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    Newcastle Jets 2020-21 season

    This is not a great season so far.

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    Im enjoying it.
    Best bit is gonna be the inevitable gypo implosion.
    Cant wait.

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    Maki gone hopefully Kosta next

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    Quote Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET View Post
    Maki gone hopefully Kosta next
    Has Maki signed with anyone else ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dunster View Post
    Has Maki signed with anyone else ?
    No idea, Rumour I saw was that he told Deans to get ****ed few weeks back
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    Quote Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET View Post
    No idea, Rumour I saw was that he told Deans to get ****ed few weeks back
    Cheers.

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    No more Slander on Lawrie. He's the Only reason we still have a club

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    After Chinese millionaire Martin Lee 'lost interest' in the Newcastle Jets and refused to inject more funds, Lawrie McKinna loaned the club $365,000 to keep it afloat

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    GONE: Chinese businessman Martin Lee 'lost interest' in the Newcastle Jets, that he purchased for $5.5 million in 2016, amid mounting financial pressure on his other business interests.
    GONE: Chinese businessman Martin Lee 'lost interest' in the Newcastle Jets, that he purchased for $5.5 million in 2016, amid mounting financial pressure on his other business interests.

    FORMER Chinese billionaire and Newcastle Jets owner Martin Lee "lost interest" in the club and refused to transfer any money for more than a year as the COVID-19 pandemic provided the final nail in the coffin for the struggling A-League team.

    A liquidator's report filed with the Australian Securities and Investments Commission (ASIC) this week revealed that former director Lawrie McKinna injected $365,000 of his own money into the club in February last year in an effort to keep it afloat.
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    Mr McKinna, who resigned as director this year after the club was placed in the hands of liquidator Jeff Shute, of Shaw Gidley Insolvency Reconstruction, will not be repaid the loan.

    He joins more than 70 other unsecured creditors, including former coach Carl Robinson, his assistant Kenny Miller, current Newcastle Jets staff and a raft of Hunter businesses owed $12.63 million.

    Mr Lee is the major creditor, with $8.598 million outstanding, while the Australian Tax Office is owed $2 million.

    Mr Shute said he expected to recover just $288,899 that would be used to pay staff about 69 cents in the dollar for wages and superannuation, excluding assistance from the federal government's Fair Entitlements Guarantee (FEG), which picks up the tab for workers' entitlements when their employer collapses without enough money to cover them.

    According to Mr McKinna, problems outside the Jets' control, including tariffs between the USA and China and the pandemic, collided to seal the club's fate.

    But Mr Shute said a host of internal issues meant it was constantly in need of external funds to prop up its precarious financial position.

    "My investigations also revealed that the company had difficulty attracting sufficient sponsorship, membership and match-day sales to cover its expenses resulting in carried forward trading losses of at least $11 million as at the date of my appointment," he said.

    "These historical trading losses demonstrate an inability to meet the costs and expenses associated with running the company for the revenues available to the company."

    According to the report, Mr McKinna provided information to the liquidator as required about the club's demise, but Mr Lee did not and this would be reported to ASIC.

    Mr Lee, who bought the Jets in 2016 for $5.5 million, also folded his Chinese club Shenzen Ledman which played in China's third division, due to financial difficulties.

    Trade tariffs between the USA and China had a major impact on Mr Lee's fortunes in 2018-19 with his LED lighting company Ledman Group suffering a severe downturn.

    The Chinese LED lighting industry was slapped with a 25 per cent US tariff in an effort to reduce the trade imbalance between the USA and China. As a consequence, Mr Lee's LED lighting fortune was cut in half in only five months.

    According to Mr McKinna, this combined with the impact of the pandemic on Mr Lee's businesses and the A-League competition, as well as a "lack of confidence" in Football Australia (FA) after Fox Sports slashed its television funding commitment, meant Mr Lee "lost interest" and refused to inject funds from October, 2019.

    The club had $56,000 in the bank when it collapsed and held about $312,000 in Bartercard dollars that is not convertible to cash.

    Mr Shute has employed a lawyer to investigate the possibility of recovering $97,495 held in a Ticketmaster account used for membership and ticketing.

    It's understood the new entity in control of the Newcastle Jets has made a claim on the funds held by Ticketmaster.

    "In an attempt to avoid incurring additional costs associated with legal action for recovery of the Ticketmaster funds, I entered into negotiations with Ticketmaster and Newco [Newcastle Jets Football Club] to settle the claim on a commercial basis," Mr Shute said.

    "These negotiations have been unsuccessful to date and it is my intention to now commence formal legal recovery action for the funds."

    Mr Shute said the company was "entitled" to receive merchandise royalties and grants totalling $221,066 as part of its club participation agreement with FA for November and December last year, plus an additional $51,535 grant for the W-League.

    "FA advised that they are still in the process of determining the royalty amount but expect that it will be less than $2000," he said.

    "FA denied any obligation to pay the grants amounts to the company arguing that the company was in breach of the agreement by failing to maintain sufficient working capital and was unable to pay its debts from at least 1 July 2020."

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    Quote Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET View Post
    No more Slander on Lawrie. He's the Only reason we still have a club
    You mean the guy who was in charge of the company that ran up $12m in debt?
    The guy who dealt in Bartercard?
    The guy who the article implies was running a business while insolvent (a really serious issue)?


    Yeah, ok slick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.J. View Post
    But Mr Shute said a host of internal issues meant it was constantly in need of external funds to prop up its precarious financial position.

    "My investigations also revealed that the company had difficulty attracting sufficient sponsorship, membership and match-day sales to cover its expenses resulting in carried forward trading losses of at least $11 million as at the date of my appointment," he said.

    "These historical trading losses demonstrate an inability to meet the costs and expenses associated with running the company for the revenues available to the company."
    This is the most interesting piece for me. How is the current Entity running things in a way that overcomes these losses?

    We've had a few additional sponsors come on board, but membership is at best half what it was last year and surely 4000 people isn't enough to meet match day expenses.

    For me, we don't attract enough people to warrant the expense of MJ Stadium. We need to go somewhere else. And the income from membership needs to increase by either raising the price (which I predict would see FEWER members re-sign) or attracting more people. Moving to a smaller ground could help this. If we had, say, 10K capacity at a ground we could cap membership to 9000 and create demand for the product. Leaves space for walk ups, away fans etc.

    Anyway, unless things change I predict we will be here again in 3 years time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET View Post
    Maki gone hopefully Kosta next
    Hell yeah

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    Quote Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET View Post
    No more Slander on Lawrie. He's the Only reason we still have a club
    No.
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    Lawrie should have reported the situation with Lee not paying the bills to both the ffa and asic as soon as it became an issue.

    He then should have resigned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dunster View Post
    Lawrie should have reported the situation with Lee not paying the bills to both the ffa and asic as soon as it became an issue.

    He then should have resigned.
    Whose to say he didn't? And if he walked away I truly believe we wouldn't have a club right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by StannyCFCJET View Post
    Whose to say he didn't? And if he walked away I truly believe we wouldn't have a club right now
    Asic would have flagged the business if it was reported Stanny.

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    Threre has been talk today on twitter to move our home games to number 2 to save $$$$.. I don't think number 2 will fit FFA minimum requirements ....
    Dare to Zlatan

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    He won't make that mistake at Newcastle since our team is full of number 2's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lquiquer View Post
    Threre has been talk today on twitter to move our home games to number 2 to save $$$$.. I don't think number 2 will fit FFA minimum requirements ....
    Thats the main issue
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    Quote Originally Posted by lquiquer View Post
    Threre has been talk today on twitter to move our home games to number 2 to save $$$$.. I don't think number 2 will fit FFA minimum requirements ....
    If only we still had a ground in...say, Birmingham Gardens, that didn’t have a greyhound track...

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    He makes a lot of valid points
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    Lawrie Out

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    Any decent Yugoslavian talent we should keep an eye on?
    Thanks for supporting the Jets.

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