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    The lighting is so poor at some of the grounds, not sure how practical it is to play night games especially with some teams having quite "dark" kit.

    Watching Charlestown play at Allan Davis at night is almost impossible...I don't know how the kids manage to see themselves out there when they have to play a game there

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    Quote Originally Posted by WOW2.0 View Post
    The lighting is so poor at some of the grounds, not sure how practical it is to play night games especially with some teams having quite "dark" kit.

    Watching Charlestown play at Allan Davis at night is almost impossible...I don't know how the kids manage to see themselves out there when they have to play a game there
    Aren't all playing grounds (for competition games not friendlies) at the same grounds as their 1st grade plays? Don't they have to meet lighting requirements to be in the NPL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WOW2.0 View Post
    The lighting is so poor at some of the grounds, not sure how practical it is to play night games especially with some teams having quite "dark" kit.

    Watching Charlestown play at Allan Davis at night is almost impossible...I don't know how the kids manage to see themselves out there when they have to play a game there
    It?s kids football, not that big of a deal, I?m sure it won?t bother the kids, let it be mum & dad

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForeverRed View Post
    It?s kids football, not that big of a deal, I?m sure it won?t bother the kids, let it be mum & dad
    As youth football now has pro/rel it is more important now than little disadvantages were previously...their eye sight might be better than mine though

    It's their player welfare though too TBH

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taffy View Post
    Aren't all playing grounds (for competition games not friendlies) at the same grounds as their 1st grade plays? Don't they have to meet lighting requirements to be in the NPL?
    I can't speak for every club, but they do hold competition games at both Allen Davis and Lisle Carr for the youth teams

    I don't know of any specific lighting requirements for NPL...but, as a sometimes spectator it is hard to follow the game there at night...and not sure it would be any easier for the kids trying to spot a team mate in a dark colour (even the Azzurri blue is hard to pick out)

    Just my opinion of course

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    Quote Originally Posted by WOW2.0 View Post
    I can't speak for every club, but they do hold competition games at both Allen Davis and Lisle Carr for the youth teams

    I don't know of any specific lighting requirements for NPL...but, as a sometimes spectator it is hard to follow the game there at night...and not sure it would be any easier for the kids trying to spot a team mate in a dark colour (even the Azzurri blue is hard to pick out)

    Just my opinion of course
    Don?t stress too much just ask all the parents that are recording their kids on their mobile phones to turn the light on. Imagine being that obsessed with social media that you have to record all your child?s games on your phones so you can post it online and chase some likes. Relax people and enjoy the game and stop putting unnecessary pressure on the poor kid who will only probably quit the game by under 18s because daddy or mummy tried to make him an internet sensation at age 12.
    Don?t most clubs have those green cameras now anyway recording? Enjoy the games whilst they are young and get off your bloody phones, I see it too often parents trying to catch a move or goal so they quickly upload it.
    But yeah use the lights on phone if you need better lighting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamtime Yowie View Post
    Don?t stress too much just ask all the parents that are recording their kids on their mobile phones to turn the light on. Imagine being that obsessed with social media that you have to record all your child?s games on your phones so you can post it online and chase some likes. Relax people and enjoy the game and stop putting unnecessary pressure on the poor kid who will only probably quit the game by under 18s because daddy or mummy tried to make him an internet sensation at age 12.
    Don?t most clubs have those green cameras now anyway recording? Enjoy the games whilst they are young and get off your bloody phones, I see it too often parents trying to catch a move or goal so they quickly upload it.
    But yeah use the lights on phone if you need better lighting
    way to take the conversation completely out of context. Parents pay a lot of money for their kids to play - playing at night with decent lights isn't a big ask.

    Hopefully they get some night games on - it's a decent way to avoid the heat that's for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamtime Yowie View Post
    Don?t stress too much just ask all the parents that are recording their kids on their mobile phones to turn the light on. Imagine being that obsessed with social media that you have to record all your child?s games on your phones so you can post it online and chase some likes. Relax people and enjoy the game and stop putting unnecessary pressure on the poor kid who will only probably quit the game by under 18s because daddy or mummy tried to make him an internet sensation at age 12.
    Don?t most clubs have those green cameras now anyway recording? Enjoy the games whilst they are young and get off your bloody phones, I see it too often parents trying to catch a move or goal so they quickly upload it.
    But yeah use the lights on phone if you need better lighting
    Lol
    I'm not talking about for camera's obviously :P

    We must be out of the trend, my son doesn't have a social media platform for his football...maybe that's the true key to success though :P

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    The big issue with lighting for clubs is that it is something’s hat the club must have funding to have bulbs changed or update lights to newer systems. The council owns the asset but it on the club to fix. Cost of that is quite high.

    In regards to Allen Davis Field, the ovals board wants to fix it he lighting but at $250-$500 a fitting it is very expensive over 6 towers. The ovals board also needs to look at other factors like drainag, surface remediation etc. the only way to fix is via a grant and unfortunately they are not always successful in gaining.

    Charlestown only play Youth games at ADO if Lisle Carr is too wet and games need to be played. It has some of the best drainage around and can handle a small amount of extra rain. From memory we have only played 3 night games there last season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grubby-081 View Post
    The big issue with lighting for clubs is that it is something’s hat the club must have funding to have bulbs changed or update lights to newer systems. The council owns the asset but it on the club to fix. Cost of that is quite high.

    In regards to Allen Davis Field, the ovals board wants to fix it he lighting but at $250-$500 a fitting it is very expensive over 6 towers. The ovals board also needs to look at other factors like drainag, surface remediation etc. the only way to fix is via a grant and unfortunately they are not always successful in gaining.

    Charlestown only play Youth games at ADO if Lisle Carr is too wet and games need to be played. It has some of the best drainage around and can handle a small amount of extra rain. From memory we have only played 3 night games there last season.
    The ground is dirt by mid season which is a bigger issue re player injury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KITZ View Post
    The ground is dirt by mid season which is a bigger issue re player injury.
    Not sure which ground your referring to there. ADO looks bare but has decent grass coverage. The grass just turns brown.

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    Im sure whatever facilities the kids get to play on they will do just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sapdad View Post
    Im sure whatever facilities the kids get to play on they will do just fine.
    Should ask the kids (and young people) what they think. It doesn't happen near enough in football, assumptions are always made by the adults around and most of the young players are pretty smart footballers and know what's important to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hacker View Post
    I have been told that Dudley will be allowed a few players who are registered to conference league that can be drawn to reserve grade in NL1 if short. This is only for 1 year and only because the federation refused them an u18 next year. I?m guessing they will nominate the player at the start of the year
    Are Dudley looking at putting in PYL for 2026? Assuming they don't get relegated

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    Quote Originally Posted by KITZ View Post
    Should ask the kids (and young people) what they think. It doesn't happen near enough in football, assumptions are always made by the adults around and most of the young players are pretty smart footballers and know what's important to them.
    Not going to get into a pissing comp but Ive been involved as a parent and coach since the first year of JDL back in the day.Ive seen plenty of kids and any Newcastle footballer thinking that the lights make more than 1% difference in their football is delusional.We have really good facilities in this city and of course some grounds could be better but thinking it makes a difference at this level is a bit much.If a kid is playing in Div C on a Div C pitch then maybe hes just a Div C player.Sticking them on Jack Mac or Darling Street itsnt going to turn them into Messi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taffy View Post
    Are Dudley looking at putting in PYL for 2026? Assuming they don't get relegated
    The wheels would have to fall off to be relegated I would say. If they ever want to play for more than 5th place they will need to add them. The team that is relegated do they lose PYL or they would add another club

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hacker View Post
    The team that is relegated do they lose PYL or they would add another club
    The whole reason for decoupling is so they don't lose them and the teams continue. It's a similar reason why U18s must stay in PYL, unless you make all zone league teams have an U18s as well.

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    I went to ADO last night for a kick...greenest I've ever seen it...but it's also now been marked up for Rugby Union (which was a surprise)

    The opposite field (can never remember its name) has always been for Rugby Union and is always green, all year long...has ADO been given to the Rugby players?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WOW2.0 View Post
    I went to ADO last night for a kick...greenest I've ever seen it...but it's also now been marked up for Rugby Union (which was a surprise)

    The opposite field (can never remember its name) has always been for Rugby Union and is always green, all year long...has ADO been given to the Rugby players?
    No ADO hasn?t been allocated to rugby. The
    Markings that you see are for the summer Oztag comp that runs over the 4 fields through summer.

    All 4 fields will be closed in the next week for January while remediation works are carried out over the complex.

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    Northern has posted JDL fees on their website.
    Amazing.
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