Azzurri 3-0 over Buds tonight. Been a very tough year for Buds supporters!
Azzurri 3-0 over Buds tonight. Been a very tough year for Buds supporters!
If Jets go to Sydney than two leagues of 8, 21 rounds everyone play each other three times. With promotion and relegationOriginally Posted by Hunter403
As for Youth you can still have NPL1 and NPL2 but have the youth in one or two based on past performance. Possible to have Youth in NPL1 and seniors in NPL2 and vice versa. Promote and relegate the Youth based on a club championship between U16-U13. Those clubs that develop Youth and promote strong youth teams will see their youth in NPL1 while those that don't will have their youth in NPL2
As for Thornton, that Thornton want to play at Thornton Oval means they can't have such a shit field in the NPL, shouldn't even be in NewFM
It's more a shame for New Lambton, large club, strong teams across all grades, plenty of money.
What happened to New Lambton hitting the NPL? I was informed via public meetings they were pushing hard at the beginning of the year.
Apparently they didn't apply.
Puzzling. As mentioned strong right through to U23's. Huge player base.
Im sure Foley was building up to promotion. I think if they are waiting to build through the juniors they may leave first.
Last edited by Negative Police; 18-07-2019 at 09:55 AM.
If they decide to go to two 8 team comps it will be an absolute disaster. They want to generate interest but by the time they get to the third round there will be none, just like the a-league. If teams are eligible to play NPL make a 14 team comp then. More games = more development. The people who think 2x 8 team tiers is a good idea are delirious.
I understand your thoughts behind your ideas.
But, what about the dilution of the competition? The bottom couple of teams in the NPL now are struggling. I think the separation would be a lot worse between the top teams and the bottom. The better ran, and successful teams will always attract the majority of the best players.
Secondly, the top couple of clubs would lose a player or two because of a player chasing money, and that's fine, to each his own. But those top teams who have lost a quality player or two will struggle to compete with the other top NPL teams then. In only been last 5-8 years that Newcastle teams have competed very well with other top NPL teams. I don't think the competition as a whole would like to lose that reputation.
I'm happy for someone to poke holes in my thoughts. Just my 2 cents.
15 games 1st rnd, 7 games second then Semis. All teams still classed as NPL and end up where they deserve.
There will not be much change at all NNSWF have said they want a 10 team comp and would prefer 2 NPL divisions, but if they could only get 1 they would have NL1.
So if Jets go to Sydney only change will be Valentine out due to ground has changed since original acceptance. Cooks Hill promoted so NNSWF can have a good news story. If Jets stay Valentine gone and no one promoted.
No teams are going back to Zone football as this would wipe over 100k from NNSWF revenue.
So NL1 will have teams with a NPL Licence and without, if a team with a Licence wins the comp they will be promoted. If a Club wins the Minor Premiership without a Licence no promotion that year.
For NNSWF it’s a win.
10 team comp , Promotion / relegation and keep all the Money.
Clubs without a licence have until end of 2021 to apply for a Licence as Zone Clubs can apply then.
That'd be to confusing for the average joe to figure out.
I think this would be more acceptable.
As with most things in local football, the rumour and innuendo is short on fact. New Lambton FC did not apply because despite attempts to satisfy their due dilligence with NNSWF, they could not find common ground on what a new look NPL would look like. Nor any satisfaction that an NPL would look any different to what an NPL currently looks like in NNSWF which, (if we are honest), is a competition short on quality, depth, youth development, gender equality and suitable resources (Magic Park the best in Newcastle is testament to this). The 17 clubs who have applied fall into 2 buckets, the existing NPl clubs who are all but guaranteed, and the NL1 clubs who have applied thinking that they had to in order to stay in a second tier (or who genuinely think they can go up). The criteria is stretching for 10 teams, let alone 17. It is the preference of the NNSWF Board to see a 12 team NPL. Any less and the miniscule relevance that NNSWF has on the national stage now is diluted further. If The Jets go to Sydney (unlikely that they have the cash), two spaces open up. Cooks Hill and South Cardiff have the facilities albeit both will require work and probably $80k -$100k in capital to cover wages for players and staff. All other teams then fall into whatever a second tier looks like. NL1, Northern Second Division, NNSWF Conference League, whatever. It wont be branded a NPL 2 as there wont be enough teams compliant with an NPL licence to form a competition to justify Premier status. If Cooks Hill and Southy go it leaves Kahibah, West Wallsend, Wallsend, Belswans looking for opposition. NNSWF have confirmed, that any club can apply for an NPL licence from 2021 and any underlying second tier club would need to win a second tier AND meet all requirements for NPL, to gain promotion. If a compliant club does win a second tier, an NPL club will be relegated. NNSWF might put a cap that there needs to be at least 60% of second tier clubs who do qualify to enact this rule. It may take a few years. New Lambton sources that I know are smart dudes. They satisfied every part of NPL criteria except a ground but they have a very close association to both The Newcastle Council and State and Federal Members that sees them well placed once Council finish their audit on local sports ground usage in Spetember to pounce. They have formal development plans across 3 grounds pending, huge juniors and competitive Youth teams in all ages of NL1. Jim Foley will lead a Coaching review in 2020 and they are appointing a Football Operations team to drive Mens Youth and Womens programs to the next level. Their message is that they prefer to sit and watch to see what transpires around them. One official told me last night that with all the conjecture, New Lambton also see very little benefit in supporting an NPL that does not suitably cater for WPL representation as part of NPL licences. With New Lambton being one of the only clubs who feature a WPL program, their decisions are based on the interest of their entire club, not just the 200 odd male NL1 numbers. New Lambton will feature in a second tier in 2020, a second tier that will have Youth teams aligned to the NPL ages and most probably one that will feature Thornton, Toronto, Singleton and Cessnock. Maybe....unless those clubs see no benefit in an eventual NPL push which would see them seek Zone affiliations. Hopefully that clears the air. NPL 2020.......dont get too excited as it will be the same old same old....with a little lipstick applied to the same old pig. 2021 and beyond....? Who knows what will happen but tread cautiously is the advice of those South of The Gully Line.
A two tier comp is good in theory, no disrespect to the NL1 clubs who have applied, but do NNSW have the kahoonas to drop 2 or even 3 existing NPL clubs in 2020 to make this a reality? Imagine the mutiny by the clubs involved? We all know Mr Eland loves to consult on everything and won’t want to come out smelling of any impropriety - even after 3 years of talking about 2 tiers, they still cannot confirm the structure of 2020 competition. No way will he drop NPL teams to second tier in 2020.
Sensible option - promote Cookers, remove the bye (Jets going nowhere honestly), rest stay in NL1 another year and draw from a pool of complying clubs for promotion/relegation in 2021.
I just hope that the NL1 clubs who have applied haven’t spent ridiculous money getting ready for another year in second tier.
Format your text brother. This wall of text is more intimidating then the great wall of China was to Mongolians.
Genghis Khan breached the wall, decapitated the Imperial Guard and drank blood from their skulls. Anything is possible and this forum is devoid of fact. Apologies if it took too long to put the fires of bullshit that pervades local football out. I will hibernate for a while Immersion.
If Genghis Khan had of used paragraphs and headlines imagine what he would have been able to do lol.
A ground and all the other criteria associated with the ground, such as size of changerooms, ones for both men and women, media box, etc.
Well good luck with that, half the WPL teams aren't part of NPL/NL1 clubs, two of them are powerhouses and one is a former powerhouse. Those clubs aren't just going to want to have to give up their WPL teams after all the effort they have put into them over the years tp go to some NPL team simply for some bs about gender equality or some fanciful notion that an NPL club must also have a WPL club. You get top female teams not part of top teams elsewhere in the country.One official told me last night that with all the conjecture, New Lambton also see very little benefit in supporting an NPL that does not suitably cater for WPL representation as part of NPL licences.
That's before we get into how there isn't the depth for every club in the NPL currently let alone 16 clubs with NPL licenses to have a competitive and decent WPL squad.
One of the only sounds weird, half the competition are part of clubs in NL1.With New Lambton being one of the only clubs who feature a WPL program
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How unrealistic NNSW’s plans are to roll “NPL” requirements deeper into the region will be seen when they try it on with the WPL - because that’s what will make the competition flourish.
A number of clubs won’t come close and will never have the ability or support from Council to develop their grounds - and in at 2 examples remove a cricket pitch.
This is why partnerships between WPL and NPL clubs will be important in the future. Maybe not handing over the reigns? But at very least ground sharing.
Not enough complying grounds, held by too few “men only” clubs and not enough money about to create more. The outcome of Councils ground review will be interesting in this respect.
The sooner some of these inner city clubs pool their resources and ground share the better off they'll be.
Whilst I agree with the sentiment. The logistics would be a nightmare. Darling St, Magic Park and Arthur Edden Oval are prime examples of this. With only one club utilising the grounds the youth teams are still required to train on other fields due to lack of availability.
These 3 clubs combined have more resources, fans, members and clout than Wanderers rugby ever had, and look what they managed to achieve all on thier own.
You pool resources, create one matchday venue then keep your existing facilities for training/youth without needing to each spend massive dollars on lights /seats/corporates etc in order to comply.
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