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    Ridenton poor, Agree Arroyo needs Wessi ( where is the injury replacement Laurie) better without Boogard, pick Bobby FFS, put JK at right back, push Millar forward and move Hoff to the left in place of misFitz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alton View Post
    Ridenton poor, Agree Arroyo needs Wessi ( where is the injury replacement Laurie) better without Boogard, pick Bobby FFS, put JK at right back, push Millar forward and move Hoff to the left in place of misFitz
    Why was Ridenton poor?
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    I think Ridenton has a great football brain but lacks the level of technical ability to pull off some of the things he tries. There were times last night where he had the ball, turned and you could clearly see him SEE the play unfolding and attempt a pass... which then went to Perth.

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    Watching the game again, not sure how anyone can say we played poorly. Disappointed with the result? Absolutely. But our movement especially up front & with Uga pushing through from our half was outstanding.

    It Farken peeves me no end when people just hang shit on players/coach/club because itís the in thing to do, rather than assessing each player without a preconceived idea on how theyíll play. Ridenton & JK had one of the hardest tasks in the league last night restricting Castro & CI, both put in a shift & did a solid job. 1 goal conceded from a goal mouth scramble against that forward line is a terrific result.

    Up front, every positive movement forward came through Fitz channel. Should of had a penalty. Links well with Dimi & Arroyo & gets behind the line as good as anyone. Finishing needs to improve but I also donít think any were gimmes.

    Great involvement from Arroyo, Uga was terrific, Moss pulled off a couple of tremendous saves also. Backline was solid.

    I enjoyed watching us play yesterday. I donít think weíre too far off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plague View Post
    i have some thoughts.

    1. Jackson played well. Better than Boogaard has been all season. Amazing what picking a player in his preferred position will do. please take note all the Johnny K haterz.

    2. Perth were poor. Jets were poor. Not much else to carry on about,

    3. Castro was out of the game by 30 mins. Thought Johnny K did as well as anyone on him. Yep he popped up for the goal. but in games past he has owned us, today didnt think he was anything special.

    4. The big man up front got through some work. Chased, ran, closed down, attacked. My goodness what a world we could live in seeing Wessi look after him. Made so may clever decisions on the ball, when to play through when t hold up. think hes a real clever player. he has no help at the moment.

    5. Ugabooga is still our best player and its not even close. Id rather a bloke fail trying something than fail by being nothing. Ugabooga plays forward, he attacks, he wants to get goals. it doesnt always come off, but no one else on that team even bothers to try.

    6. Dimi gets himself into space a lot i dont think his teammates know where he is though. might be something to look into at training.

    7. When you have a man advantage the opposition coach usually picks a player you are ok with leaving the ball with. there is nothing more embarrassing in football than being the bloke that the opposition coach doesnt worry about. tonight that was Miller and he proved Popovic right. bloke was the weakest link on that team. my goodness the last 15 mins from him were horrible.

    8. Active was good, crowd was poor. Gypo CEO needs to get to work.
    5 Your points on Sugar

    What he got now 3 goals in 5 years here so he ain't much use in front of goal

    My main issue is he constantly fails to do his job as a DM

    We conceeded so much possession and territory in that game down to our midfield not controlling the game
    The bloke is constantly exposed as not being anything without Kanta by his side

    This constantly keeps happening with this bloke yet people still want to sing his praises

    What exactly great did he do yesterday besides have our side playing on the counter getting put under defensive pressure from minute 1 and keeping our attackers running around chasing the opposition all day??

    If that is considered a good performance from him then got help us as it made his teammates jobs infinitely harder
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    So who plays striker now the one we found is not available next week?

    JK is a fine MF and serviceable CB....he is not a LB. I don't want to see the kid ruined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetmaster View Post
    So who plays striker now the one we found is not available next week?

    JK is a fine MF and serviceable CB....he is not a LB. I don't want to see the kid ruined.
    He shut down one of the most talented players in the league. He's definitely not getting ruined right now, hes getting valuable game time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    What exactly great did he do yesterday besides have our side playing on the counter getting put under defensive pressure from minute 1 and keeping our attackers running around chasing the opposition all day??

    If that is considered a good performance from him then got help us as it made his teammates jobs infinitely harder

    ill happily answer your question as long as you pay me the courtesy of re-reading my post first.

    Because clearly you dont understand what i wrote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frodo View Post
    Why was Ridenton poor?

    It took him all of the first 30 seconds of the game to perform his first turnover among many. He is as weak as water on the ball and couldn't tackle my 14 year old niece. He is poor every game and the only he is a professional footballer is because Ernie has a soft spot for him.

    I doubt any other club in the league would take him if we offered him up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frodo View Post
    He shut down one of the most talented players in the league. He's definitely not getting ruined right now, hes getting valuable game time.
    I can see him being another Nick Cowburn. And that is the second time this season he has been caught out by a diagonal over his head to someone tracking behind. This led to the scramble and goal.

    He did same against Roar last season and if he is staying there is a fault that needs to be fixed. True his overall game was better yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plague View Post
    ill happily answer your question as long as you pay me the courtesy of re-reading my post first.

    Because clearly you dont understand what i wrote.
    I have read your post

    My question still remains
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetmaster View Post
    I can see him being another Nick Cowburn. And that is the second time this season he has been caught out by a diagonal over his head to someone tracking behind. This led to the scramble and goal.

    He did same against Roar last season and if he is staying there is a fault that needs to be fixed. True his overall game was better yesterday.
    That is also a reflection on the poor coaching is Oz

    They treat Fullback as an after thought and just dump any guy in there

    GVE done it with Matt Thompson and Dappuzzo

    Arnie does it with Blue Aids and now Socceroos picking Zullo and Rhyan Grant etc

    We have had Hoffman Lachlan Jackson Cowburn Brillante Pepper etc play there over the years also

    It is a specialist role and influences your attack and defence

    Look at how much the Scousers get out of Robertson and Alexander Arnold in both attack and defence in their success of late
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    Quote Originally Posted by 380 View Post
    It took him all of the first 30 seconds of the game to perform his first turnover among many. He is as weak as water on the ball and couldn't tackle my 14 year old niece. He is poor every game and the only he is a professional footballer is because Ernie has a soft spot for him.

    I doubt any other club in the league would take him if we offered him up.
    Don't agree with most of this. His tackling is better than most, his engine is superb, he reads the game well enough also.


    His weaknesses IMO are that he can't move the ball quickly enough (hence why he gets caught on the ball) and he lacks composure.

    We play without a defined DM role, those two just move independently to close up spaces. It works sometimes, and other times a team will wait for us to move and then take the space we've left. But we don't have a fit Kanta to sit in front of the back 4 and defend for 90 mins so Ernie is just hoping we can create turnovers further up the pitch and get that ball forward quickly. Look at us once we get pegged back and have to defend in a low block. Everyone runs around aimlessly chasing the ball. That's not Ridentons fault. He's doing his job fine at the moment. He just looks poor sometimes cause he's beside one of the best in Uga and he gets caught with the ball which looks very very amateurish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frodo View Post
    Don't agree with most of this. His tackling is better than most, his engine is superb, he reads the game well enough also.


    His weaknesses IMO are that he can't move the ball quickly enough (hence why he gets caught on the ball) and he lacks composure.

    We play without a defined DM role, those two just move independently to close up spaces. It works sometimes, and other times a team will wait for us to move and then take the space we've left. But we don't have a fit Kanta to sit in front of the back 4 and defend for 90 mins so Ernie is just hoping we can create turnovers further up the pitch and get that ball forward quickly. Look at us once we get pegged back and have to defend in a low block. Everyone runs around aimlessly chasing the ball. That's not Ridentons fault. He's doing his job fine at the moment. He just looks poor sometimes cause he's beside one of the best in Uga and he gets caught with the ball which looks very very amateurish.
    So some questions on this issue

    How many times did he get caught on the ball
    How many times did he give away possession

    Where on the field also are these things happening

    Because I backing the numbers or significance is anywhere near as high or as large as the Ridenton fanboys are claiming
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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    I have read your post

    My question still remains
    ok cool, so seeing as though your question had nothing to do with my post ill let whoever it is addressed to answer it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by plague View Post
    ok cool, so seeing as though your question had nothing to do with my post ill let whoever it is addressed to answer it.
    But it is addressed to you

    You are claiming that Sugar is our best player

    I am disputing that

    His failings as a DM are one reason why we are poor

    He is not our best player and far from it
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    I actually think his failings as a left back, goal keeper, right winger and striker are why we are poor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    But it is addressed to you

    You are claiming that Sugar is our best player

    I am disputing that

    His failings as a DM are one reason why we are poor

    He is not our best player and far from it
    Ugar is the heart beat of the team
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    Quote Originally Posted by MFKS View Post
    But it is addressed to you

    You are claiming that Sugar is our best player

    I am disputing that

    His failings as a DM are one reason why we are poor

    He is not our best player and far from it
    You are mixing up the term "our best player" with "top quality player". Those two things are vastly different.


    But Uga is easily our best player right now. He's first name on the teamsheet each week. Also, he is a box to box mid, he's never been a DM. We don't play for control, we play for turnovers and scoring on transition. Ernie has always done it that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frodo View Post
    You are mixing up the term "our best player" with "top quality player". Those two things are vastly different.
    Thank you kind sir.


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