In my opinion, there are only 2 options that will work.
Either u18 remains with Youth set up as it is now.
Or
u18 decouples from Youth and is based on NPL and League 1 comps and is part of seniors again. This means Mid Coast and North Coast don't field teams in u18 which means they need to look for senior clubs in their region. Probably not a bad thing as it may allow for some focus on improvement in senior comps up north or teams from up north join NPL or League 1.
ground hog dayOriginally Posted by Reds Forever;27***8
Would this not mean that those clubs would need to come into the bottom ZL division & work their way up like Southern United are?
If U18 decouples from youth I can guarantee that NCF and MNC will not join the NPL or League 1. It will certainly improve the local senior competitions considerably, as the quality has dropped off significantly since the introduction of the U18s in the PYL. I know a lot of the local NCF clubs would be very happy if the decoupling occurs, as they hate the fact that the best U17/U18 talent is not playing senior club football locally.
Last edited by Izzy; 23-08-2024 at 12:33 PM.
18s yawn. Its a babysitters club. Time for ressies by 18. Theres plenty of grades to choose from.
The plan will still be keeping NCF and MNC within U18s, so they will still play with Hunter Valley based U18s teams to play 2 games one for the "senior" match day and one when the other youth teams are playing these clubs with NCF and MNC 18s to be part of the NPL18s competition. So there won't be any change at all for the local comps.
Just goes to show though that if all these over 18s aren't of good quality if the quality of those local comps have dropped off that it was never good for those boys to stop playing at 16.
The NCF local seniors comp is really poor now unfortunately. I would wager that the U18s NCF PYL team would win the local seniors competition comfortably.
If the 18s go back to seniors and are decoupled....
2025
Lakes 18s will play in NL1 after coming last in group A
Belswans 18s will play in NPL after coming last in group B
A good chance that another NL1 team will come up to NPL and Adamstown going down. Westy, Kahibah and Toronto 18s were all in group C.
Player movement will be crazy.
Blow-outs will return in 18s games.
Whichever team comes up from ZL1 to NL1 won't have an 18s, so NL1 will be an 8 team comp unless Wallsend get a team together.
Going forward, if more ZL1 teams come up and more current NL1 teams get relegated over the next few years (and that is certainly possible), then the NL1 18s comp will shrink further.
If a current NPL team gets relegated into the NL1, how many of the kids they have developed will stay?
What is driving this concept? Canteen money? Doesn't matter which match day the 18s attend, they'll still spend the same. Or is it the idea of gate takings from 18s parents? Yeah, that will swell the coffers.
Carving the 18s out of PYL is crazy.
Is there anyone that knows exactly what has been announced?Because I am very confused as there seems to be several different points of view on what is happening.If 18s have just been kept as part of youth premier league but playing on the same day as seniors surely that is the easiest way to do it?Im also very skeptical of it being about canteen money.
Like you, I was under the impression that it was going to be that way, but I've since been told by someone who was at the meeting, that the intent is decoupling.
Called opportunity. Developed players? They develop from many clubs. The sky wont fall in, never has.
Everyone will adapt to the changes cryfest or not. Maybe except NC. Sounds like theyll walk into senior clubs up there
Hi everyone. Just my yearly post wishing all your kids well if they are involved in finals.
And also to remind the parents that's it not about them. So please just shut up and let the kids play.
cheers,
plague.
I do know that the referee department was against u18 going to Youth when it happened. Possibly u18 going back to seniors is not just about canteens but logistics with referee appointments as well as catch up games. Easier to arrange 4 youth games mid week then 5. Also 5 games on Youth days must be a strain on club volunteers as it's a bloody long day.
fair call. plus a few of the 18s need beers after after the game. get back to seniors already
How bout you just shutup as well. We dont need capt dkhead obvious here either
Dear Jim please hurry up and accept my friend request on Facebook I want to see all those photos of the trophies.
cheers,
plague.
On the contrary, foz was a better place when the captain roamed the halls.
Hope him(?) and the good member are enjoying the sabbatical.
In summary:
More captain, less gym.
cheers,
plague.
Yep something I doubt Northern has even thought about and the clubs particuarly NPL clubs couldn't give two shits about having a healthy competition.
Probably very little so now Northern aren't encouraging player development into the senior ranksIf a current NPL team gets relegated into the NL1, how many of the kids they have developed will stay?
Both those reasons are exactly why the clubs are telling Northern it needs to change. Is Northern's aim to help clubs fleece parents or is it to build up the game in Northern NSW?What is driving this concept? Canteen money? Doesn't matter which match day the 18s attend, they'll still spend the same Or is it the idea of gate takings from 18s parents? Yeah, that will swell the coffers.
Northern have come up with some dumb ideas in the past and this is going to be the dumbest idea in their historyCarving the 18s out of PYL is crazy.
That should be the way it is just play as many as possible on senior match days, that way the clubs will still make some money, which is the number 1 reason they are giving as to why it needs to go back
Yeah we do need to sell these 16 year olds beers. Most of the U18s in the competition aren't turning 18 or 18, by that point most are playing actual seniors.
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