Because that would be a great idea and we are void of those at the top.Originally Posted by MFKS
Because that would be a great idea and we are void of those at the top.
I think that we should getting managers to manage from Asian Cup to Asian Cup with a new one that comes in after each Asian Cup. Then the only bonus they get is for making the round of 16 at the WC and for winning the Asian Cup. It means they have ~3 years to gel a team together before the first tournament and they might actually need to blood youth/new players for the future.
Just my 2c
Last edited by NewcastleForLife; 18-10-2012 at 10:03 AM.
^ I like
I'm hoping the FFA has some sense to use the east asian championship for forcing Holger to use younger players / HAL players.
This is the tournament that traditionally Japan, SK & china use to blood the youth / fringe that play in their domestic league, hopefully Australia does the same and qualifies instead of taking the tempting easy money option of using the older players yet again.
I believe that luck may be on our sides as I think the middle east leagues will all be in season and as they are on non fifa dates the Holgers hand will be pushed.
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football...829-25149.html
Why on earth would we do the sensible option? Would not be surprised to see Moore and Tiatto dragged out of retirement because they are a higher standard than A-League and youth.
FFA? More like FFS.
Double F A*
Bang on the money this idea. Our aim for our NT should be to build for our Confederation title first and WCQ second. At present it is the other way round. The FFA have factored so much of Footballs future on a WCQ campaign success it would be a disaster to not qualify.
Under Hiddink his objective was obviously to qualify us and then once achieved out on a good performance which we did and probably exceeded expectation. Arnold took over for the next year or so and held the fort at the Asian Cup 2007 and then Verbeek came in.
Pim's objective was to qualify us for the World Cup and the bloke done that. The style of play was poor and unimaginative and the only player he brought through for us was Holman. All Pim done was work on the FFA's target of WCQ and he achieved that. As a result building any type of legacy or rejuvenation and squad development took a back seat as Pim targeted the FFA's objective and also got his KPI bonuses for achieving targets. Once we got to Sth Africa the lack of rebuilding and methods we used to get to WC came back to bite us fair on the arse and we were highly disappointing. Pim in the meantime ****s off to Morocco with a nice big cheque from the FFA for delivering what he was requested to do
Pim moves on and in comes Holger once again the same target laid down by the FFA World Cup Qualification. Holger looks at squad and backs he can make to Brasil with the same squad. Campaign starts off well with good results in friendlies and a near miss at Winning the Asian Cup in 2011. As the WCQ campaign kicks off we start to show signs of our struggle with disappointing efforts V Thailand a loss in Oman but still come through the group. Moving onto the next round we start to lose some friendlies after playing poorly and then can only manage a Draw in Oman a draw against a quality opponent in Japan at home and then we lose in Jordan and the whole plan is coming into question. Then we turn up in Doha and somehow lose a goal with 20 mins to go and the campaign is almost ****ed. Somehow we get out of jail and with 3 home games to come we are sitting in 2nd spot and should shit it in. When we get to Brazil we will more than likely struggle. Once again Holger will disappear into the sunset with a nice big bonus from the FFA and we will be left with the memory of a shitful WC campaign
All of this is down to the FFA WCQ is a necessity plan. If our NT Manager wasn't so focused in getting us to a WC we would see a different Socceroos team than we currently have. If the NT Manager's contract wasn't geared so much towards significant pay outs in bonuses for WCQ we would see a different Socceroos team. If we had spent the last 2 years after Sth Africa rebuilding we more than likely would still be qualifying with a younger side and also in a position where when we get to Brazil maybe in a position to spring a surprise to not only ourselves but the world.
The current set up just causes the NT to refuse to take any risks to grow and develop. It is a disgrace that we can still most likely qualify for 2014 using the old timers from the 2006 campaign. Name me another country who will be in qualifying for the 2014 WC would be using the bulk of their 2006 squad?? The change that needs to occur needs to start at the top with the FFA
N1 Pico. Didn't know we'd entered this tournament. Cheers
I won't be too happy if with Goodwin in good form and the possibility of losing griffiths as well it could derail our HAL season by ripping out our in form players, if on the other hand they turn a blind eye to newy we could be playing some understrength teams, must be anges strategy for the start of the year...
People need to remember that the FFA's finances are, well 100%, linked to WCQ and the revenue it brings. The fact that the FFA lose money 3 out of 4 years of the WC cycle shows how reliant on that qualification they are for staying afloat. Cut the financial dependance by getting increased revenue from other sources (Asian Cup, East Asia Champs, TV Rights or even Confed Cup) will need to happen before the WCQ stance is changed.
It also should be pointed out that we need to qualify to reap the financial rewards from the East Asian Champs, which if the FFA is desperate enough, they could just tell Holger the same thing as the WCQ, win at all costs.
don't you people read my posts?
http://www.newcastlefootball.net/for...-Championships
it's about six down in line in this forum, been there for months
That is the biggest problem facing the game in this country at present the FFA. Sure they may have built the game up in the last 8 or so years but everything is tied to the WCQ campaign and the Socceroos being successful. What happens when they ain't??
This whole all the eggs in one basket strategy works to a point but the FFA despite being run by a bloke who is a billionaire don't seem to understand the philosophy of diversifying risk. That is why we also see the farcical situation in the HAL where teams are being propped up by one owner and when they run into difficulty financially the shit hits the fan. Very little is being done by the FFA to spread the club ownership models to a multiple number of stakeholders to ease the burden when things hit the fan.
In my opinion we should be looking at 4-6 owners per franchise. Not the 1 millionaire. Hopefully when the FFA rids themselves of WSW they will actually set this club up right with a dependable and reliable model of ownership that can then be pushed through as the right way to go for the rest of the HAL Clubs
16th November 2005. 7 years ago today.
Epic night.
fantastic night.
marching down the middle of george st at 3am with a police escort. great stuff.
Lads, heading to Melbourne for the Jordan game, need some help with seating at Docklands.
What do you think is best at that stadium (for football) front of top section, corner of middle section, or corner of lower bowl.
Any feedback much appreciated.
Cheers.
go up a tier for sure, the bottom is pretty rubbish imo
what seating are they having for the game?
I went to one Socceroos game that had the ends shifted in
I've sat front of top section before and it was pretty damn good - you're not as far away as you would be at Homebush
From the ticketmaster map it looks like the bottom bays along side of pitch have been brought in. there are seats available in the middle tier just off the half way line (above where those moved in bays are). thinking of hitting those, have been told the whole bottom area is pretty bad viewing wise.
have seen AFL from middle of top tier and had a good view just wasnt sure how much further in a football pitch would be.
cheers for the feedback.
lololol
LETS GO YOU ROOOOOOOOOOOOOS!
2 weeks!
Holger better make some good selections tomorrow.
Rogic and Oar at very least!
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