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    Bit cold at Myer Park tonight but I?ll have to go

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alton View Post
    Bit cold at Myer Park tonight but I?ll have to go
    Going off last night, it will be freezing!
    Kebapi snack packs and hot chips should help. Recommend layers on layers..
    It's football, not s***er!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    Going off last night, it will be freezing!
    Kebapi snack packs and hot chips should help. Recommend layers on layers..
    Cheers Lofty

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    Going off last night, it will be freezing!
    Kebapi snack packs and hot chips should help. Recommend layers on layers..
    Any other teams playing this week

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hacker View Post
    Any other teams playing this week
    Azzurri vs Swansea

    1st and Res at Jesmond tonight

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hacker View Post
    Any other teams playing this week
    Maybe suns third grade could play again. Didn't exactly have to use much energy last night.

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    Suns v Cardiff
    First grade 5-1
    It's football, not s***er!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MurderOnZidanesFloor View Post
    Has this been confirmed?
    Made public not that I know of - decision been made behind closed doors I?m told it has but they will pretend to consult with clubs etc but won?t listen anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    Suns v Cardiff
    First grade 5-1
    Another easy night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by straightred88 View Post
    Another easy night.
    If the Suns strengthen on their stocks for next year, they will be a top contender in NL1 no doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MurderOnZidanesFloor View Post
    If the Suns strengthen on their stocks for next year, they will be a top contender in NL1 no doubt.
    Didn't they get toweled up by a NL1 team?

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    No it was by an NPL team that being Maitland who would probably do the same to most of the NL 1 teams

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    Quote Originally Posted by straightred88 View Post
    Made public not that I know of - decision been made behind closed doors I?m told it has but they will pretend to consult with clubs etc but won?t listen anyway
    Big mistake if true. Majority of Zone League clubs who can successfully maintain 3 grades are going to be ripped apart and have so many loyal and long serving players and even youngsters lost to the club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MurderOnZidanesFloor View Post
    If the Suns strengthen on their stocks for next year, they will be a top contender in NL1 no doubt.
    Any truth they will lose a few players cause they have no interest in going up. Few of the senior players. I could be wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodders View Post
    Probably time to dry the tears and move into the 2000s. 3rd grade is a laugh.

    If you cant keep the kids moving through or have the older players running away crying because a grade is changed than than the club is already a joke.

    Theres junior grades now! There's all age now! Theres even o35s now.

    You might have to try moving forward out of the Jurassic time. I know Newcastle people struggle with this.
    The only joke around here is you. Clearly you have never had any real connection to a football club and it seems the concept of loyalty is lost on you. Not surprised at all that you are from outside of Newcastle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonka View Post
    No it was by an NPL team that being Maitland who would probably do the same to most of the NL 1 teams
    Ahh fair enough then! Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodders View Post
    Probably time to dry the tears and move into the 2000s. 3rd grade is a laugh.
    3rds is nothing but glorified all age, and no reason why these players still can't go and play all age for their club and remain loyal if needed. If these players don't keep playing for the club then clearly they aren't really loyal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taffy View Post
    3rds is nothing but glorified all age, and no reason why these players still can't go and play all age for their club and remain loyal if needed. If these players don't keep playing for the club then clearly they aren't really loyal
    No reason the zones couldn’t provide some flexibility and have one or more AA divisions for ZL clubs that allow for a fixture that can be played across the weekend. Currently AA teams nominate for either a Friday night or a Saturday comp.
    If clubs could nominate for a comp that has a floating day/time, it could alleviate some of the issues being raised.

    Another issue which hasn’t been raised to my knowledge is that in ZL, clubs can draw from AA teams at their club to cover from injuries etc. NL1 clubs can only draw from their youth set up to my knowledge, so if Suns didn’t run PYL teams in 2025 (working on the assumption they get promoted), they would either have to run a squad where players miss out on a game when all players are available, or potentially struggle to field a reserve grade side if/when injuries, suspensions or other unavailability occurs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodders View Post
    Probably time to dry the tears and move into the 2000s. 3rd grade is a laugh.

    If you cant keep the kids moving through or have the older players running away crying because a grade is changed than than the club is already a joke.

    Theres junior grades now! There's all age now! Theres even o35s now.

    You might have to try moving forward out of the Jurassic time. I know Newcastle people struggle with this.
    You've obviously never been part of a club that utilises the opportunity to create a longstanding culture of 50 players. That's why it's common to see the same clubs at the top end of the table, because they cherish it.

    There's a reason why the Zone Leagues are the most enjoyable competitions in our region. Players feel part of a club which has been taken away from the top 2 divisions being forced to be more professional. Take a look back to how strong clubs were in the old NBN league when you had a proper reserve grade and then under 18's side within one club. That's the last time we saw players regularly spending most of their careers at one club.

    How does it benefit football in our region if you strip back clubs again? You have 20 clubs (ZL1 and ZL2) who will have their squads trimmed from approx 50 players to 30-35 players. So that translates to 300-400 players removed from these comps. Where do they go? Some stop playing, some have a flutter in O35's, some may play AA if they can be bothered. At least within the Zone Leagues most clubs have proper structure around actually training, better facilities, being part of a senior competition with chances to progress through the grades and a chance to for 17/18 year olds to have their first taste of senior football for those not up to the top 2 divisions.
    We should be trying to focus a bit more on the community based football rather than what Football Australia is trying to do with NPL around the country. It doesn't suit everyone. Yes, third grade can take a toll on clubs when you have a bad injury ravaged season, we have all been there. But I would think anyone that supports the game of football in our region can see that the pros most certainly outweigh the cons.
    Stripping clubs back to two grades from NPL down to ZL3 isn't the answer.
    It's football, not s***er!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    Take a look back to how strong clubs were in the old NBN league when you had a proper reserve grade and then under 18's side within one club.
    All of the clubs bar one in NPL and NewFM do have a reserves and Under 18s already. I notice that the old NBN League structure you mentioned had no thirds though to create this strong league.

    Where do they go? Some stop playing, some have a flutter in O35's, some may play AA if they can be bothered.
    They'll play third grade but won't play all age A grade, which has good competition and play better than most thirds teams?

    At least within the Zone Leagues most clubs have proper structure around actually training, better facilities
    Not sure why clubs with zone teams couldn't provide this to an all age side.

    and a chance to for 17/18 year olds to have their first taste of senior football for those not up to the top 2 divisions.
    Forward thinking zone league clubs would enter teams into the U25 comps and use that as a stepping zone, even speak to the zones about allowing the U25 games to be played before reserves.

    But I would think anyone that supports the game of football in our region can see that the pros most certainly outweigh the cons.
    Except when you have teams going up and down and don't have third grade sides, will you also be happy with byes?


    Quote Originally Posted by northern_swan
    No reason the zones couldn?t provide some flexibility and have one or more AA divisions for ZL clubs that allow for a fixture that can be played across the weekend. Currently AA teams nominate for either a Friday night or a Saturday comp.
    If clubs could nominate for a comp that has a floating day/time, it could alleviate some of the issues being raised.
    It's a good point wonder if the question was ever asked during the working group meetings or consultations with zone clubs (which did happen).

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