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    Quote Originally Posted by Premy View Post
    It's not ZPL & ZL1 struggling for refs is it?
    It's ZL2 & ZL3 that struggle for refs. As I've said numerous times, Brad Carlin suggest every year if you play Friday or Sunday he will guarantee that you will get refs. However ZL2 & ZL3 clubs still insist that they play on Saturday and then they question why they don't receive refs. It's a simple fix, move games to Friday or Sunday or run the risk that you don't receive refs.
    Not just ZL2/3, all ZL1 matches last week had 2 officials for all 3 grades, 1 ZPL match had only 2 officials for all three games, and some other 3rd grades only had 2 as well.

    Problem is the numbers, and unfortunately, due to the abuse that refs have copped over the years, a lot of them have had enough, as well as being over worked by northern, but that’s another issue altogether.
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    IMO, best way to help remove abuse is to play a free kick from either where the ball is at the time of the abuse or where the abusive player is standing (whichever is more advantageous). If they go again it's the free and then a yellow. Or bring in 5mins on the sideline for abuse towards any official.

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    Some of the leagues in Sydney have straight yellow and 10 min on the sideline (no replacement player allowed) for dissent. Amazing how quickly the other players on a team get the others to shut up with the threat of playing a man down for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMFC Phoenix View Post
    IMO, best way to help remove abuse is to play a free kick from either where the ball is at the time of the abuse or where the abusive player is standing (whichever is more advantageous). If they go again it's the free and then a yellow. Or bring in 5mins on the sideline for abuse towards any official.
    The problem goes well beyond abuse. The abuse is the manifestation of a general culture of hatred of referees. One only has to trawl through the comments of any football related social media post before the uneducated vitriol directed at referees materialises, ranging from accusations of incompetence at best to flat out abuse and threats at worst. Obviously, social media comments aren't a fair cross-section of the football community but that culture certainly propagates to all the way from the lowest echelons of park football to the top and as with everything, the crowd as a whole is tarred by the behaviors of a few.

    Who wants to spend their weekends being universally hated no matter how well you perform your duties.

    Anyway thanks for coming to my TED Talk.

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    I agree with the sentiment that all refs should be treated better and respected. However that's not the quick fix we need right now, simple fact is that currently there are not enough refs to service the amount of games played on the Saturday. If more teams played on Friday or Sunday then this wouldn't be an issue, teams want to insist on playing on a Saturday so this is the issue we have to deal with.

    Club's complain every year that they don't receive refs yet they ignore the suggestion to solve the issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Premy View Post
    I agree with the sentiment that all refs should be treated better and respected. However that's not the quick fix we need right now, simple fact is that currently there are not enough refs to service the amount of games played on the Saturday. If more teams played on Friday or Sunday then this wouldn't be an issue, teams want to insist on playing on a Saturday so this is the issue we have to deal with.

    Club's complain every year that they don't receive refs yet they ignore the suggestion to solve the issue.

    I wholeheartedly agree.

    I was speaking more philosophically from my own experiences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMFC Phoenix View Post
    IMO, best way to help remove abuse is to play a free kick from either where the ball is at the time of the abuse or where the abusive player is standing (whichever is more advantageous). If they go again it's the free and then a yellow. Or bring in 5mins on the sideline for abuse towards any official.
    Pretty sure that happened in reserve grade vs Minmi.....

    At the moment dissent is a caution, and if the ball is in play, the fk occurs where the player was. However, the ref can allow advantage if it’s in a more advantageous spot.

    As for sin bins, it’s too hard to manage. As others have said, you already only have 2, maybe 3 refs, it’s hard to track sin bins as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas477 View Post
    Pretty sure that happened in reserve grade vs Minmi.....

    At the moment dissent is a caution, and if the ball is in play, the fk occurs where the player was. However, the ref can allow advantage if it’s in a more advantageous spot.

    As for sin bins, it’s too hard to manage. As others have said, you already only have 2, maybe 3 refs, it’s hard to track sin bins as well.
    Correct. It is in the rules but not enforced. They just need to make it black and white, encouraging refs to enforce it.

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    Norths vs Gardo
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    Minmi Vs Mayfield
    Ressies 8-1
    Firsts 1-0

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMFC Phoenix View Post
    IMO, best way to help remove abuse is to play a free kick from either where the ball is at the time of the abuse or where the abusive player is standing (whichever is more advantageous). If they go again it's the free and then a yellow. Or bring in 5mins on the sideline for abuse towards any official.
    Won a GF exactly from that rule. Player got tackled outside his box. berated the ref as the ball traveled down the other end. Ref stops game, yellow card. Brings free kick back 60 m to where abusive player was. FK hits keeper and drops, 10 players run through and belt ball in. full time whistle 10 seconds later. Wins 3-2
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    SMFC v North
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    Horrendous game in firsts. Wouldn't think both teams were top of the table. Don't think we could have played any worse if we tried, credit to North for keeping us in the game.

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    Spanked us in ressies today. Definitely title contenders

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    Norths v Minmi
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    Bolwarra v Norths
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    SMFC v Suburbs
    Reserves: 0-1
    Firsts: 3-0

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    Kahiba vs Minmi
    Reserves 1-2
    Firsts 3-0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wandering;247***
    Kahiba vs Minmi
    Reserves 1-2
    Firsts 3-0
    😲😲😲

    Minmi down on players in 1sts Iím assuming?

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    Greta V Mayfield
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred Devils View Post
    😲😲😲

    Minmi down on players in 1sts Iím assuming?
    All credit to Kahiba on this one, stuck to their game plan and we barely got a shot on target

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