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    Quote Originally Posted by Aegon View Post
    Trials for 2020 squads should now all be completed. Have all the squads announced their selections?

    Have teams stayed loyal to their existing players or have their been wholesale changes?

    Jaffas 9's released 6 players, Olympic released 3 players & Magic have apparently retained the majority of their players.

    There is lots of rumours about discarding the 2 game (20min halves) per weekend format in favour of a single longer game (30min halves).

    With the Jets leaving the LMRFF it'll be interesting to see whether there are more SAP games played at Speers Point and maybe more oversight from NNSWF.

    When do all the teams start training? Late this year or early next year?

    4/10 from the HV 11ís girls team left 2 took up a spot with the Jets, 1 was a son of one of the departing coaches and my daughter has moved on to play for Macquarie Football..

    Her team starts trying on the 28th of October till early December then back into it Late January

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    apparently our club offered all current players their spot back and filled the rest with NET kids (they arent running NET next year).
    Squads have increased in line with NNSW direction of bigger field/more players on pitch and one game per week.
    no idea if there will be a distinct A and B team, but one team played really well last year and def want to stay together so cant see the point of breaking them all up.
    personally am happy as there are a bunch of good kids who maybe didnt have the best of seasons in games that have not been discarded due to results. the kids all have something to offer and the club should be applauded for sticking with them. hopefully its another year of growth and improvement for everyone.


    no official training due before at least christmas but they all want to get together pre-christmas for a hang so club will prob do something light.
    most of the parents were happy to give the kids a break for football for a bit and let them do other sports or do nothing at all.
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    Magic have trials for next seasons 10s and 11s SAP teams on Tuesday 15th of October at magic park.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaa Yaa View Post
    Magic have trials for next seasons 10s and 11s SAP teams on Tuesday 15th of October at magic park.
    I thought they had offered positions to existing players for the 10's?

    If any of the current players are dropped for new players at this late stage they'll struggle to find another club

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aegon View Post
    I thought they had offered positions to existing players for the 10's?

    If any of the current players are dropped for new players at this late stage they'll struggle to find another club
    i think it would be more to do with needing more players for bigger squads next season. most clubs are picking up at least 4 new kids (on top of any gaps they get from kids leaving).
    Without knowing them personally, from seeing a lot of their games this year id be shocked if the coaches were the type to kick good kids out. Their whole coaching group are fantastic imho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by plague View Post
    i think it would be more to do with needing more players for bigger squads next season. most clubs are picking up at least 4 new kids (on top of any gaps they get from kids leaving).
    Without knowing them personally, from seeing a lot of their games this year id be shocked if the coaches were the type to kick good kids out. Their whole coaching group are fantastic imho.
    Bigger squads makes sense for the 11's, however the 10's (last years 9's) both had 10 players if I remember correctly. From what I have been told from a Magic parent all the players had been offered to retain their position however they hadn't announced squads. So, unless players are leaving the club I wouldn't see how they have any spaces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aegon View Post
    Bigger squads makes sense for the 11's, however the 10's (last years 9's) both had 10 players if I remember correctly. From what I have been told from a Magic parent all the players had been offered to retain their position however they hadn't announced squads. So, unless players are leaving the club I wouldn't see how they have any spaces.
    They arenít cutting players from what I know but need to add to the 11s squad for next season.
    The current 9s have a few players that can play 9s again as they are only 8 and some kids have other commitments that might not allow them to play next season. Not sure exactly what but could be either moving or overseas holiday during football season so there are a few spots open in 10s for next season and more in the 11s.
    This years 9s only had 9 players in each squad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaa Yaa View Post
    They aren’t cutting players from what I know but need to add to the 11s squad for next season.
    The current 9s have a few players that can play 9s again as they are only 8 and some kids have other commitments that might not allow them to play next season. Not sure exactly what but could be either moving or overseas holiday during football season so there are a few spots open in 10s for next season and more in the 11s.
    This years 9s only had 9 players in each squad.
    Thanks for the clarification. Makes perfect sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aegon View Post
    Thanks for the clarification. Makes perfect sense
    No worries.
    The current 10s only had 8 players in 1 side and 9 in the other and need to fill a fair few spots as they are running 2 teams next season not 1 in the 11s SAP. Majority of the current 9s have been retained by the club Iím told. They arenít cutting anyone as they were a very good age group but some may not be able to play next season and some are only 8 as I said so they are giving kids a chance to have a trial for remaining spots.

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    Anyone know how much rego is around the clubs for SAP kids? Does it vary much from club to club or are they similar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaa Yaa View Post
    Anyone know how much rego is around the clubs for SAP kids? Does it vary much from club to club or are they similar?
    2019 fees for Jaffas were $780 fees + about $300 for uniforms

    However sponsorship and active voucher ended up reducing the fees by $200 I think.

    So roughly $900 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aegon View Post
    2019 fees for jaffas were $780 fees + about $300 for uniforms

    however sponsorship and active voucher ended up reducing the fees by $200 i think.

    So roughly $900 ?
    wtf !!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aegon View Post
    2019 fees for Jaffas were $780 fees + about $300 for uniforms

    However sponsorship and active voucher ended up reducing the fees by $200 I think.

    So roughly $900 ?
    So pretty similar to what we paid at magic. Think from memory Olympic was there abouts as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaa Yaa View Post
    No worries.
    The current 10s only had 8 players in 1 side and 9 in the other and need to fill a fair few spots as they are running 2 teams next season not 1 in the 11s SAP. Majority of the current 9s have been retained by the club Iím told. They arenít cutting anyone as they were a very good age group but some may not be able to play next season and some are only 8 as I said so they are giving kids a chance to have a trial for remaining spots.
    Will Magic have 9 or 10 players in each U10/11 team? And do they have set keepers?

    What about other clubs? Do Northern push clubs to get set keepers at these ages?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaa Yaa View Post
    So pretty similar to what we paid at magic. Think from memory Olympic was there abouts as well.
    Yep. Bit cheaper at some other clubs, but $1K + for the big boys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aegon View Post
    Trials for 2020 squads should now all be completed. Have all the squads announced their selections?

    Have teams stayed loyal to their existing players or have their been wholesale changes?

    Jaffas 9's released 6 players, Olympic released 3 players & Magic have apparently retained the majority of their players.

    There is lots of rumours about discarding the 2 game (20min halves) per weekend format in favour of a single longer game (30min halves).

    With the Jets leaving the LMRFF it'll be interesting to see whether there are more SAP games played at Speers Point and maybe more oversight from NNSWF.

    When do all the teams start training? Late this year or early next year?
    Rosebuds retained a few for U10 and got some new blood in I heard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YewYew View Post
    Will Magic have 9 or 10 players in each U10/11 team? And do they have set keepers?

    What about other clubs? Do Northern push clubs to get set keepers at these ages?
    What I know is that the next years 10s will have 9 players again and the 11s will most likely have 11 players as they have 9 starters donít they? 2 subs.
    I know our coach was looking for a keeper but if a good keeper wasnít found another field player would come in and just rotate like they did this year and hopefully gain one the following year if any came along when they go to 11 players or he would go and search for one. The boys coach was pretty open about his plans with us parents for next season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaa Yaa View Post
    I know our coach was looking for a keeper but if a good keeper wasnít found another field player would come in and just rotate like they did this year
    How did the kids/parents go with this?
    Because one of Plague Jnrs mates was in a team with no set keeper and there were plenty of parents not at all happy they were paying for their kid to be in goals.

    To be fair they were unaware of this before the season started and I've been told a keeper has been picked for their team next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plague;230***
    How did the kids/parents go with this?
    Because one of Plague Jnrs mates was in a team with no set keeper and there were plenty of parents not at all happy they were paying for their kid to be in goals.

    To be fair they were unaware of this before the season started and I've been told a keeper has been picked for their team next year.
    This is a tricky area I think. In my opinion, no kid should be asked (or nominated) to play in one position for the whole season. The kids are 8/9/10 years old and should be able to play every position to better understand the game. Even the most enthusiastic goalkeeper will ask to play outfield at some point, and why shouldnít they? Of course, all parents would love their kid to play in their preferred position, but SAP is about development and kids wonít develop if they arenít exposed to different facets of football.

    Once kids get to 13/14 they should probably look at specialising in one or two positions, but even then things can change radically in teenage years. David De Gea was a striker until 14 years old; Rio Ferdinand was a striker until he was 16; Wan Bissaka a winger until 18 etc.

    I get some kids trial as a goalkeeper and know what they are getting into. Iím just not sure clubs should be looking for specific goalkeepers at such a young age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by londonboy View Post
    This is a tricky area I think. In my opinion, no kid should be asked (or nominated) to play in one position for the whole season. The kids are 8/9/10 years old and should be able to play every position to better understand the game. Even the most enthusiastic goalkeeper will ask to play outfield at some point, and why shouldn’t they? Of course, all parents would love their kid to play in their preferred position, but SAP is about development and kids won’t develop if they aren’t exposed to different facets of football.

    Once kids get to 13/14 they should probably look at specialising in one or two positions, but even then things can change radically in teenage years. David De Gea was a striker until 14 years old; Rio Ferdinand was a striker until he was 16; Wan Bissaka a winger until 18 etc.

    I get some kids trial as a goalkeeper and know what they are getting into. I’m just not sure clubs should be looking for specific goalkeepers at such a young age.
    the whole way along we've had keepers who want to play the position and pretty sure all do some sort of outside goalie training.
    none of the outfield players want to be keeper and the keeper doesnt want to play outfield.
    the kids on the field get moved around a fair bit, and ive def noticed a few teams that do it to. totally agree with mixing it up.

    during club training the keepers all have to do the same outifeld drills as everyone. good footwork and basic control is essential for them anyway.
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    And I don't argue with FR. The bloke is a legend and deserves great praise for his contributions to football in the Hunter.
    He is also the second best poster on the entire Foz behind you
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    What a deadset ****ing coward **** you are
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