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    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscheese View Post
    Steady the ship? Right now it is two pieces of drift wood. They are missing three teams from the younger ranks.
    oh in junior football its atrocious. But last years 18s side couldn't string a pass together, coach spent all game berating the players and yelling some very elementary things that seemed straight outta the Scorps rather than the stags, outsiders could tell players hated it and nobody wanted to be there - it was cringe to watch from the sidelines. Clearly this years group is better, and whilst we can dump on clubs for getting things wrong (and we should re 13s-16s at stags) its also good to recognise clubs taking something in the right direction.

    They need to address the massive issue in their junior ranks and need to do it fast - however, this is at least a step in the right direction, in an age group where many clubs end up going backward a little bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessepinkman View Post
    They need to address the massive issue in their junior ranks and need to do it fast - however, this is at least a step in the right direction, in an age group where many clubs end up going backward a little bit.
    Where do all the best kids from that area go to play?Lakes/Edgeworth or is it just not a big football area?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sapdad View Post
    Where do all the best kids from that area go to play?Lakes/Edgeworth or is it just not a big football area?
    Well they don’t go to lakes

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    Quote Originally Posted by sapdad View Post
    Where do all the best kids from that area go to play?Lakes/Edgeworth or is it just not a big football area?
    Their Youth teams have been abysmal for a couple of years. They had a decent 16s from memory last year or before but missing teams and now a 1st grade propped up with a few mercenaries does not a Club make.

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    One of the “ mercenaries “ didn’t play in the 5-2 win, so it’s not them propping first grade up. Youth is not happening but it’s not through lack of trying

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBscone View Post
    Their Youth teams have been abysmal for a couple of years. They had a decent 16s from memory last year or before but missing teams and now a 1st grade propped up with a few mercenaries does not a Club make.
    Their 16’s would have gone very close to winning the grand final last year. Look out for their 18’s this year who are the same side with a few upgrades

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undertaker View Post
    Their 16’s would have gone very close to winning the grand final last year. Look out for their 18’s this year who are the same side with a few upgrades
    A good side yes but 10 points off an undefeated side (who had only played Stags once), is not very close to winning the grand final

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscheese View Post
    A good side yes but 10 points off an undefeated side (who had only played Stags once), is not very close to winning the grand final
    Toronto beat them 3-0 in pre season and had a slow start against them conceding 2 in 5 minutes and then dominated the rest of the game.

    Drew 1-1 with NL too? Finishing 3rd on the same points as second with the second best defence in the comp by not many either. Had Belswans and NL still to play. They still had every chance to make their case. I believe they went 7 games unbeaten and won 5 in a row?

    Don’t know how that’s not putting their best foot forward to go close to winning it if the season carried on?

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    Amen, Toronto's youth has been a shambles last few years. Struggle to attract players, however, with increased fee's and requirements from Northern makes it hard to attract players with such high costs to play in the 2nd div.

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    Belswans 2 Toronto Awaba 0
    Great game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undertaker View Post
    Had Belswans and NL still to play.
    My point exactly after losing to these two they would've been further away from the top of the ladder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscheese View Post
    My point exactly after losing to these two they would've been further away from the top of the ladder
    New Lambton failed to beat them in the first round so to say they would have been beaten in both games is a silly claim to make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undertaker View Post
    New Lambton failed to beat them in the first round so to say they would have been beaten in both games is a silly claim to make.
    Umm, New Lambton beat them 12-0, they also lost to BelSwans 7-0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscheese View Post
    Umm, New Lambton beat them 12-0, they also lost to BelSwans 7-0
    I think you're mixing your grades up. New Lambton 18s beat Toronto 18s 12-0 in 2021 - their 16s were the side that did well after they picked up the Lakes NPL kids that got cut (not their own players).

    However, I don't think 16s results really have any relevance. It's a 2 age group jump. Undertakers' claims make sense for 2023..but not for 2022. I know both Belswans and New Lambton 18s had a LOT of bottom age kids last year who would still be eligible for 18s this year...means Toronto's 18s are a year below them...obviously, a good club is promoting kids to Reserve grade even if they are still age-eligible for 18s (better for their development - that's a whole 'nother debate as some clubs don't do this, they stack 18s instead) so some might not be there, but you would assume both Belswans and NL would be very strong in 18s again considering their teams last year were mostly 16-year-olds turning 17 who would be returning.

    The biggest problem with stags 18s last year was what could be heard from the stands as a spectator. No kid wants to be spoken to that way, especially when it's not making any sense from a football point of view either. I mean some kids respond well to coaching sprays... but usually only when they have some sort of football weight/knowledge behind them. Embarrassing. The new good players are mostly those that were cut from Lakes after that debacle, so it's not as if development has been fixed. Hopefully they're focusing on knowledgable coaches who foster player development for this crop they've been handed. If not, it'l just be the same problem again.

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    Any truth to the rumour Stafford and McGuire had a half time blow up and McGuire isnt returning

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscheese View Post
    Umm, New Lambton beat them 12-0, they also lost to BelSwans 7-0
    They lost 2-0 to Belswans and had a 1-1 draw with New Lambton but yeah sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undertaker View Post
    They lost 2-0 to Belswans and had a 1-1 draw with New Lambton but yeah sure
    Don’t worry about Cheesy. He’s got halitosis of the fingers. Everything he types stinks of shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undertaker View Post
    They lost 2-0 to Belswans and had a 1-1 draw with New Lambton but yeah sure
    I've been talking about the 18s

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hacker View Post
    Any truth to the rumour Stafford and McGuire had a half time blow up and McGuire isnt returning
    Very quiet so probably

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