i.e. all games live, a whole channel)

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    It needs to cover the cap for A-League, NYL and W-League at any cost.

    Anything else is a bonus.

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    needs to be $35mil per year for HAL, not including Socceroos.
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    And what is it at the moment?

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    $17mill/year including socceroos.

    Have to double that and take away the highest rating part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by furns View Post
    needs to be $35mil per year for HAL, not including Socceroos.
    Will that cover the salary cap if the rumours of a 20% commission for World Sport Group is accurate.

    Also makes the $40m deal a few years ago seem like a wasted opportunity

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    Quote Originally Posted by belchardo View Post
    while the money is good for NRL, they really don't seem to have gotten much out of their deal other than it. certainly not when you compare it to what the AFL got (i.e. all games live, a whole channel)
    Looks like they got their money but not much else.

    No extra live games on FTA
    Delayed broadcasts for 2/3 of FTA games
    No Fox Rugby league channel like the AFL got
    no simulcasts in HD on fox of FTA games
    looks like their may be no Telstra internet rights, wonder if the optus now case has scared them off.

    But I guess that's the compromises they had to accept to get the money they wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pico View Post
    Looks like they got their money but not much else.
    No extra live games on FTA
    No Fox Rugby league channel like the AFL got
    no simulcasts in HD on fox of FTA games.
    Thank god for that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pico View Post
    No extra live games on FTA
    Delayed broadcasts for 2/3 of FTA games
    No Fox Rugby league channel like the AFL got
    no simulcasts in HD on fox of FTA games
    looks like their may be no Telstra internet rights, wonder if the optus now case has scared them off.
    teehee ,one live free to air per.

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    I hope FTA game/s included for a league deal

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    Buckley is gone after this deal is signed!
    Merry Griffmas!

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    Quote Originally Posted by moses View Post
    teehee ,one live free to air per.
    in standard def, with ads and Phil Gould.

    enjoy.

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    David Gallop could take the reins of FFA with a $40 million-a-year broadcast deal in place

    Tom Smithies
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    August 22, 2012



    DAVID Gallop will take over soccer underpinned by a broadcast deal worth close to $40 million a year if Ben Buckley's valedictory negotiations are successful in the next two months.

    Buckley will exit Football Federation Australia in two months once the broadcast deal is complete, after six years at the helm of the game, and it's understood the FFA board is comfortable that a deal of that amount will be signed off, for at least four years.

    Gallop will then take over as FFA CEO later in the year, having acceded to Frank Lowy's entreaties six years after he was first approached to run soccer.

    Buckley's departure had been presumed for months once the TV deal was complete, and yesterday Lowy was confident enough to state a broadcast package for the A-League and Socceroos would be concluded in "about two months".

    The Daily Telegraph understands that Fox Sports and SBS remain the most likely broadcast partners, notwithstanding Channel Ten's defeat in the NRL broadcast talks.

    Getting close to $40 million per year would allow FFA to cover the salary cap of $2.6 million and also more of the game's central expenditure, though the players' union has already signalled that it will seek a greater share of an increased pot.

    It would also give Buckley a legacy as answer to his critics in the game who have accumulated through the World Cup bid, the collapse of two A-League teams and the saga of Western Sydney.

    Bizarrely none of the trio, Buckley, Lowy or Gallop, was available for comment yesterday, the news announced simply via a press release on the same day the NRL announced its $1 billion TV deal.

    Gallop is on his way back to London as acting chair of the Australian Sports Commission, for the Paralympics, having spent time with Lowy in England during the Olympics when the offer was made.

    But he succeeds a man who had become a lightening rod for dissent within the game, a fact acknowleged by senior FFA sources in talking of the need for fresh blood to drive the game forward.
    So we're going to get what we could of had 3 years ago & we're going to give 20% of it to WSG in the process, seems a little silly to me.

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    TV deal gives Buckley one last chance to sign off in style



    Saving face ... Ben Buckley must negotiate the best possible broadcast deal for Football Federation Australia before he is superseded by David Gallop. Photo: Getty Images

    Ben Buckley can help silence his critics if he gets football a game-saving new broadcast deal. How much is that? Let's say at least $40 million a year, and a free-to-air window. SBS are waiting in the wings, hoping to show a delayed broadcast of the next Socceroos game in Jordan on September 11 to mark their re-entry into the game. Fox Sports will again carry the burden.

    If, from between the two networks, Buckley can extract double the value of the existing contract - which still has a year to run - he will be able to walk out of Whitlam Square and face his many detractors head-on.

    Buckley cannot airbrush the many disappointments of his six years at the helm - the botched attempt at A-League expansion, the World Cup bid embarrassment, the clashes with billionaire club owners, the failure to expand the A-League's key metrics. He won't expect to. But a true assessment of his time in charge cannot be made until after the TV deal is completed. That could be next week, or next month, so we will not have to wait long to find out.

    A new five-year deal (to 2018) worth a minimum of $200 million would not only leave the game in reasonable shape, but would leave Buckley with a fighting chance to find commensurate new employment. He will not need reminding he is playing the 90th minute of a game for very high stakes. Maybe the biggest game of his professional life.
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    So what about the new man, David Gallop? He is not becoming the second highest-paid administrator in Australian sport like Buckley was (an estimated $1.4 million a year). The purse strings at Whitlam Square are a lot tighter these days, and while Gallop will get a pay rise from his NRL contract of $750,000, he will still be taking a pay cut in comparison to Buckley over the term of his new deal, which runs until 2018.

    There is some irony in the fact the man Frank Lowy wanted before he got Buckley will now replace him, six years on. The dynamic has changed, circumstances have changed, but one thing has not. Like Buckley, Gallop is not a football man. That is the major reservation about his appointment. Lowy has now employed three chief executives (including John O'Neill) since taking over in 2004 - don't think this is a board decision - and still he refuses to appoint from within. There are worthy candidates from inside the game, but Lowy is not looking. That is disappointing.

    Gallop has, by most measures, been a success story at the NRL. But as big as the NRL is in the local context, it is not football. Gallop, in essence, ran a 16-team domestic competition. Football Federation Australia has responsibility for seven national teams, the A-League, and the W-League. It deals with the world's biggest sporting organisation, FIFA, and has to cross religious, cultural and linguistic divides. The parameters of Gallop's new job are infinitely bigger than his old one, and he is going to have to make a good fist of it with a fraction of the resources. It is a tough gig.

    Supposedly, one of the reasons Gallop knocked Lowy back last time was the travel involved. He is going to have to get used to getting on planes. Supposedly, another reason he declined the offer was because he did not know whether, under Lowy, he could be his own man. On that score, nothing has changed.

    This time around, confidants such as Harold Mitchell, John Hartigan, Ian Frykberg and David Gyngell were all telling Lowy he should get Gallop. A case of the right man in the right place at the right time. Let's hope so.

    http://www.smh.com.au/sport/a-league...#ixzz24Dcibgir
    So FFA want $60m a year for their TV rights wonder if that includes internet rights as well. Seems that sports biz insider piece by Mersiades was spot on as far as targets go.

    Which would mean, if her figures are correct, the HAL is now a $35m beast on its own, not too shabby.

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    Kickoff and Shootout shows were good.

    Bridgey reading 50 shades of Grey while Dom was juggling the ball
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    Football Federation Australia (FFA) has announced a new rights deal that will see one live A-League game broadcast on free-to-air television every Friday night.

    SBS secured the free-to-air rights for the A-League in a four year deal, commencing from the 2013-14 season.

    The $160 million deal - made up of $140 million in cash and $20 million in advertising - marks the first time Australia's premier domestic football competition will be broadcast on free-to-air TV since the A-League's inception.

    SBS will also show all A-League finals on a one-hour delay during that time, and will broadcast the rest of the Socceroos' 2014 World Cup qualifiers - also on delay - effective immediately.

    "The former sleeping giant of Australian sport is awake," new FFA CEO David Gallop told a media conference on Monday.

    "He's out of bed, he's in the street and now has some cash in his pockets."

    Fox Sports will continue to broadcast all A-League games live over the duration of the deal.

    FFA chairman Frank Lowy has hailed the deal, calling it one of the most valuable agreements in Australian football's history.

    "Today, the new broadcast arrangements will give FFA an unprecedented opportunity to implement its strategic plans for Australian football," he said in a statement.

    "There’s never been any doubt that the game has a bright future in this nation, but today the football family can take comfort from the huge vote of confidence from our broadcast partners.

    "Fox Sports, Foxtel and SBS are broadcasters who know football and care about the game. They will all be important partners in the exciting growth in the years ahead."

    Despite the increase in money, Lowy says the A-League's salary cap will not be raised.
    'Exciting news'

    Fox Sports chief executive Patrick Delany said the pay TV broadcaster was happy to simulcast the Friday night game with SBS as it would help grow the game.

    "Our vision, together with Foxtel and FFA, is for football to become part of Australia’s summer fabric, whether it’s going to watch an A-League game or kicking the ball around in a park or on the beach," he said.

    SBS managing director Michael Ebeid said it was fitting that the A-League and the Socceroos will have a free-to-air presence on Australian televisions.

    "This agreement is exciting news for football fans across the country and will give all Australians access to the A-League and the Socceroos," Ebeid said in a statement.

    "We are proud to be part of this new partnership which will help take the domestic game in Australia to the next level."
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-11-1...t-deal/4379596

    the giant metaphor looks like it's here to stay.

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    Football Federation Australia (FFA) has unveiled a new $160 million four-year broadcast deal for the code, double the previous agreement.

    On a day new FFA chief executive David Gallop declared was "very exciting" for the sport, he announced the new television rights deal would be shared between Foxtel, Fox Sports and SBS, with some A-League matches to be shown on free-to-air television for the first time on SBS.

    "The former sleeping giant of Australian sport is awake. He's out of bed, he's in the street and now has some cash in his pockets," Gallop said at a media conference.

    Beginning at the start of the 2013/2014 A-League season, SBS will show one live match every Friday in the deal that ends on July 1, 2017.

    The network will also broadcast all finals matches, including the grand final, on a one-hour delay and a weekly highlights show.

    FFA chairman Frank Lowy hailed the new deal.

    "The outlook for Australian football is increasingly positive," he said.

    Gallop said the $160 million consisted of $148 million cash and $12 million in advertising and marketing
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    The A-League salary cap will not be raised despite the increase in money coming into the game, Lowy said.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/ffa-anno...#ixzz2Cd5Ndrxq
    would prefer $148m in cash to $140m.

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    Good to see the cap will mostly be covered.

    Am a bit worried to see some players already trying to get their hands into the cookie jar. I understand its part and parcel, but we need clubs substainable. After we insure that clubs start making profits, rather than losing $$$ each year, then the players can get a bit more. Without the clubs, the players wouldn't be playing sports for a living, just like how without the fans, the clubs are nothing.

    Plus at $2,500,000 over 23 or so players, that's an average of $100,000 when they maybe work 4 hours a day during the week. Not such a bad deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas477 View Post
    Good to see the cap will mostly be covered.

    Am a bit worried to see some players already trying to get their hands into the cookie jar. I understand its part and parcel, but we need clubs substainable. After we insure that clubs start making profits, rather than losing $$$ each year, then the players can get a bit more. Without the clubs, the players wouldn't be playing sports for a living, just like how without the fans, the clubs are nothing.

    Plus at $2,500,000 over 23 or so players, that's an average of $100,000 when they maybe work 4 hours a day during the week. Not such a bad deal.
    For 6 months of the year.

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    I was quite surprised at the level of increase, that said looking at the quantity of hours braodcasting devoted to football on Fox it is clear they see the code as a key to their summer programming. And it isn't just the money, the additional programs are giving the A-League credibility also.

    I do like that SBS will involved, that said lets hope they don't waste those Friday nights be scheduling Wellington home games for those dates. I'm fortunate enough to have Fox I couldn't care, and Im sure Fox will get the pick of the major games so we won't be seeing Victory v Sydney on SBS but the extra channel will increase the viewer numbers I'm sure.

    The $12 million in free advertising, fantastic....... just don't waste it. People don't join memberships because they saw an ad on Fox at 11pm on a Tuesday night.... spend the money and challenge the other codes for juniors. Get our big names on the TV in Jan/Feb encouraging local club registration where it will have an effect. We have all seen the league ads with a player/s asking the 99% of the viewers who couldn't care about Souths to join soon...

    I am a bit torn about the salary cap.... do the top players need increases. For most of us the answer is probably not, the younger yet to establish themselves in the squads????? I'm not sure what the current min contract is but I doubt it would be easy to live on in Melb/Sydney if you didn't have family there.

    And the opportunities to earn additional income are very limited becasue of the salary cap conditions so they aren't just working 4 hours a day.... 6 months of the year.... that is their income in full basically and the younger, fringe players even more so. A senior player picking up a few hundred for a quick after dinner Q&A might not seem a world of difference to him.... to an 18yo players with 3 games under his belt on min contract might see that few hundred very differently.

    If your average is 100K then for every player earning 150K someone is only on 50K. So if a senior Jet (say a Griffiths and Im in no way sugesting this is correct) was on 250K.... then a Virgili, Goodwin and Neville would have to be on 50K or less. And don't forget, not all these young guys get a second contract. So what opportunities have they had to for go to earn that 50K (maybe even less).

    On the flip side we have multiple levels of players outside the cap so I can see Lowey's point that it should be sufficient. And we can all see places money is needed within FFA as long as it is not in increased Socceroos payments.... increase the friendlies, get additional training camps going for the younger players but if the A-League doesnt get a pay rise then not a cent should go up in rep payments either.

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