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    2024 Zone League 3

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    Anyone in this comp or have we all bailed?
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    The name is obviously a pisstake if you can’t tell
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    the pisstake is on, who would call themselves after a pedo.....

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    Keen to know who?s in here

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    Looks like Lake Macquarie is coming back into the comp, seems they picked up an U18s team to sort their reserves. Merewether United also joining the comp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taffy View Post
    Looks like Lake Macquarie is coming back into the comp, seems they picked up an U18s team to sort their reserves. Merewether United also joining the comp
    Good to see some new clubs and some old clubs returning.

    Should be a good comp but can?t see anyone beating Croudace Bay

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    Quote Originally Posted by straightred88 View Post
    Good to see some new clubs and some old clubs returning.

    Should be a good comp but can?t see anyone beating Croudace Bay
    Agree with Croudace Bay comment, But I don't think they are going to be in ZL3. Why would a team that were minor premiers in the division above be dropped a division due to a change of clubs? Doesn't pass the pub test or common sense test.
    Add to that , they are short of teams in ZL2. So at a minimum they will stay there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anfield View Post
    Agree with Croudace Bay comment, But I don't think they are going to be in ZL3. Why would a team that were minor premiers in the division above be dropped a division due to a change of clubs? Doesn't pass the pub test or common sense test.
    Add to that , they are short of teams in ZL2. So at a minimum they will stay there.
    How can they be premiers when they have never played a game ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by straightred88 View Post
    How can they be premiers when they have never played a game ?
    Same outfit as Hamilton Azzurri ZL1 from last season. Just a change of clubs, I think it's known that they won't be in Zl3

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    Quote Originally Posted by anfield View Post
    Same outfit as Hamilton Azzurri ZL1 from last season. Just a change of clubs, I think it's known that they won't be in Zl3
    You are missing my point. Technically they have never taken the field as Croudace Bay and by NF rules, any new clubs must start at the bottom zone division.

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    It’s just a name change. I think the rule is more around a new club being formed from scratch and then wanting to slot in higher up the food chain. Surely there isn’t anyone who actually thinks they deserve to be demoted for changing their name? Surely?
    It's football, not s***er!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by straightred88 View Post
    You are missing my point. Technically they have never taken the field as Croudace Bay and by NF rules, any new clubs must start at the bottom zone division.
    I understand your point.
    Here are 2 points that mean they won't be in zone league 3.
    Point 1
    You are correct about the rule, BUT the rule has been broken before which has been discussed in the Zone league 1 thread. Lochinvar were in the bottom grade, their squad basically started a new club South Maitland. They didn't go back to Zone league 3. That is exactly the same scenario that has happened at Croudace Bay.

    I will add, that Wallsend Northern League 1 nearly didn't enter next year. If that whole squad went to South Wallsend, Do you think they would be made to start in Zone League 3. Considering there is promotion and relegation among the 5 divisions? I think not.

    Point 2
    Zone League 2 apparently was and still is short of clubs to make 12 teams.
    Apparently Croudace Bay, Don't want to play in Zone league 3. Wouldn't it make sense to use them when it appears the other Zone league 3 clubs want to stay in that division?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    It?s just a name change. I think the rule is more around a new club being formed from scratch and then wanting to slot in higher up the food chain. Surely there isn?t anyone who actually thinks they deserve to be demoted for changing their name? Surely?

    It is a new club from scratch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anfield View Post
    I understand your point.
    Here are 2 points that mean they won't be in zone league 3.
    Point 1
    You are correct about the rule, BUT the rule has been broken before which has been discussed in the Zone league 1 thread. Lochinvar were in the bottom grade, their squad basically started a new club South Maitland. They didn't go back to Zone league 3. That is exactly the same scenario that has happened at Croudace Bay.

    I will add, that Wallsend Northern League 1 nearly didn't enter next year. If that whole squad went to South Wallsend, Do you think they would be made to start in Zone League 3. Considering there is promotion and relegation among the 5 divisions? I think not.

    Point 2
    Zone League 2 apparently was and still is short of clubs to make 12 teams.
    Apparently Croudace Bay, Don't want to play in Zone league 3. Wouldn't it make sense to use them when it appears the other Zone league 3 clubs want to stay in that division?
    What they want Doesn?t matter. Rule is there and will set a precedent for future clubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by straightred88 View Post
    What they want Doesn?t matter. Rule is there and will set a precedent for future clubs.
    But that's my point. The rule had been broken before with South Maitland. So the precedent has already been made.

    Sounds like some people don't want Croudace Bay up.

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    I think the rule would hold more weight in this instance if it wasn?t for the fact that they want to run 3 divisions with the top 2 divisions having a squad of 3 grades. The associations know the crabs have 3 grades and unless more ZL3 teams put their hands up saying they?re coming in with an extra grade, the association needs to fill the leagues. Don?t want a repeat of last year with clubs like Wallsend forfeiting 3rd grade all but what, 4 rounds of the season?

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    Confirmed.

    League One
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    3 Grades
    1 Cardiff City FC
    2 Dudley Redhead USSC
    3 Hamilton Azzurri FC
    4 Kotara South FC
    5 Mayfield United Senior FC
    6 Minmi Wanderers FC
    7 Newcastle Olympic FC
    8 Newcastle Suns FC
    9 Newcastle University FC
    10 Swansea FC
    11 Warners Bay FC
    12 Westlakes Wildcats FC

    League Two
    (Formally League One)
    3 Grades
    1 Bolwarra Lorn JSC
    2 Cooks Hill UFC
    3 Croudace Bay FC
    4 Mayfield United JSFC
    5 Merewether Advance SFC
    6 New Lambton FC
    7 Newcastle Croatia FC
    8 North United Wolves FC
    9 South Maitland FC
    10 Stockton Sharks FC
    11 Southern United FC
    12 Wallsend FC

    League Three
    (Formally League Two)
    2 Grades
    1 Barnsley USC
    2 Bellbird FC
    3 Charlestown FC
    4 Garden Suburb FC
    5 Greta Branxton FC
    6 Kurri Kurri FC
    7 Lake Macquarie FC
    8 Lambton Jaffas JFC
    9 Medowie FC
    10 Merewether United FC
    11 Nelson Bay FC
    12 Southern Lakes FC
    It's football, not s***er!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    Confirmed.

    League One
    (Formally Premier League)
    3 Grades
    1 Cardiff City FC
    2 Dudley Redhead USSC
    3 Hamilton Azzurri FC
    4 Kotara South FC
    5 Mayfield United Senior FC
    6 Minmi Wanderers FC
    7 Newcastle Olympic FC
    8 Newcastle Suns FC
    9 Newcastle University FC
    10 Swansea FC
    11 Warners Bay FC
    12 Westlakes Wildcats FC

    League Two
    (Formally League One)
    3 Grades
    1 Bolwarra Lorn JSC
    2 Cooks Hill UFC
    3 Croudace Bay FC
    4 Mayfield United JSFC
    5 Merewether Advance SFC
    6 New Lambton FC
    7 Newcastle Croatia FC
    8 North United Wolves FC
    9 South Maitland FC
    10 Stockton Sharks FC
    11 Southern United FC
    12 Wallsend FC

    League Three
    (Formally League Two)
    2 Grades
    1 Barnsley USC
    2 Bellbird FC
    3 Charlestown FC
    4 Garden Suburb FC
    5 Greta Branxton FC
    6 Kurri Kurri FC
    7 Lake Macquarie FC
    8 Lambton Jaffas JFC
    9 Medowie FC
    10 Merewether United FC
    11 Nelson Bay FC
    12 Southern Lakes FC
    Will be an interesting comp, few new clubs and some returning. Hard to pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by straightred88 View Post
    What they want Doesn?t matter. Rule is there and will set a precedent for future clubs.
    It appears Croudace Bay are in Zone league 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by straightred88 View Post
    What they want Doesn?t matter. Rule is there and will set a precedent for future clubs.
    The rule is that the committee can over rule any rule. Dry the tears already. So the rules arent broken. The committee can veto the "usual" promo relo status according to their wants. Is this fair? maybe not imo.
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    The name is obviously a pisstake if you can’t tell
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    the pisstake is on, who would call themselves after a pedo.....

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    Movements
    Southern United 1st, Cooks Hill 7th, up to ZL2
    Cardiff City ZL3 gone. Any to G Suburb(s)?

    Mayfield JSC dodged relegation from ZL2, Cardiff City avoided relegation from ZL1

    No change to the ZL1

    Good to see nearly all clubs remain.

    Lake Mac, Southern Lakes, Garden S, Charlestown return to ZL2

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