Stanton OUT

[anfield]

Having a look at LEAGUE points per match across all coaches we have had in the A-League

Stanton is sitting 9th out of 13, earning 0.97 points per match from his 32 in charge.

For comparison, Deans is 0.91 from 34. Miller was 1.11 from 27. Papas was 1.12 from 52. Jones was 0.81 from 27.

I was always a fan of Papas. Played decent football, I think we were building and improving under him even of it was only small steps. He decided to move on, I think the uncertainty of the club being the main reason and the lack of resources available. Currently he is looking for a job, I think he applied for Wanderers job before they gave it to AS.

I hope Stanton can turn this around , but I think the set-up of the squad is wrong. I'm all for bringing in Young players, giving them an opportunity , But he needs to start worrying about results. History shows alot of the rookie Jets coaches that have struggled to get another coaching job after bombing out at Newcastle. Miller, Jones and Phil stubbing to name a few.

This is a results based industry, Stanton had a free pass last year and probably will see this year out if the Jets are competitive. But 1 win in 5 games is hardly competitive. I wonder if the A League was a promotion/ relegation league then the squad would look a bit different. Maybe the Jets need to treat it like it was.

I kept hearing that the Jets wanted to follow the same path of Adelaide or the Mariners in how they have built their squad. But we haven't mirrored their squad set-up. Both Central Coast and Adelaide do have their fair share of good young players, but both have plenty of good experienced players around them. Both also utilise well the foreign player allocation. The jets are probably the worst club at foreign signings in A League history. Yes, we have had some good ones, but we have had plenty of poor ones and now we don't really sign anywhere near the maximum quota of 5.

I think we do have some really good young attacking players, But imagine if we had 2 more experienced players around them? A Central midfielder and an attacker. I keep asking myself if I can see that , why can't Stanton? I know the Jets want to be a selling club, but do they realise foreign players can possibly be sold for more especially to Asian clubs. We had Carl Jenkinson in the squad for the last 2 years, we should be using his contacts for players.

I will always support the Jets. I hope Stanton's way comes off, I really do. But results need to improve, otherwise support will drop off. The rusted on supporters will stay on, but the fickle supporters will move on.

[StannyCFCJET]

I was always a fan of Papas. Played decent football, .

You missed the part were he gutted our youth setup of its talented locals signed a bunch of less talented ones from Sydney and played a major role in both Goodwin and Mauragis leaving

[mic22]

imagine if we had 2 more experienced players around them? A Central midfielder and an attacker. I keep asking myself if I can see that , why can't Stanton?

Perhaps he can see it too, but doesn't have a budget to spend? My guess only.

Also, the Brazilian experiment is looking like a bit of a disaster so far.

[380]

Perhaps he can see it too, but doesn't have a budget to spend? My guess only.

Also, the Brazilian experiment is looking like a bit of a disaster so far.

Like the French one last season

[plague]

Yeah but the social media has been good.

[plague]

Legit though, every half decent a-league team over time had a quality centre mid that no one had heard of until they arrived

How the Jets can't scout a 6th tier Spaniard or 3rd tier Japanese player to fill the most important role astounds me.

Why keep going for wingers and forwards when it's shown that any plodder can get goals in this comp with some half decent service.

Have we had a good foreigner in the mids since Fabs?

[anfield]

You missed the part were he gutted our youth setup of its talented locals signed a bunch of less talented ones from Sydney and played a major role in both Goodwin and Mauragis leaving

There was alot of Criticism about the youth system and Papas. Im sure there are alot of people that are upset about that, Especially when it's personal to them. I understand that, Unfortunately that happens all across the world in football. But less talented players from Sydney, Grozos, Cancar and Natta are pretty decent players. I would find it hard to believe there were better players in the youth setup then them....


Goodwin and Mauragis both left a year after Papas went. A major role in the departures?

Papas did sign Penha and Beka, both pretty decent foreign signings. Sorry I missed mentioning that.

[StannyCFCJET]

There was alot of Criticism about the youth system and Papas. Im sure there are alot of people that are upset about that, Especially when it's personal to them. I understand that, Unfortunately that happens all across the world in football. But less talented players from Sydney, Grozos, Cancar and Natta are pretty decent players. I would find it hard to believe there were better players in the youth setup then them....


Goodwin and Mauragis both left a year after Papas went. A major role in the departures?

Papas did sign Penha and Beka, both pretty decent foreign signings. Sorry I missed mentioning that.

Those three wernt signed to be in the youth setup and if I remembering correctly and I may be wrong, Papas got the almost the whole youth setup and told them their rubbish and wont make it at the Jets. Apologies if wrong but thats main rumour I kept hearing

[anfield]

Those three wernt signed to be in the youth setup and if I remembering correctly and I may be wrong, Papas got the almost the whole youth setup and told them their rubbish and wont make it at the Jets. Apologies if wrong but thats main rumour I kept hearing

Papas was the youth coach back in 2011-12, a few of those boys went on to play A League. Has been on Ange P's coaching staff too, So I'm happy to back his judgement.

Maybe in that case his delivery was off the mark.

[380]

Papas would have to be one of the most overrated of Australian coaches in recent times. He has milked the " i worked for Ange " for everything its worth. Every time a A League head coach role came up his name would be right up there on the leading list of candidates and to this day i still don't get it.

Honestly what had he ever achieved to get that false hype. Better still if he got the rough end of the stick here whats he moved onto to demonstrate he is a much better Manager than what he showed here. I understand he has been overlooked for a few roles since being here.

This " i worked for Ange " only gets you so far and at some point you need to show something. Another Ange assistant found wanting.

[Jetmaster]

I don't know what people are expecting. The new ownership always indicated that the off field structure of the club itself was the priority before the squad this season.

I never expected any great talent to come in the off season. They obviously hoped the kids might do something surprising to get the fans behind them, which is difficult as they haven't been home for six weeks.

They might be forced to do something in the window if things don't improve though.

[My2BobsWorth]

As JP said in another post, we don't develop players, we destroy them

[StannyCFCJET]

We have some good talent. But they are getting no development and coaching. Prime example how backwards Natta and Bayliss have gone

[anfield]

Legit though, every half decent a-league team over time had a quality centre mid that no one had heard of until they arrived

How the Jets can't scout a 6th tier Spaniard or 3rd tier Japanese player to fill the most important role astounds me.

Why keep going for wingers and forwards when it's shown that any plodder can get goals in this comp with some half decent service.

Have we had a good foreigner in the mids since Fabs?

I have said for years we should be getting Players from the Primera Federation. It's the 3rd tier of Spanish football, 2 divisions of 20 teams. Lots of players that have played small amounts of LaLiga and Segunda division. Players that have come through academy's of Big clubs. Wages in this division could easily be paid by A League club. I would be signing a group of 3 Spanish players (23-28 in age). Got to do something different then what's been happening.

[The Postman]

I think that?s it for Stanton, that post match press conference was a little embarrassing.

Thanks for coming, papas in etc etc

[belchardo]

The boxing gloves and silver spoon bits were a little odd, but I can't really disagree with much else he said.

Still needs to be replaced.

[Jeterpool]

I think that?s it for Stanton, that post match press conference was a little embarrassing.

Thanks for coming, papas in etc etc

It was odd. Very much under pressure, I felt, watching his mannerisms. He's clearly frustrated by the squad that he's formed

[W8 WATCHER]

It was odd. Very much under pressure, I felt, watching his mannerisms. He's clearly frustrated by the squad that he's formed

stanton is a flog, and needs to be removed.
the refusal to have any association with local players is questionable, as he quotes "they are not up to standard"
then to support his, not up to standard... he starts and plays ingham each week, possible the worst player in the a league.

[The Postman]

stanton is a flog, and needs to be removed.
the refusal to have any association with local players is questionable, as he quotes "they are not up to standard"
then to support his, not up to standard... he starts and plays ingham each week, possible the worst player in the a league.

It also seems his ex-Sydney FC NPL youth players are not up to standard either.

[Alton]

It also seems his ex-Sydney FC NPL youth players are not up to standard either.

Problem is that no one will want the job