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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Hi Aegon,

    It’s been tough on New Lambton. They lost their coaches, then their best players when Olympic and Magic came into the comp.

    The new coach is pretty inexperienced at WPL level but is doing their best with what they have.

    It’s the same old problem for New Lambton, do great work developing players but can’t compete with those NPL clubs when they decide they want to get involved in WPL as well.

    It will be a tough season for the Eagles.

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    Have to disagree, when the club was doing well on the field it boasted regularly how good the club was and how it was the number one club in newcastle etc etc, a few poor decisions from the club has left it where it is now but we don’t hear them boasting anymore, please don’t blame the NPL clubs for New Lambtons own undoing, all that boasting they should be more then capable to compete with them both financially on and off the field

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverRed View Post
    Have to disagree, when the club was doing well on the field it boasted regularly how good the club was and how it was the number one club in newcastle etc etc, a few poor decisions from the club has left it where it is now but we don’t hear them boasting anymore, please don’t blame the NPL clubs for New Lambtons own undoing, all that boasting they should be more then capable to compete with them both financially on and off the field
    Exactly. A lot of chest beating and not a lot do with npl clubs. I recall a few decent kids being overlooked at NL SAP and they found spots at NPL clubs. Some cliques were formed and teams chosen before trials. Many have fallen apart now. AT one point the youth were lead to believe they would be sharing Edden oval this year. Rumours hey.

    I do feel for Alan and the others that are still there doing their best to rebuild. With solid management it will come good again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverRed View Post
    Have to disagree, when the club was doing well on the field it boasted regularly how good the club was and how it was the number one club in newcastle etc etc, a few poor decisions from the club has left it where it is now but we donÂ’t hear them boasting anymore, please donÂ’t blame the NPL clubs for New Lambtons own undoing, all that boasting they should be more then capable to compete with them both financially on and off the field
    Yes Red a few poor decisions in 2019. A WPL program ran its own show, racked up $20k in debt, mostly to pay the players including 2 strikers who scored 70 odd goals (which is why they won the comp). When the NL1 part of the club bailed them out of $20k hole the Committee merged. The tap was turned off. Then the Coach left to follow his coaching pathway, a new Coach came in and their 2 most Senior players left because they could see the likelihood of no success with the 70 goals gone and they didn't like the Coach. When they left and headed to Olympic, the rest turned on the Coach and demanded a change. His results caused his unfortunate demise and when he left, the old Coach on the pathway found his way back to WPL and he started courting players from the Club that gave him a shot. The players who did the business on the Coach then abruptly left, and the Club started over vowing never to make the same mistakes in a division where adopted WPL teams "represent" their new NPL family. I don't see many Clubs as well run, the Sports Club will be a major reason behind their future success as they have numbers on the Board. They are the next in line for an NPL shot behind Cooks Hill to be fair and their Youth teams and all Senior grades are already showing in trials that they match average NPL clubs already. Not sure why you like to throw mud from afar at New Lambton, nor why you claim to have any idea about what goes on there. You obviously have an axe to grind but zero connection and zero involvement.

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    You must be on the inside of New Lambton. Seems like you have a good handle of what went on?

    Do you think it was the loss of 2 players to Sydney clubs - that combined scored nearly 70 goals in 2019?

    Was it that Olympic were happy to take the clubs co-captains just as the comp restarted from Covid?

    Or perhaps it was last seasons player mutiny (after the club gave them what they asked for) and exodus to Maitland to rejoin a Coach at Maitland that left the club in a serious financial hole in 2019?

    Or do you think that teams can just be rebuilt in an offseason?

    Winning competitions aren’t everything - money cannot buy longevity - Building a sustainable club is. Lesson learned. But with nnsw now about to tell clubs that they are unable to take a gate fee of $5 at wpl games for the first time - makes everyone’s job a little harder.

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    For the record Jim - Edden was never discussed for youth teams, only senior teams.

    This was on the back of council pulling the pin on New Lambton spending a further $300,000 on alder park, instead requiring NL to put that money into improvements of Edden - all part of their a strategic Sports plan - which has turned to be anything but strategic.

    As the relatively newest club into premier football (men and women) NL has been up against it for the last 5 years plus. At every turn, councils decisions and advice has been at best embarrassing and nothing more than hampering the growth of community sport.

    So “rumours”? No. Fortunate for Jaffa’s? Yes. But another example of the council backflips - one after another.

    This is not a boo hoo story - but just what the club has gone through. No different to any other over the years. Sometimes injecting some truth into the rumours chat isn’t a bad thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dawson View Post
    For the record Jim - Edden was never discussed for youth teams, only senior teams.

    This was on the back of council pulling the pin on New Lambton spending a further $300,000 on alder park, instead requiring NL to put that money into improvements of Edden - all part of their a strategic Sports plan - which has turned to be anything but strategic.

    As the relatively newest club into premier football (men and women) NL has been up against it for the last 5 years plus. At every turn, councils decisions and advice has been at best embarrassing and nothing more than hampering the growth of community sport.

    So “rumours”? No. Fortunate for Jaffa’s? Yes. But another example of the council backflips - one after another.

    This is not a boo hoo story - but just what the club has gone through. No different to any other over the years. Sometimes injecting some truth into the rumours chat isn’t a bad thing.
    Appreciate the insight and honest responses everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dawson View Post
    For the record Jim - Edden was never discussed for youth teams, only senior teams.

    This was on the back of council pulling the pin on New Lambton spending a further $300,000 on alder park, instead requiring NL to put that money into improvements of Edden - all part of their a strategic Sports plan - which has turned to be anything but strategic.

    As the relatively newest club into premier football (men and women) NL has been up against it for the last 5 years plus. At every turn, councils decisions and advice has been at best embarrassing and nothing more than hampering the growth of community sport.

    So “rumours”? No. Fortunate for Jaffa’s? Yes. But another example of the council backflips - one after another.

    This is not a boo hoo story - but just what the club has gone through. No different to any other over the years. Sometimes injecting some truth into the rumours chat isn’t a bad thing.
    FTR I also was told by 2 youth players that they were going to Edden. So the rumour that had filtered down at that time sounds like the kids were getting a little over excited. Fortunate for Jaffas? Not sure how.

    Agree that the council has hampered progress for the NL club quite often.

    Back to WPL. Surely NL can resurrect the WPL side.

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    Not throwing any mud at all, just being honest, it’s a club I bled for and had a hand in helping it survive in the 80s financially and never asked for a sent back, but if you want to survive and prosper you need to be honest with yourself, I wish the club all the best but let’s not sugarcoat things,

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    Fortunate in that they did not have to share Edden with another men’s club.

    NL will be more than fine. Whether it be this year or next season or those beyond. We remain absolutely committed to getting the girls back to the top of the ladder and developing our young eagles into the champions of the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dawson View Post
    This was on the back of council pulling the pin on New Lambton spending a further $300,000 on alder park, instead requiring NL to put that money into improvements of Edden - all part of their a strategic Sports plan - which has turned to be anything but strategic..
    Sorry is this $300,000 of New Lambton's money and not council money that council said had to be put into Edden?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscheese View Post
    Sorry is this $300,000 of New Lambton's money and not council money that council said had to be put into Edden?
    Alder Park.

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    Council don’t want New Lambton spending New Lambton money on Alder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Dawson View Post
    For the record Jim - Edden was never discussed for youth teams, only senior teams.

    This was on the back of council pulling the pin on New Lambton spending a further $300,000 on alder park, instead requiring NL to put that money into improvements of Edden - all part of their a strategic Sports plan - which has turned to be anything but strategic.

    As the relatively newest club into premier football (men and women) NL has been up against it for the last 5 years plus. At every turn, councils decisions and advice has been at best embarrassing and nothing more than hampering the growth of community sport.
    Hasnt councils position all along been that they want Edden to become a home to both Jaffas and NL and if thats the case the money will be spent?

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    Hasnt councils position all along been that they want Edden to become a home to both Jaffas and NL and if thats the case the money will be spent?
    Sharing grounds is the most untenable idea there is. Without even going into the dynamics of different clubs working together (which is 0% chance of success), there purely is not enough space/time in a week to share a field.
    If it's a match day venue only, possibly.
    But clubs struggle to find room for teams to train as it is. If the quality is to improve across all football (which is what we all want) the players need to be on the field more often, not in the corner of a field more often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spamg172 View Post
    If it's a match day venue only, possibly.
    Even as a match day venue it isn't viable. We can see that this year Olympic and both Adamstowns don't have all their teams playing all their home games at their home ground this year.

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    Here is the full list of match updates. i thought it's helpful for everyone

    https://www.skysports.com/womens-super-league-table

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    Renee Valentine's Herald team reviews and season forecast seem pretty accurate to me.
    Jen Hoy a massive loss for Warner's Bay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by late_to_the_game View Post
    Renee Valentine's Herald team reviews and season forecast seem pretty accurate to me.
    Jen Hoy a massive loss for Warner's Bay.
    She is Charlestown ranked too high. Mass exodus of players Keeper, Ellis & Rhali massive loses. Maybe should have stayed in Red and White?

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    Maitland V Magic
    13’s-17’s off
    Res-1st waiting confirmation but still on at this stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnno View Post
    She is Charlestown ranked too high. Mass exodus of players Keeper, Ellis & Rhali massive loses. Maybe should have stayed in Red and White?
    Those losses were happening regardless of the switch. I think 3rd is on the money, looking at the info on WB, Maitland and Atown. NL and Middies look like they are rebuilding.
    Magic will be very hard to beat.
    We will see ;-)

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