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    If Arzani is that good can someone explain to me why none of the Euro clubs have jumped in and signed him yet??

    What are they waiting for??

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    If Arzani is that good can someone explain to me why none of the Euro clubs have jumped in and signed him yet??

    What are they waiting for??
    He’s still considering which one to go with.
    He’s going through all the offers from teams in Europe.
    So far he’s had a look at Budgewoi, Central Coast and Gosford. Will be interesting to see what Wyong offer.

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    Apparently Arzani was slightly ahead of Mbappe for young player of the tournament but they awarded it to Mbappe because he was already there.

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    Arzani > Mbappe

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    I hope the kid gets a move to a good club, can work on further developing his skills and becomes the creative, threatening player we need to start progressing again as a nation.

    I'm not in for smashing him any more. I won't cheer him if he stays at City but he's got the potential to be a better option to those we've seen on the left.
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    All he does is run at defenders at pace. (He does do it well) but why cant we produce more kids with this ability hopefully seeing Azarni doing well leads to more discussion and stuff being done to make this a common thing
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    Because running at defenders is frowned upon by FFA curriculum being worshipped by coaches. Too scared to lose the ball we better pass it backwards to keep possession!

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    This is the same media that rated Kristian Sarkies a deadball specialist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET View Post
    All he does is run at defenders at pace.
    I've seen him try to be creative with his passing. I reckon growing this part of his game is why he needs to go overseas. His attributes and approach will be better appreciated and understood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeterpool View Post
    I've seen him try to be creative with his passing. I reckon growing this part of his game is why he needs to go overseas. His attributes and approach will be better appreciated and understood.
    I agree but we didnt see much of that in the Aleague. He would do well with the coaching at City and Chelsea's youth setup
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    every single one of the South Korean and Japanese players at the World Cup was way more dangerous on the ball that Arzani.

    Daniel Arzani should be the kind of player we leave out of World Cup squads because he only has one perceived strength.

    yet here we are telling everyone he is the new benchmark.

    we have no hope.
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    Still though, once he gets a good pre-season under his belt at Liverpool/Barca/Bayern, he should be sweet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET View Post
    All he does is run at defenders at pace. (He does do it well) but why cant we produce more kids with this ability hopefully seeing Azarni doing well leads to more discussion and stuff being done to make this a common thing
    Pretty much all on the mongs at FFA and there love affair with the dutch system and all things Han Berger. about 6 years ago i got to watch a few times in one season a team that cost parents > 1k for the season for there kids to be in only to see them getting there asses kicked to the tune of double figures by halftime most Saturday mornings.

    You could put your house on these kids playing it out from the back and conceding goals from wayward back passing all day long. In actual fact and i kid you not if these kids even looked like taking a risk and taking on a opponent or a dare i say long ball they would get hooked for a break on the bench for deviating from the mantra/curriculum . I also recall a season later watching a girls rep team from up the valley play a few times and same same. Play it out from the back lose count of the number of back passes and side passes and once again a cricket score would be put on them by half time. The busiest of players in both those sides were there respective keepers, Either dealing with back passes or picking the ball out of the net. Brings back memories of when Couscous was coaching and BK and Birraz were our busiest and ultimately player of the season recipients. It was often said the word " header " was not even in the several hundred page curriculum.

    Gallop and his fellow gooses have single handedly backed a curriculum that has ruined a generation of footballers by taking away any attacking flair/instinct a player had and curriculum'd it out of them. Its no wonder we can't score goals from open play to save ourselves with such a defensive possession safety first mentality right across the park.

    Sorry to rant but on this issue i am so with the Member. This dutch style is just so shite and frustrating. But don't despair the ones peddling this style as great are the also the ones who tell you winning the possession and completed passes stats is equally as important as winning the match FFS.
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    when did Arzani migrate to Australia?

    did he learn all this running at defenders nonsense before he even got here and learnt the ways of New Holland?

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    I'm not a coach, nor do I have any coaching qualifications. I'm just a fan.

    It might be naive but if I were educating kids I'd focus on being flexible, teaching them not just one but many formations, intelligence to solve issues out on the pitch.

    From the sound of things are we so rigid and unwavering in our approach that it's to the detriment of our players (read as students)?

    That's surely not the Dutch way - sounds more like we've been given a manual, we've read the first chapter and thought "yeah I get the gist of this" and gone out to start teaching, missing the point entirely. If not in the application, it's in the ability (or lack there of) of those who are training the coaches to convey the message?

    Am I off the mark?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 380 View Post
    about 6 years ago i got to watch a few times in one season a team that cost parents > 1k for the season for there kids to be in only to see them getting there asses kicked to the tune of double figures by halftime most Saturday mornings.
    just a quick question: was this team you watched part of a club, or an association (one of those 'select' teams) or a satellite program run by a 3rd party?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeterpool View Post
    I'm not a coach, nor do I have any coaching qualifications. I'm just a fan.

    It might be naive but if I were educating kids I'd focus on being flexible, teaching them not just one but many formations, intelligence to solve issues out on the pitch.

    From the sound of things are we so rigid and unwavering in our approach that it's to the detriment of our players (read as students)?

    That's surely not the Dutch way - sounds more like we've been given a manual, we've read the first chapter and thought "yeah I get the gist of this" and gone out to start teaching, missing the point entirely. If not in the application, it's in the ability (or lack there of) of those who are training the coaches to convey the message?

    Am I off the mark?
    well, again, all i can go off is whats happening now.
    and the way forward is way different to the horror stories of the past.
    again, we are prob 10-15 years away from knowing if it worked, but at least the basics of it seem to be sinking in.
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    What a deadset ****ing coward **** you are
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    Quote Originally Posted by plague View Post
    just a quick question: was this team you watched part of a club, or an association (one of those 'select' teams) or a satellite program run by a 3rd party?
    Both were associations teams. Seeing the boys team consistently get hidings was a bit hard to watch and not sure the parents liked forking out the big $$$$ just to see the boys not enjoy it so much and almost always on the wrong side of the scoreboard by hefty margins.

    At that age i would think it would be more important to see who has natural instinct for the game and can play the game as it unfolds in front them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 380 View Post
    Both were associations teams. Seeing the boys team consistently get hidings was a bit hard to watch and not sure the parents liked forking out the big $$$$ just to see the boys not enjoy it so much and almost always on the wrong side of the scoreboard by hefty margins.

    At that age i would think it would be more important to see who has natural instinct for the game and can play the game as it unfolds in front them.
    so one of those 'northern select' deals?

    cause if so then thats the exact type of situation the new platform is designed to eliminate (and seems to have so far). the responsibility is on the clubs, and the clubs get the direct benefit of producing good players.

    kids teams go straight from their club development squads to the Jets squads. the club squads then continue so the local clubs remain strong and any late bloomers can then be cherry picked by the jets later on.

    i know at least in our case cash has never been an issue, and its prob no surprise that the clubs taking it seriously have some unreal kids in their midst. again, its early doors, and the outside influences have yet to rear their heads, but with some strong leadership, esp from the Jets and the clubs. it looks like the best kids will get the best chance at succeeding.
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    What a deadset ****ing coward **** you are
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeterpool View Post
    I'm not a coach, nor do I have any coaching qualifications. I'm just a fan.

    It might be naive but if I were educating kids I'd focus on being flexible, teaching them not just one but many formations, intelligence to solve issues out on the pitch.

    From the sound of things are we so rigid and unwavering in our approach that it's to the detriment of our players (read as students)?

    That's surely not the Dutch way - sounds more like we've been given a manual, we've read the first chapter and thought "yeah I get the gist of this" and gone out to start teaching, missing the point entirely. If not in the application, it's in the ability (or lack there of) of those who are training the coaches to convey the message?

    Am I off the mark?
    The bit about the coaches reading the manual thinking they got this and completely missing the mark is pretty much bang on the money

    The Dutch system can be effective but the way our coaches have interpreted it is so one dimensional

    They have taken the 4-3-3 part the possession retaining aspect the move the ball side to side part

    And forgotten the rest of it

    Forward runs breaking the line
    Running off the ball
    Dribbling
    One twos to break the lines
    Playing forward passes to teammates not unmarked
    Longer passes that actually find a teammate and not hopeful hoof up the park to break lines
    Tempo of ball movement in the final 3rd
    Etc

    These are things good Dutch sides do


    But no

    It side to side passing waiting for a gap to open
    Passing back and forth between the Back 4 keeper and 6-8 as they afraid to play forward as it all abput possession
    Failing to take risks to attack as it opens up the opportunity to cough up the ball / Possession at all costs philosophy
    Rigid formations with players sticking to certain parts of the pitch like it netball



    You want to see how ****ed we are at it.

    Watch people taking throw ins

    Now if your taking a throw in you watch how often as Aussie player looks to throw it forwards...

    Most of the time they do not even look that way at all But they turn and throw it tpowards their goal.

    So they go back.

    Because Possession is drummed into them so much they play like cowards and retreat first

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